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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    Keep in mind I been wrong lately.

    I think we have a young inexperienced guy here, who's trying to figure women out. His English is rough, and he want's to get laid, But he don't strike me as a concern troll. Maybe he's an odd fit, but long as he keep's his woman chasing out of the lounge I don't see any harm.

    There's no intro, and he's posting in opposing view's. He seemed honest, and with his English, getting much of an intro would be asking a lot.
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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    @OP- Just what is game?

    A simulation.
    A test case.
    A scenario.
    Possibility.

    A chance to really play.

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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    You got it all wrong.What is the point of mgtow if you think that young men who want help are trolls? Are you kidding me?
    And am I wrong by saying you are fucked in USA? Isn't it fucked that women can make you pay 150k for bailing out of engagement? I saw this and thought, I have never seen something like this in Europe. I know it doesn't mean that if I dont know its not real, but in my country it is impossible to do that.
    I yesterday read this book Under Clitoral hood by Marc Rudov. Total eye opener. And then it clicked. Women who fuck so called "bad boys" fuck them not because they wine and dine and be nice and stuff like that.I can't find anywhere No Nonsense guide by Marc Rudov, I would appreciate if someone knows where to get it.Already big thanks to frog for clarifying things for me, really great guy as Trump would say.

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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    Xcom, ya did good. If your wrong, your wrong. You'll have lot's of company.

    USG, you brewed up, and said what you think. That's good too. All I can say is we have accused many rookies of being women lately. No one knows, but it would appear we are right more often than wrong. If you let this one slide, you probably won't have any more trouble.

    You need to do an introduction though. Not having one make's you look suspicious. Your early post's were a start, maybe you could expand on them? If you weren't hiding back here in opposing view's, old Will Noy would be on you already.
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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    Do you think all women are bad by default?
    Why there are some angry mgtows out there who disrespect all women?
    What is mgtow views on "game"?
    Is it ok to pretend or game women to get sex from them?
    How to achieve status like women are chasing you?
    (without them knowing that you have money)
    1.No, not bad by default, but many are conditioned to be that way. I prefer to get to know a woman first and let her show me what she's made of.

    2. That's not MGTOW. That's real misogyny.

    3. Not for me. I am speaking for myself only.

    4. BE rich or athletic and have a girlfriend. Then they'll come out of the woodwork.

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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    Do you think all women are bad by default?
    No! There're smart women(Smart in leadership and technology! Ever met one?), women who support equal rights etc. But if you consider to marry and be a life partner, things change!

    Why there are some angry mgtows out there who disrespect all women?
    Different men have different past! Try talk to each person.

    Is it ok to pretend or game women to get sex from them?
    What're you? A feminist? Don't you know where your pussy needs to be?

    How to achieve status like women are chasing you?
    Be a MAN!

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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    Quote Originally Posted by genie View Post
    Do you think all women are bad by default?
    No! There're smart women(Smart in leadership and technology! Ever met one?), women who support equal rights etc. But if you consider to marry and be a life partner, things change!

    Why there are some angry mgtows out there who disrespect all women?
    Different men have different past! Try talk to each person.

    Is it ok to pretend or game women to get sex from them?
    What're you? A feminist? Don't you know where your pussy needs to be?

    How to achieve status like women are chasing you?
    Be a MAN!
    Genie,

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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    There's enough women that will screw you over or call the cops on you when she doesn't her way. The best to do is stay clear of them. Going monk is the best way.

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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    There's enough women that will screw you over or call the cops on you when she doesn't her way. The best to do is stay clear of them. Going monk is the best way.

    Agreed.

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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    It may become impossible to define MGTOW, or GYOW.

    Can MGTOW or GYOW be clarified?

    Probably not.

    In any case, it cannot be defined by a woman.
    Women create receivership.

    That is the one thing all MGTOW control-
    what they give. How they gift others.

    This is the nature of our bailiwick and purpose, and it
    will always exist as the nature of any man as he can both prosper and can accomplish.

    Self preservation.
    Freedom.
    Going your own way.

    God save the Jagr.

    Truly,
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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    I will answer for myself, since every MGTOW is different.
    I will answer for lurkers, since this message is quite old.

    Quote Originally Posted by understandingguy55 View Post

    Do you think all women are bad by default?
    No, women are dangerous by default, due society promotes and even prize women using their worst instincts.
    There's no such thing as "bad": it is "bad" a female black widow who eat the male? No.

    Quote Originally Posted by understandingguy55 View Post

    Why there are some angry mgtows out there who disrespect all women?
    I don't know others' opinion and feelings, and I don't care.
    However disrespecting women is a lot of fun in a society that views women as holy, superior creatures.

    Quote Originally Posted by understandingguy55 View Post

    What is mgtow views on "game"?


    My opinion is: good and highly suggested before you hit 25. It's boring, stupid, and to avoid after 30. It's a mixed bag between 25 and 30.

    Quote Originally Posted by understandingguy55 View Post

    Is it ok to pretend or game women to get sex from them?


    Just only if you actually get sex with those women.

    Quote Originally Posted by understandingguy55 View Post

    How to achieve status like women are chasing you?
    (without them knowing that you have money)
    It depends by your age and features.


    Quote Originally Posted by understandingguy55 View Post
    We as younger guys can't get laid because women go for older guys with more money and jerks
    And?
    If you want to get laid and women go for jerks, then you make friend with a jerk or two, and you learn from them how to play the jerk.




    Quote Originally Posted by understandingguy55 View Post
    Long story short, I want to date, I want to have sex and possibly with multiple girls. Maybe some long term partners in middle of that and then have children but not marry legally, never. No prenups and that kind of crap, because if they can be thrown out in garbage in USA, so in other countries as well.
    I approve the idea of having children while not signing a marriage contract. If you avoid even cohabitation it's much better since cohabitation is almost as dangerous as marriage contract.
    You'll get my personal bonus points if you'll cuck some married blue pill. I did once, for sure + there's a chance I did another time, but the latter isn't confirmed and cannot be confirmed.

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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    Do you think all women are bad by default?
    Define "bad" and "default". The "default" setting for humans is instinctive behavior. Is that "bad"? Well, "bad" is subjective, so everyone will have to decide that for themselves. Do I think that women behaving in accordance with their instinct leads to them having a long term relation? No. Attraction, courtship and longterm relations all have different goals. Women who fully surrender to their instinct will never hold a long term relation, and become single mothers as the alpha male(s) they have kids from rejects to become their provider. You see this in the black communities quite a lot over in the US.

    Why there are some angry mgtows out there who disrespect all women?
    Probably because one of the reasons for turning to the MGTOW philosophy is getting betrayed by women. Multiple in many cases. It's also why the recent lunacy regarding the Kavanaugh case is fueling this philosophy. Some men get burned, some men see others get burned. A high profile man getting burned because he got drunk and stupid with a girl during college is a wakeup call for many. It's called adolescence, not rape, dammit. And it's called libel if you don't follow up and apply criminal charges.

    What is mgtow views on "game"?
    Explain the term in this context if I make a false assumption here: My assumption is that by "game" you mean potential willing female partners for short term flings? It depends on the man you ask. Some distrust and are disgusted by all things female and will outright reject it. Some might feel interested. But most, if not all MGTOW men will be on their guard for potential duplicitous behavior and attempts at exploitation and emotional extortion. We've simply seen it too many times.

    Is it ok to pretend or game women to get sex from them?
    Again, depends on the man. If you're being upfront about wanting nothing serious, I see nothing wrong with it. Consentual sex between adults is fine.

    How to achieve status like women are chasing you?
    Typically women chase after wealth or extreme physical prowess. So either commit to bodybuilding and build a sixpack and a T-shirt that's just a size too small to really fit (if you want the alpha chasers and be part of the short term fling circus) or advertise financial wealth subtly. Women -will- pick up on these signs if they are looking for a beta/provider type, looking for a long term thing. If you fall in the latter category, expect to get somewhat older women, who are done "having fun". The MGTOW philosophy generally advises against getting involved with these women, since they are after your wealth, your ability to provide. They want to become dependent on you ('though you'll rarely hear one actually admit this).

    So what I understand is that women hit wall when they are 30 right? Because when they were younger they were riding cock carousel but there is big but, for example if you are older and successful you can still get younger women but how trustworthy they are? Is it possible to find younger women as you get older with same IQ as yours?
    The "wall" isn't at a set age. It's when women start to show signs of aging, which men instinctively interpret as signs of reduced fertility. This reduces their attractiveness as a sexual partner. Women who have been promiscuous until they hit this age typically have high physical standards for men, but realise they need a provider too. What they don't understand is that the rich alpha males they wish for, don't care to become the provider for what is essentially a spent wick in her twilight years. These women end up alone, unhappy. And this group is sharply on the rise, as you'll find nearly all extreme feminists among these. With no male provider, they'll have to fend for themselves, and I'm REALLY curious how that'll end up going for them in a year or 20, when the lot of them are well past the wall. Men can thrive alone, and the well-off among us can even attract a LADY (not woman) from a future generation and live happily. Men remain sexually able well into their 50's, if not longer. Libido decreases, but ability to father children does not. And male libido is stronger then female anyway, so it works out. I'd consider taking a critical look on the future a lifestyle has in store for you and then choosing another path as a sign of intelligence... I think most of MGTOW would agree. It's kind of what we're all about.
    So yea, I do see that happening. That the current generation of teens takes a critical look at feminism and the life it's taking women to, and just make the logical decision that that's a bad place to be. And then (some of) the MGTOW men that rejected women and relations based on the current day rules can take another look, and build another future. It's possible.

    I don't live in USA and don't know situation there, sounds like you are fucked guys.
    Well. Things have ended up pretty messed up in most of the western world. That's for sure. It'll get worse before it gets better. I don't see this ending peacefully or happily. But meh, we're men. When the world burns, we'll build a new one. It's what we do. I'm in Europe by the way. Things are a little better here, but not by much.

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    Re: Can you clarify MGTOW for me?

    Mgtow is like a river that travels away from marriage....the boat takes you away from the plantation. Some drown in the anger, while others rise up again and enjoy the still waters. It used to be women and children first, but then the sea appeared to turn red, but it was always that color, we were just fed lies, and the captains were all given rose tinted glasses since birth, and watched old TV shows depicting a lie of perfect blue sea. Now some men have taken a dinghy away from the main boat, leaving the others to continue watching the old TV shows, and follow the same river back to the plantation, because they think the sea is still blue.
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