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    Re: With the courtesy of the PUA community "An open letter to the men of MGTOW"

    I have noticed that text game is increasingly popular among PUA teachers and websites lately. My personal opinion is more of the old school approach meaning texting should be to sort out logistics for a date for example. Because gaming a woman over text is like trying to herd a dozen cats into a bath tub. Women's hamster has an attention span of a three year old. Not happening.

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    Re: With the courtesy of the PUA community "An open letter to the men of MGTOW"

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    I have noticed that text game is increasingly popular among PUA teachers and websites lately. My personal opinion is more of the old school approach meaning texting should be to sort out logistics for a date for example. Because gaming a woman over text is like trying to herd a dozen cats into a bath tub. Women's hamster has an attention span of a three year old. Not happening.
    This is what I thought too... (in my last attempt dating a couple years ago). Arrange for meetings in bars, etc.

    Businesses (brick and mortar ones anyways) used to prioritize in-store customers over phone customers. Today, it's a much different world. I met some women in bars, social houses, etc. but they are not in the moment. They are in the NEXT fucking moment, thumbs-a-flailing. It's like a spoiled child at Christmas with 100 new toys spending 10 seconds with each new toy then sitting there crying because she's bored. Conversely, a child from a poor family with one or two toys, who thought they were going to get nothing, is over-joyed. This is why when you give an inherently narcissistic creature (a female who is the "selector") too much choice they completely lose their minds. Hundreds of men approaching them on dating sites, hundreds of men texting them... Sorting through all that mail is like a full time job.

    So, what I am trying to say is that with women - especially the younger ones - you need to make connections within her virtual electronic social world. You need to be on her list of choices, her list of available avatars. When you're not plugged in, she can't rate you. Sort you. Rank you. Block you. Ghost you. Or let you pay for dinner because her #1 choice ghosted on HER.

    It's a fucking electronic zoo out there. Women whine that men don't plan dates anymore, and don't put any effort into making the date stimulating and fun. Why the hell should he? All she needs is a text from a "higher ranked avatar" and suddenly her cat has some rare illness and needs emergency medical care. Or, she doesn't even have the courtesy to make up a lame excuse and just ghosts. Men - idiot fool blue pill men - accept this behavior as part of the mating game and this VALIDATES it for females. It's okay for them to behave this way because they can get away with it. If you don't supervise your kids and they eat a box full of cookies before each meal, and you don't police the cookies, they will continue to eat the goddamned cookies and ruin their appetites. (And then they're hungry before bedtime!) Every other day it's "Don't eat that now. We're eating supper in 20 minutes. You can eat that after supper." (Okay, dad.)

    I for one do not consider any living women to be that above me to treat me with that much disrespect. The irony is they treat men like disposable shit but still expect chivalry, romance, and "planned dates".... IF she decides to show up, of course.

    Feminism + smartphone + female narcissism = dating is dead

    Sorry ladies, not my problem to fix. Nor is it the problem for any man with a brain in his head and control over his sexual impulses.

    Guys: you need to keep showing up in her "media feeds" in positive ways (ways she likes). You also have to quickly figure out the purpose she has for you. (Sex friend, orbiter, text entertainer, chauffeur, back up date #1, Backup date #2, Backup Date #3)

    When it comes to making their plans, women are shameless. Whatever feels the best wins. Other people's feelings be damned.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: With the courtesy of the PUA community "An open letter to the men of MGTOW"

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    This is what I thought too... (in my last attempt dating a couple years ago). Arrange for meetings in bars, etc.

    Businesses (brick and mortar ones anyways) used to prioritize in-store customers over phone customers. Today, it's a much different world. I met some women in bars, social houses, etc. but they are not in the moment. They are in the NEXT fucking moment, thumbs-a-flailing. It's like a spoiled child at Christmas with 100 new toys spending 10 seconds with each new toy then sitting there crying because she's bored. Conversely, a child from a poor family with one or two toys, who thought they were going to get nothing, is over-joyed. This is why when you give an inherently narcissistic creature (a female who is the "selector") too much choice they completely lose their minds. Hundreds of men approaching them on dating sites, hundreds of men texting them... Sorting through all that mail is like a full time job.

    So, what I am trying to say is that with women - especially the younger ones - you need to make connections within her virtual electronic social world. You need to be on her list of choices, her list of available avatars. When you're not plugged in, she can't rate you. Sort you. Rank you. Block you. Ghost you. Or let you pay for dinner because her #1 choice ghosted on HER.

    It's a fucking electronic zoo out there. Women whine that men don't plan dates anymore, and don't put any effort into making the date stimulating and fun. Why the hell should he? All she needs is a text from a "higher ranked avatar" and suddenly her cat has some rare illness and needs emergency medical care. Or, she doesn't even have the courtesy to make up a lame excuse and just ghosts. Men - idiot fool blue pill men - accept this behavior as part of the mating game and this VALIDATES it for females. It's okay for them to behave this way because they can get away with it. If you don't supervise your kids and they eat a box full of cookies before each meal, and you don't police the cookies, they will continue to eat the goddamned cookies and ruin their appetites. (And then they're hungry before bedtime!) Every other day it's "Don't eat that now. We're eating supper in 20 minutes. You can eat that after supper." (Okay, dad.)

    I for one do not consider any living women to be that above me to treat me with that much disrespect. The irony is they treat men like disposable shit but still expect chivalry, romance, and "planned dates".... IF she decides to show up, of course.

    Feminism + smartphone + female narcissism = dating is dead

    Sorry ladies, not my problem to fix. Nor is it the problem for any man with a brain in his head and control over his sexual impulses.

    Guys: you need to keep showing up in her "media feeds" in positive ways (ways she likes). You also have to quickly figure out the purpose she has for you. (Sex friend, orbiter, text entertainer, chauffeur, back up date #1, Backup date #2, Backup Date #3)

    When it comes to making their plans, women are shameless. Whatever feels the best wins. Other people's feelings be damned.

    ^^^^^True, True, True^^^^

    If you send even ONE text that isn't replied to immediately - you can bet your bottom dollar that you probably* aren't on her 'Top10' list. Forget sex. You're not getting it. Delete their number if this happens twice or you will spend the rest of your days on entertainment duty.

    Well called Sid.


    *definitely

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    Re: With the courtesy of the PUA community "An open letter to the men of MGTOW"

    For text game to "work" a woman would have to recognize you and know you well. Which goes back to the point if they know you well enough then you don't even need text game in the first place. So at that point text game is really flirtation, because you are not trying to "win" a woman over as that has been decided upon already. So, figuring out the logistics of a "date" is all that is left and most grown men don't go into paragraph length of text when communicating.

    This is something younger men must learn if they do apply text game, and how they present themselves. Less is always more.

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    Re: With the courtesy of the PUA community "An open letter to the men of MGTOW"

    It's clear that PUA is just a tactic men use to get women to like them.
    A women is either interested in you or she isn't. If you have to employ PUA tactics, you are already fucked.

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    Re: With the courtesy of the PUA community "An open letter to the men of MGTOW"

    Well waddya know? I just posted this sentence over at HQ and I can recycle it here:

    The world over worships at the altar of Venus/Aphrodite and woe to those who will not make sacrifice to (or pretend to) the goddess.
    Dear PUA's thats what you're doing that is and its the polar opposite of what we're doing...geddit?

    You are prisoners of your biology and social conditioning and I as an MGHOW don't want to change that and I respect your choice of slavery since bollocks for brain cunt hounds really do deserve the prizes they win and your purchases and efforts are really appreciated by pussy-life merchandisers the world over.

    Its not my cup of tea dear PUA and the thirst has gone but like an alcoholic who cannot understand a non-drinker you'll never be able rationalise that and incidentally for similar reasons because just as any other prisoner of their own desires not only needs to feed, you also need validation and enablement from others or else you begin to look like the idiots that your females know you to be and thats the point is it not?

    Just as in ancient Rome a person must sacrifice to the gods or be a social leper the PUA has placed himself as the acoloyte of the continuing cult of Venus/Aphrodite and because you yourselves are so wrapped up in your worship and mania its woe, woe to those who will not make sacrifice.

    Well sorry to say this but PUA is full of shit so get over it heh!....if you were any good at getting pussy you wouldn't need PUA.

    Keep on preening and posing.

    Here's what I think about your cult:


    Cupid Pissing on Venus

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    someone asked the poet Sophocles: "How are you in regard to sex, Sophocles? Can you still make love to a woman?" Hush man, the poet replied, I am very glad to have escaped from this, like a slave who has escaped from a mad and cruel master."

    Dont worry about me. Worry about why you're worried about me.

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    Re: With the courtesy of the PUA community "An open letter to the men of MGTOW"

    Well sorry to say this but PUA is full of shit so get over it heh!....if you were any good at getting pussy you wouldn't need PUA.
    PUA definitely is for men who have no experience with women. A lot of their seminars are usually showing men how to be more spontaneous with women and how to be more 'romantic'... if that is the level they are at, then pea-cocking or negging a girl is useless. You need to develop confidence as a man and have integrity, that is what will make you more attractive.

    A preoccupation with pussy will bring you less pussy..
    I am astounded by the attention I get nowadays from cunts... just because I have pride and integrity and highly value myself.

    I turn down dates and sex all the time and I have no problem with it.
    This is because I know I have options and I can be as picky/choosy as I wish.

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    Re: With the courtesy of the PUA community "An open letter to the men of MGTOW"

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    It's clear that PUA is just a tactic men use to get women to like them.
    A women is either interested in you or she isn't. If you have to employ PUA tactics, you are already fucked.
    Yeah PUA techniques only work if you already have one foot in the door already of the metaphorical club. This is why game is more important in learning how to hold conversations with all people not just women you are attracted to.

    What we call PUA techniques these days were common social skills in the past for social settings. School dances is for young men and women to start to communicate with their peers but with the opposite gender too.

    PUA I have to admit does fill the gap of skills lacking in young men if they are raised by single mothers. But PUA is merely a starting point for a man to learn about how the world really works...basically a key that opens the front gate and nothing more. But PUA is a crutch like alcohol is in social settings..over time with experience most PUA coaches don't even try to apply game as it comes naturally being themselves. It is a paradox, but an important distinction that has to be made.

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    Re: With the courtesy of the PUA community "An open letter to the men of MGTOW"

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    It's clear that PUA is just a tactic men use to get women to like them.
    A women is either interested in you or she isn't. If you have to employ PUA tactics, you are already fucked.
    Agreed. Better to give her zero attention. That pua bs could get you beaten down by white knights or put into the back of a squad car.


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