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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    I don't have to explain why I need 2 CZ shadows for IPSC. No one asks me how I got got so good, so fast at shooting ( he's not married). I don't have to blame a wife for lack of time, freedom and self esteem . We're eagles, taught to be ducks that praise the virtues of being a shrimp. The Tibetans call this period of history ( The dregs of Time)
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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Quite simply, being answerable to myself.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    The reasons i enjoy being a bachelor are the reasons i have enjoyed being MGTOW for most of my life and that is independence and freedom to do what i want when i want it without worrying or upsetting a partner along with not being screwed over financially and/or emotionally (although the not getting screwed over came later).

    When i did that test my result was ESTP rather than IPSC and while a test like that cannot paint a full picture it was reasonably accurate.

    Even from the age of 16 i always went on holiday or on breaks my own because going with another person meant one of three situations coming up regularly while on holiday:

    1. Compromising doing what i wanted to do and doing their stuff instead.
    2. Them compromising doing what they wanted to do and doing my stuff instead.
    3. Both going off separately doing what we each wanted to do (unless we both want to do the same thing at the same point in time).

    As i was taking a break number 1 is out of the question, as i try not to be a hypocrite as much as possible i am not comfortable with number 2 (plus it opens the door to "i did this so you now owe me" type situations). So that leaves number 3 being the only option i would be comfortable with and as a result going alone and avoiding a discussion every time a decision to do something is made is a far simpler option.

    I have been on many weekends away with the guys to Amsterdam and for a few years i joined a group every year for a long weekend to watch a game of the 5 nations (6 nations now as Italy are in it but 5 back then) in one of the teams capital cities (England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales and France) and as we had guys in the group of each nationality apart from a Frenchman putting a guy with the local accent on point for getting into pubs and clubs helped a lot, it was only a 3 day 2 nights thing involving lots of beer and watching a game of Rugby on the Saturday so such trips were hardly a buffet of choices and i did enjoy it.

    However my attitude towards longer vacations also became part of my general lifestyle choices and presto 25 or so years later (after admittedly a few bumps in the road) i am watching you-tube and click on a vid by a guy called Sandman going on about something called MGTOW and here we are.
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    -Robert A. Heinlein.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    No schedule to anyone except my self, can better concentrate on our customers and get the job done, then fit in my training / weightlifting / motocross / car hobby / home maintenance / mountain biking / quiet reading / study etc. Boys life at 51 YO. A family man I am not.
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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    I enjoy lots off things being single. I enjoy sleeping alone. After I have sex I would prefer to sleep alone. Im in big fella at over 6' and sleep in the middle off the bed. I just enjoy not having to listen to someone's bullshit when I come home.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Why's this in opposing views?

    The number one thing I enjoy is the lack of arbitrary stress. If I feel stressed, I know there's a practical step I can take to fix it. It's not an ambiguous game of drama like in an LTR. Second thing I enjoy is no pressure to be entertaining and fill silence.
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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    Why's this in opposing views?

    The number one thing I enjoy is the lack of arbitrary stress. If I feel stressed, I know there's a practical step I can take to fix it. It's not an ambiguous game of drama like in an LTR. Second thing I enjoy is no pressure to be entertaining and fill silence.
    Not needing to deal with a person who needs attention and verification so much they treat the most petty occurrences like a end of the world event does have a certain attraction.

    I could not function anywhere near as effectively at work or in any other aspect of my life if i had to deal with the kind of petty crap guys in LTR's have to deal with on a daily basis and know i would not have my business because the time and effort i had to put into it as well as the things i went through would not have been possible had i needed to continually deal with a emotional time bomb.
    "Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything ó you canít conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him."

    -Robert A. Heinlein.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Quote Originally Posted by ian2211 View Post
    Not needing to deal with a person who needs attention and verification so much they treat the most petty occurrences like a end of the world event does have a certain attraction.

    I could not function anywhere near as effectively at work or in any other aspect of my life if i had to deal with the kind of petty crap guys in LTR's have to deal with on a daily basis and know i would not have my business because the time and effort i had to put into it as well as the things i went through would not have been possible had i needed to continually deal with a emotional time bomb.
    This. It directly impairs a man's highest functioning. If you're on the grind at work or on a personal project, there's nothing helpful about having unnecessary drama in the back of your head. Women are experts at pinpointing potential points of psychological weakness in a man, so even if you're confident in your abilities, there's still that subtle nagging that can't quite go away. Women will simply never be able to comprehend or understand "the grind".

    I've mentioned this in a post before, but my LTR was always starting fights about my passion for music. She was obsessed with the fact that it seemed like I cared more about it than her. [Spoiler alert: I did]. They are just incapable of appreciating the dedication. It makes them jealous.
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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    Why's this in opposing views?
    It was started by Tarnished, who can't post anywhere but in Opposing Views.
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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Stress, the lack of.

    More than anything else, my dearly departed wife stressed me out;

    * Spending more money than we had.

    * Her crazy unpredictable BPD behavior early on.

    * Poor motherhood skills. No, horrible.

    * Unrealistic expectations (her mother had the same illusions of grandeur on a beer budget).

    * Over packing and under planning trips, over blown holidays, etc.

    * Hypochondria

    * Over-all embarrassment from being seen in public with her.

    I am lucky. I would never claim PTSD from her or any number of crazy shit things I have been involved with. I have a pretty good knack for putting all this shit behind me in little Tupperware containers in the closet. MGTOW red pills have been a big help with this. I now understand this female shit and can forgive myself.

    Am I guilt free? No, not completely, but I sure am better off than I was thanks to red pill therapy.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    Why's this in opposing views?
    Because while I agree with 99% of what is spoken of here, I was born with a vagina instead of a penis. Thus, I can only post or comment in the Opposing Views section, though my views are anything but opposing.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Quote Originally Posted by toolate View Post
    I now understand this female shit and can forgive myself.

    Am I guilt free? No, not completely, but I sure am better off than I was thanks to red pill therapy.
    What would you have to forgive yourself for, man? Swallowing the BS of chivalry and gynocentrism? Putting up with the things you mentioned? Not taking the red pill sooner?

    That's hardly something you should have to forgive yourself for. The brainwashing our society puts men and women through...It is difficult for most to break free from, unless you're already an out-of-the-box type of observer/thinker. Hopefully you aren't too hard on yourself, or feel guilty for anything you weren't in control of. What matters is that you got out and are free now.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Guy's with room temperature IQ's do a lot of damage, but don't even see it, let alone feel guilty. Them with a few more smart's however, know nobody's always right, and even the best of us are going to do some unintentional harm somewhere. This lead's to wondering if you could of done better, and sometimes feeling guilty, even if there's not much you could of done.

    Government's like this, because it help's keep you in line, and as for religion, they've used it forever as an excuse to stick their hand in your pocket. One of the bigger reason's I don't care much for either one.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Bachelor-chow.jpg

    Bump. Just found out I can get this in bumper sticker form! But seriously I love even the stereotypical, cartoonish bachelor shit. I can lounge around in whatever clothes I want, get inappropriately drunk and/or stoned, watch "offensive" TV shows and dumb but amazing action movies, excessively scratch my balls, eat a big ol sandwich without a plate and let the crumbs wash all over me, etc. Having a wife around means you can never truly relax. EVER. She's always got some "project" she has to obsess over - planning a social event, trying to rearrange your living space, trying to plan and organize YOUR ENTIRE LIFE down to every single detail. It's a bummer when I'm at my parents house watching my dad deal with this phenomenon. More than half of the times my mom speaks, it starts with "we need to..."
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    I can save my money and live a very simple life, even when making "very good" money.

    My last apartment didn't even have a couch until I bummed one off a neighbor moving out. For months all I heard was bitching from women about how barren the place was. How there was no "entertainment" for them. Not even a TV or couch, the madness! They did not enjoy sitting on my "cheap" fold-out metal chairs. I had my computers and desks set up for my work/play area, my bed, clothes in the closet, kitchen stuff for cooking, shower stuff for grooming, and that was it. Women can't stand letting space go empty.

    Having a big "fuck you money" stash is way more important than any flashy or unnecessary junk, imo.

    I always enjoy shaming women who want something material from me with, "If I have to pay for sex, I'm hiring a professional." Gold from Tom Leykis.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Exclusive control over every aspect of my life, and not having to cater to, answer to, or compensate for that irrational exotic pet otherwise known as a live-in female. They say don't stick your d1ck in crazy. Trouble is, I have yet to meet a sane woman. It's a catch 22.
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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOW_player View Post
    My last apartment didn't even have a couch until I bummed one off a neighbor moving out. For months all I heard was bitching from women about how barren the place was. How there was no "entertainment" for them. Not even a TV or couch, the madness! They did not enjoy sitting on my "cheap" fold-out metal chairs. I had my computers and desks set up for my work/play area, my bed, clothes in the closet, kitchen stuff for cooking, shower stuff for grooming, and that was it. Women can't stand letting space go empty.
    Ha! They sound like my mother and sisters. When I moved into my new place 5 years ago, I had the same minimalist spaces as you did. Small cooking appliances for the kitchen. Toothbrush/paste, comb, shampoo/soap and deodorant in the bathroom. Bed, 1 set of drawers, 1 bookcase, and birdcage in bedroom. Old TV and gaming systems, a table I bought for $10 at a yard sale, and 2 foldout chairs in the living room.

    Lived quite happily like this for nearly 2 years before my mother "snapped" during a visit with my sisters and told me I could "no longer live like a bum". That December, she bought me a new TV, a couch, a coffee table, end tables, and a new bedroom set, new lamps. Tried to talk her out of it because that was a crapton of money she should have put into her own house or business instead...but she wouldn't listen. It was as though by not having expensive furniture, I was betraying the family or something.

    Didn't know this type of thought was so widespread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOW_player
    Women can't stand letting space go empty.
    = bigger and bigger houses filled with more and more useless crap

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Having a big "fuck you money" stash is way more important than any flashy or unnecessary junk, imo.
    Yep. In a savings ad I saw from decades ago, they said "the man with savings can walk tall".

    Your description is catchier.
    I work in financial planning. I am interested in metal (all kinds), miniature painting and PC gaming. I live in Scotland.

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    Re: What do you enjoy most about being a bachelor?

    Next Sunday (May 24) will be a good day for a bachelor. Monaco GP, the Indy 500, and the Coca-Cola 600. Auto racing from five in the morning till eight at night.


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