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    Is the blue pill world winning?

    99% of the world would love to have the problems American women face. Are our fine honeys grateful? That's hard, because you have to be aware before you can be grateful. Sadly, our beauties have no clue.

    They can still play that victim card though. Since that's where the votes are, our lawmakers have flunkies who lay awake nights thinking of ways to keep the plantation from coming apart at the seams. Women cash in their marriages like insurance policy's, and the mans guilty when he opens the courtroom door.

    Looks like those creepy MGTOWs bet on the wrong horse, don't it? Thing is though, the blue pill world is losing battles too, and their big ones. They just haven't seen it yet. Or if they have, their sweeping it under the rug.

    However much they hate to admit it, there comes a time in every woman's life where her looks are not getting her another husband. A few more seasons and even a boyfriend is a long shot. From there its a short step to not even being able to give it away.

    What's the gross mating habits of geezers got to do with anything? Just this. The age that women get left behind is going down all the time, and shows no sign of stopping. Its already lower than the blue pill world thinks, and has put many women out to pasture already. What's going to happen when a 30 year old cant find a boyfriend, let alone a husband? It's going to happen, it's already happening. Call us names if you want, it wont do any good.

    You know the government is not going to put these woman out on the street like their homeless brothers. But they will not have the home they want, or could get, if any man wanted them. Needless to say, no man is likely to do their chores as they once did. Its a good thing. There's lots of shelter cats need homes, and Oregon winery workers can use the hours. Like your equality now ladies?

    One more thing I'd like to leave you with. When there is no child support for the woman to skim because their are no kids, and there is no marriage contract being broken, who are the courts going to blame then? The blue pill worlds biggest gravy train is going to be out of business in another ten or twenty years. That may sound like a long time, but its not, as all of you that are setting on the wagon now are going to find out.

    There will be kids of course, but the numbers are going down, and with more women being left at the alter, it's only going to get worse. And as now, there will be fathers who for whatever reason cant pay their child support. You can ruin what's left of their life's, but they still ain't paying. Going to be more of these in the years ahead as well.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Blue pill wins the booby prize.

    How can people live and die without examining the world around them? Sadly that means that will happen to a lot of people.

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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    The chance for women to get married keeps dropping. Let's do this thought experiment . . .

    Imagine that only ONE man in the whole US wants to get married. Every woman must move with great haste to snap up this guy. If a woman waits, the next woman will marry him. So they can't wait. Not a year, a month or a day. It's like a game of musical chairs with ten women and only one chair. When the music stops, there will be a lot of women left standing.

    We are seeing that today. Men keep dropping out of the marriage pool. The pool is shrinking and the odds of getting married keeps dropping. In the past, it was 35 and women die alone. Now it's 30. Soon we will match China and anyone past 25 dies alone.

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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    In the sticks a woman's value holds up a little better than the burbs. Not sure about city's. If she's not too crazy and smart enough to hide the accidental baby coming up, a woman in her early thirty's can do OK. If much older, or unable to hide her baby rabies, forget it. Boyfriends get scarce fast.

    Women are usually quick to see trends that affect their bottom line, but they sure missed this one. Women in their forty's and fifty's, want guys who are no longer interested, and plan to pay with something they no longer have. Getting any reply's ladies?

    It's too bad a lot of women are out of luck, but you painted yourself into a corner when you decided men were just a crop to be harvested.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    The Blue Pill world can never win. They rely far too much on denial, cognitive dissonance and social programming while promoting/tolerating negative personality traits such as materialism, individualism, consumerism, narcissism, and greed - not to mention a penchant for instant gratification and a throw-away mentality. These people are all on anti-depressants and in therapy sessions and wonder why they are constantly listless and are JUST NOT HAPPY, when their formula for living is pretty much the antithesis for any semblance of a spiritually enriched existence. On top of all that, they have fallen hook-line-and sinker for feminism and gynocentrism which has resulted in socialist governments and programs which are non-sustainable but worse, provide incentives for people to say "fuck it" rather than climb out of the holes they are in. Women don't even worry about getting pregnant anymore - abortion if she doesn't want it, and Big Daddy Gubmit and child support if she does.

    Even further, the lefty socialist/feminist eco-freaks are at full on war with industry and pretty much all male occupied/dominated fields. The more they can outsource all kinds of industry and manufacturing to China and India the more they believe we are "less oil/energy dependent" (pass the buck) while further marginalizing men. They say men are "failing to adapt to the new progressive, inclusive, environmentally sustainable information based economy" - which is a non-sustainable economy. Ironically, with this "not in our backyard" philosophy they are relying on Arab blood-oil and countries with serious environmental and human rights issues. Again, HEAD IN THE SAND is the M.O. these days. It's about feelz and getting the big socialist group-think NOD of approval. I guess they think if the hole in the ozone layer only opens up over China we'll all be A-Okay. Or, at the very least, we'll have someone else to blame.

    The Blue Pill world is cancerous - a tumor-like thing, ever-growing into a mass that will eventually smother itself.

    It's not sustainable (despite their wanton use of the word) and it's very clear that nature abhors this path man is on as much as it abhors a vacuum.

    Funny thing: when you watch science and technology programs that relate to human intelligence and social interaction, they boast and gloat about how man-kind is just fucking awesomesauce. Cartoon-eyed, they talk about being on the horizon of a collective consciousness where we all become nodes on a network, and no longer need to rely on thumbing away on smartphones to get our precious feelz. Can you imagine? A continual stream of great feelz in the digital domain, limited only by some bandwidth rate determined by how much you spend monthly to connect to the hive.

    What they believe will be the coming of age of man could very well be the end of man.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    I don't think the blue pill world is winning, but the great thing about MGTOW is that, even if they were, I wouldn't care.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    It is not about winning or losing but about survival. How much does the average person know about survival outside of the prison like system constructed to keep the plebs grinding?

    This is why when men find out the truth there is a rage. The rage goes beyond just the social dynamics between men and women, but the entire gynocentric system designed to grind men into dust.

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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    I don't think it's winning per se its just more common. Men are doomed and trained since birth. You are not considered a man unless you get married & have kids according to society. You will be shamed into it. I was shamed into marriage and dammit was I a sucker. There is no benefit in marriage for men. Anyone that tells you different is lying , brainwashed, or to afraid to mention the truth.

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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    I don't think it's winning per se its just more common. Men are doomed and trained since birth. You are not considered a man unless you get married & have kids according to society. You will be shamed into it. I was shamed into marriage and dammit was I a sucker. There is no benefit in marriage for men. Anyone that tells you different is lying , brainwashed, or to afraid to mention the truth.
    What always makes me laugh is that the guys trying to shame me for not being married, aren't even happily married themselves. They always look older, always have less health, less youth, less freedom, and most of them talk about their wife not wanting intimacy.

    One guy accused me of being gay and said that being married proves a man isn't gay. Then some weeks later, I noticed him looking at men and making a lot of jokes that focused on gay men.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    What always makes me laugh is that the guys trying to shame me for not being married, aren't even happily married themselves. They always look older, always have less health, less youth, less freedom, and most of them talk about their wife not wanting intimacy.

    One guy accused me of being gay and said that being married proves a man isn't gay. Then some weeks later, I noticed him looking at men and making a lot of jokes that focused on gay men.


    He is TOTALLY right. Being married DOES prove a man isn't gay.

    And if you don't believe ME, you can ask any of these 'definitely not gay' men:


    Oscar Wilde
    Little Richard
    Elton John
    Rock Hudson
    Freddie Mercury
    Anthony Perkins
    ..... etc, etc

    Do I need to go on?

    Tell him to fuck off and to go enjoy his 'marriage'. It has got fuck-all to do with him. Well, except for the fact that he wants you to get married too and become just as completely miserable as he is.

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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Keyknob View Post
    He is TOTALLY right. Being married DOES prove a man isn't gay.

    And if you don't believe ME, you can ask any of these 'definitely not gay' men:


    Oscar Wilde
    Little Richard
    Elton John
    Rock Hudson
    Freddie Mercury
    Anthony Perkins
    ..... etc, etc

    Do I need to go on?

    Tell him to fuck off and to go enjoy his 'marriage'. It has got fuck-all to do with him. Well, except for the fact that he wants you to get married too and become just as completely miserable as he is.
    Yea, I think that's it. They are slaving away working two jobs, don't have any free weekends, are restricted by their wife, and have children. Then they notice that you are relaxed, content, and have free time and more money. They want you to join their lifestyle,it probably helps them justify it easier. One married guy that works two jobs doesn't even see any of his money at all, it's gone before it hits his account LOL.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    I don't think it's winning per se its just more common. Men are doomed and trained since birth. You are not considered a man unless you get married & have kids according to society. You will be shamed into it. I was shamed into marriage and dammit was I a sucker. There is no benefit in marriage for men. Anyone that tells you different is lying , brainwashed, or to afraid to mention the truth.
    This! it's not about winning. Blu pillers outnumber us Red Pillers. Although more and more men are waking up, we will always be in inferior numbers. Most people are suffering from cognitive dissonance because they have been indoctrinated since they were small kids. If you can't unchain yourself from these invisible shackles that society enslaves you with than you will remain a blu piller forever.

    It is more comfortable to believe in all the lies rather than face an uncomfortable truth so that's why most people will be stuck in the "Matrix" forever. Because that's their choice. You can't save someone who doesn't want to be saved.

    Luckily shaming was never an issue to me. You know what . . . I am extremely grateful to my parents they taught me how to think with my own brain and that there is never only one point of view. They taught me critical thinking to question everything, myself in the first place. That got me sometimes in trouble. They gave me important advice. Although my dad was a blupiller he was there for me and loved me the same as my mom. They helped to develop a very strong character in me at a young age. They instilled values in me which are nowadays extinct No such thing to be found in the younger generations. This had a lot of negative effects as well. If you don't bow or compromise most doors in the corporate world remain close and they will never open.

    This mindset makes me really a bad candidate for marriage if I won't bow to no men what makes one think that I would kneel down in front of a women.

    I managed to navigate the minefield of my youth without getting blown apart, but these were different times I'm taliking about more or less 35 years ago. I observed my friends when they married some of them were taking to the cleaners others I lost contact with. Most of them are divorced though. Some of them are married for a second time we'll see if they are lucky. Sometimes a man must get burned twice before he learns his lesson. Most will never learn the indoctrination is just too strong. I'm just a lucky sob. I dodged every bullet so far but I'm still in the minefield as long as I live. Just one wrong move and you get blown to smitherens. No thank you.

    Unless these insane laws exist and are further pushed forward to discriminate against men in the divorce courts, more men will disengage from marriage, it's as simple as that.
    I guess it must be also some kind of shock to certain women that most men aren't that stupid, notwithstanding how they have been portrayed in the last forty years in the lame stream media. You know if you are used to watch your whole life men being portrayed as stupid, incompetent, lazy idiots you start to believe that shit. Well ladies to your contrary believe most men are everything else then stupid.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    One guy accused me of being gay and said that being married proves a man isn't gay. Then some weeks later, I noticed him looking at men and making a lot of jokes that focused on gay men.
    Many gay men of older generations have married a woman because they saw no other life path available to them in their younger days and/or religion and/or parents' expectations and/or peer pressure was leveraged against their shame, and they kept this a secret from their wives. Other gay men thought living a straight lifestyle would make them become straight over time. In times of great oppression as was before, these "solutions" sadly became the most attractive ones they had, apart from facing a life of being alone and isolated as the other big option.

    As we know, things are "better" nowadays for gay men than for earlier generations. As such, older gay men who are married to women see some kind of light for themselves at the end of the tunnel and thus are coming out even while married. This can be a very explosive thing to navigate, don't get me wrong, and almost always children are involved in the equation. Their wives feel cheated, like their marriage was a sham, like she was used, and are bitter. Some wives are ok. Their children are universally more accepting. Most of the guys are divorced or getting one. Some are still married. It's a bit of everything. I have read that younger gays today cannot understand how these men could not have just come out without marriage but such is the quick shift of society in a short period of time, I suppose.

    I know these things because I have a close married friend who is attending meetings for Gay Fathers Association with full knowledge of his wife. I have sat in with him on meetings and the insight one gains from hearing their life stories is impressive. Most of these guys are older, but not all. Some of what you hear is pathetic, all mistakes are candidly acknowledged, while each works to somehow find some form of open authenticity in their remaining years, while now living among a society that allows them to breathe easier. Always at the door, however, is the scorn of the unforgiving. Perhaps in fifty years both the unforgiving and the unforgived will be dead and then only the bookworms and the scholars might know they ever existed.

    So, to that guy's remark that being married proves a man isn't gay, I wonder what supporting research he has done to arrive at that proof.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    I don't think it's winning per se its just more common. Men are doomed and trained since birth. You are not considered a man unless you get married & have kids according to society. You will be shamed into it. I was shamed into marriage and dammit was I a sucker. There is no benefit in marriage for men. Anyone that tells you different is lying , brainwashed, or to afraid to mention the truth.
    Am not sure why, but I don't remember anyone trying to shame me into getting married. My family, unlike so many others, considered it none of their business. As for the women, they didn't consider me worth shaming. I must of been one pitiful piece of shit in their eye's. Oh well, their mistake was my good fortune.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    I think it is hard to hide the truth now because of social media. Social media exposes hypergamy, beta orbiting, white knighting, virtue signaling, victim hood olympics, etc. IF a man sees all that and still chooses to ignore all these observable truths then that man is going to learn the hard way the truth down the line.

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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    I am not in the Blue Pill world, therefore I am winning.

    If you too can say this, then you too are winning.

    Even if you're new or scared or feeling isolated in a state of Red Pill rage.

    If you're not in the blue pill world, there is hope for you.
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unwanted View Post
    I don't think the blue pill world is winning, but the great thing about MGTOW is that, even if they were, I wouldn't care.
    I'm a little late coming to this post, but this is how I feel about so many of the discussions regarding MGTOW. Very little about the Blue Pill world concerns me any longer. Although I try to avoid much of the news, you can't help but read about what's happening to all the celebs being accused of harassment. And I continue to have the recurring thought: Had they been MGTOW, all of these problems could have been prevented.

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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Tell him to fuck off and to go enjoy his 'marriage'. It has got fuck-all to do with him. Well, except for the fact that he wants you to get married too and become just as completely miserable as he is.
    This is just it, you get dickheads like Stephan Molyneux advocating this shit. And they say, you need to 'screen' a cunt before marrying her. Well it doesn't matter how much you can 'screen' a cunt, years even decades because female manipulation is very high quality; developed over hundred of thousands of years.

    If he was honest, he would be telling ALL men to stay single and enjoy their lives, and avoid commitment like the plague!
    Married men will shame you because they want you to 'join' them in their misery!

    What's honourable about a married man? He is a tool for his wife and society and if he stops providing, even through an accident; he loses his utility and is further shamed.

    I see married men, in the malls, with their wives shouting at them and little brats running around; they are a pathetic site to see.

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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    This is just it, you get dickheads like Stephan Molyneux advocating this shit. And they say, you need to 'screen' a cunt before marrying her. Well it doesn't matter how much you can 'screen' a cunt, years even decades because female manipulation is very high quality; developed over hundred of thousands of years.

    If he was honest, he would be telling ALL men to stay single and enjoy their lives, and avoid commitment like the plague!
    Married men will shame you because they want you to 'join' them in their misery!

    What's honourable about a married man? He is a tool for his wife and society and if he stops providing, even through an accident; he loses his utility and is further shamed.

    I see married men, in the malls, with their wives shouting at them and little brats running around; they are a pathetic site to see.
    It wasn't always like this. In the fifty's there weren't many single dads. But had there been, they couldn't make it. They had to be at work long before there kids left for school, and were still there when the kids got off. No boss would give you any slack either. Sure, neighbors could be put to work, but when shit happens you could be up the creek.

    A woman could care for her kids, and get welfare, though there wasn't near as much around as today. But it came with a big price. You were just another whore to every woman in town. And being an outcast then wasn't the same as today. You'd have a skinny paper, three or four TV channels, snail mail, and a party line phone where the other three parties could and did hear what you said if they wanted. My parents never did, but your average gossip could never resist. Long distance was costly too.

    I'm not saying everyone had a great relationship. But they did need each other, and usually didn't engage in all the snarky crap people pull now. They might of acted better more because they had too than they wanted to, but so what?
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    Re: Is the blue pill world winning?

    2018 will go down as the year of a big giant red pill suppository. Continuation of poundmetoo, Kavanaugh hearings, thotaudit, more female teachers having flings with students, tumblr shutting down radical feminist pedophilia, etc.


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