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    where have all the good men gone - one guy's long response

    I stumbled onto a bookmark I had saved before I joined this site. A guy was posting in 2006 in a thread about, you guessed it, where have all the good men gone. I thought I would share it here because he has so many good answers, I was impressed. It really got my attention. I omit one of his replies in order to conform to the terms of this site. I could not find any post to which he was apparently responding, so maybe he merely supplied his own list of typical things that women say. I hope you guys enjoy this as much as I did. The woman's statements are in bold.

    ·Men are too threatened by a successful woman

    Men are all too aware that women judge men on their occupation, assets and are interested in men of equal or higher status than them, not lower. Seems to me that men are being realistic, not intimidated. However these successful women may consider that the higher up the ladder they go, the less men of same or higher status there are. Conversely, men of high status (by women’s standards) have the largest choice of women available. Their only asset he is interested in: feminine beauty

    ·Men’s ego is their most fragile instrument

    Women’s egos are just as fragile. When men put women up on a pedestal their egos inflate like a hot air balloon. However if men are indifferent and make humorous fun of women, they keep coming back for more.

    ·Men are so frightened of our rejection that they can’t be men

    Actually, they are men just protecting themselves; they’re just not taking advantage of being indifferent and making humorous fun of you.

    ·I can’t change a man – without getting him ready for the next woman

    You have no right to change a man, as he has none to change you. If a man ALLOWS you to change him, you will not respect him because you can control him. If you cannot change a man, well….maybe you were attracted to his strong sense of individualism in the first place???????

    Oh, and do you think that the next woman wants your wussie "changed man" after you have chewed him and spat him out???????

    ·Men want to cohabitate with us but don’t want to marry us

    Men don’t want to make the ultimate commitment to you. Maybe they are not sure you are marriage material. Maybe there is something you could do to change that. Maybe it is not our problem….but yours.

    ·When I take the initiative men back off

    Could be many reasons why, but is probably just a bit of what men routinely face in the dating game….REJECTION.

    ·Men won’t listen

    Men do listen, they do not listen and respond in the way your girlfriends do. We are not women, we are men. If you get a chance to observe two or more men interacting with each other, you might learn something.

    ·Men can’t get in touch with their feelings

    Men are very in touch with their feelings. In fact men do not have to express their feelings all the time to others to validate them. When observing men interacting, you will notice when a man expresses his "feelings" to another, the respondent will reply with a solution to the problem, that’s what negative feelings are to a man, a problem to be solved.

    Women… well I’m a man and I’m not supposed to understand their complexities but heres a guess: feelings are drama and entertainment, like a soap opera, they are analyzed and expound upon until another dramatic feeling comes along.

    Unfortunately if a man expresses his feelings to a woman too much, he will be accused of being a wuss, Damned if ya do, damned if ya don’t, eh.

    ·50% of men already in relationships cheat

    And what percentages of women cheat? Are there a small group of extremely promiscuous women out there tempting these men or are you women going to take some of the responsibility for this problem?

    ·After he says "your special" I never see him again

    What, was this before or after you’d had sex? Actions speak louder than words. Women have a version of this to let men know they are not interested in going further: "lets just be friends"

    · Men have so few friends

    In comparison to what, women? Do you want us to be like you or something? You could add us to your girly friends list when we do!

    ·"Girly" magazines are so big with men

    Cleo, Cosmo, romance novels, soap operas etc get your juices going too! Do I have to say it again….do you want us to be like you or something?

    ·Men can’t ask for help

    ….wheres that dependant wuss boyfriend of yours when you need him to fix the car….

    Men like a challenge and will try to do it on their own, before getting help if they need to. Stop trying to negate a positive masculine trait that you occasionally find annoying, when mostly….you love it, eh.

    ….he’s asking the sexy, masculine neighbor for help.

    ·Men spend too much time watching sports even when they say they want more time with their families

    What is "time with their families" anyway? What women want to do? What is too much sports? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 hour, 30 minutes a day, or the big game on Saturday? How about women watch to much soap operas, Dr Phil, Oprah, spend too much time on the phone gossiping etc etc etc.

    Maybe watching sports with their sons could be "time with family? Maybe men work more hours than women and so have less "time with family" As long as he doesn’t annoy you when you are gossiping to your friends on the phone, you could stop nagging him when he is watching sports.

    ·Men can’t let a friendship develop and then if sex happens, it happens

    Because men know if a woman classifies him as a friend, it’ll never happen!………and I’m a male explaining female behaviour to a female HAHA!

    ·When I’m with a man I see his open and vulnerable parts. And then when he gets around other men, he closes them off.

    That is because you have accepted him as a masculine man and for your relationship to develop he shows his softer side to you. Unless he is gay, he has no need to show this to other men. What advantage could he possibly get from showing his vulnerable side to other men? From other men is how he shaped his masculinity, of which you were attracted to first place. If he showed his vulnerability to everyone and their dog, he would not be valued as a man, not even by you….men do on occasion, show their vulnerable side to select men they trust, but is only to fix a problem and find a solution, otherwise there is no reason to do so. This is something that you are not privy to because it is male territory and frankly, as a woman is not your concern.

    ·Men are so preoccupied with their jobs even when they’re losing contact with their family

    Men are the providers and don’t bother with feminist doctrine about equality. If a man does not have an income or assets, he is not valued by society. They are so preoccupied with their jobs BECAUSE OF THEIR FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ·Men are like little boys underneath

    We all have an "inner child" eh?

    ·Men contempt for women on one hand (witness their jokes) and put them on a pedestal on the other hand

    Some men put women on a pedestal and others have a healthy humorous indifference about women. Nice guy or seducer, which one gets your juices flowing?

    ·Men are "just desserts" but I’m willing to give up so much for a little banana split

    So what did you have for your main course? Maybe you just prefer shopping to men? Is it your self-respect that you are so willing to give up? You must make very silly CHOICES when it comes to men. However if you do not want to take responsibility for your choice in men, repeat ten times: MEN ARE ALL BASTARDS!

    [redacted here]

    ·Men are just interested in conquest – that’s the real excitement for men

    Is this not how we came to live in the standard we now live in? Men like a challenge and men built buildings, infrastructure, government, sciences, inventions etc etc etc. Is this a criticism or are you giving us a compliment!

    ·Men always feel they have to promise love even when they’re not in love

    Do you require they say they love you before you will sleep with them?

    All men want to fuck; some men will say they love you in the hope of getting a fuck, even when they don’t. Honest men will tell you they want to fuck.

    ·Women earn only 59% of what a men earns even when their contribution is "indispensable"

    WTF, more feminist doctrine. When women have children, they either don’t work or work less than men in paid employment. Women also CHOOSE to work in occupations that don’t pay as well. This is why women earn less than men, because men are supporting them.

    Think about this, a man and a woman in a job interview with the same experience and qualifications as each other, the man will cost the employer 41 percent more to employ….NO EMPLOYER WOULD EVER HIRE A MAN!

    ·Men have power and they don’t want to give it up

    More feminist propaganda. A small minority of men has the power; most men have no option but to shovel the shit to feed their families.

    ·Men can’t admit it when they’re wrong

    And some women have this stubborn habit too.

    ·I’m an attractive woman. I have lots of options. Yet so many men I end up with are insensitive.

    So, the more attractive a woman is, the more she requires sensitivity in men? I thought they left the wussies for the ugly girls with no options ;-)

    ·My father criticized me too often

    My mother criticized me too often. I think she saw things in a different way because she was female and I was male….maybe you could have a think about that.

    ·Men are so paranoid about homosexuality

    Are you attracted to homosexual (and I’m not referring to your fantasy of being so sexy that you manage to seduce a gay man straight) effeminate men?

    ·I’d like to be able to get lovey-dovey without it necessarily leading to intercourse, but that’s too much to ask from a man


    I’d like to have intercourse with a woman without it leading to getting lovey-dovey, but that’s too much to ask from a woman.

    ·When I meet a man I often think he’s wonderful—I tell all my women friends and I’m elated; then he disappoints me once, then twice. Before I know it I think he’s a jerk. Yet I’m still tempted to stay with him.

    Well, if he had disappointed you by not disappointing you, he would have been such a "nice guy" that you would have just wanted to "be friends".

    ·Male leaders get into too many wars (it would be different if a women led)

    "In response to the invasion, the British government under Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher declares a war zone for 200 miles (320 km) around the Falklands, assembles a naval task force with which to retake the islands, and launches long range air attacks from the mid-Atlantic Ascension island on the airfield in Port Stanley to disrupt the flow of supplies to the Argentine forces. From start to finish, this strange undeclared war lasted 72 days, claimed about 1000 casualties, and had a cost of at least 2 billion dollars. From a political point of view, it secured the reelection of Margaret Thatcher". source:http://www.ability.org.uk/falklands-war.html

    ·Men who aren’t macho are often.. well….Wimps

    If we are aloof and indifferent, you complain we aren’t open enough. If we get all open and touchy feely, you complain we are acting like wimps.

    As women try to compete with men, men should poke fun at them. when women realize they can never compete, men will throw women a bit of sensitivity….when they’ve earned it.

    As for wussies or wimps, they just need to unlearn all the feminazi propaganda that has deeply infiltrated western society.

    ·Men are afraid of commitment

    Men are less likely to commit if women continue to give away what men want willy-nilly. We thought you preferred wild anonymous sex too! If they do commit they are afraid that the woman will separate, taking the kids, assets, and a percentage of his income until the kids are adults….now what are the advantages of commitment for a man then, eh?

    ·If I could wish anything from my relationship with a man, it would be to have more honesty

    What, you want him to be more honest than you are with him?

    ·There are no men who are sensitive and strong—who are not already taken up

    I think maybe you have climbed far too high up corporate ladder. Remember women "marry up" and men "marry down"

    There are many men who are far stronger than their bank balances but you are not interested in them, eh?

    ·Men and women are so against each other

    Its good you’re taking some responsibility.

    ·Men can’t see the forest for their ego’s

    Women can’t see the forest for their sense of entitlement. Women have a sense of entitlement because they think they are a special gender. Women think they are a special gender because their egos have become much too inflated, eh.

    Cool, huh?
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    Re: where have all the good men gone - one guy's long response

    This is worthy of a sticky. It's a great go-to resource for anyone facing these dumb statements.
    Isaiah 4:1 (KJV)
    And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.


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    Re: where have all the good men gone - one guy's long response

    Good post here

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    Re: where have all the good men gone - one guy's long response

    A woman with a laundry list of criticisms about men, who is still on the prowl, is a failed woman. My only response to such a woman who "doesn't understand" why she doesn't have a quality man is: look in the mirror. There's a good reason why the "secure, confident" men you see are with other women, and not you.

    Women prefer male companionship (female imperative) in the same way men prefer to be uncommitted (male imperative). This is nature. The woman who falls down in this regard does not actually have valid assessments of men worth addressing, in most cases. I would ask: why do those great women with the men you like, why don't they have these criticisms? Because the criticisms are not actual reasons; they are made-up; they are simply excuses for why you haven't succeeded at the female imperative which is to make men commit.

    Everything a flawed woman sees is like looking into a circus mirror distortion. She is a forgettable, often paunchy twat waddling around but in her fun mirror she sees a complicated, sexy woman. She sees a quality man in good shape with a good job, and she sees him as something else. Her reason why the female imperative always eluded her? "Men starts wars!" Brilliant!

    Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums--> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)



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    Re: where have all the good men gone - one guy's long response

    Moving this to MGTOW 101, where it deserves to be.
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    Re: where have all the good men gone - one guy's long response

    I just figured out how to subscribe to threads because of this thread, it was that good. This would be an excellent starting point for mgtows to understand the Q&A etiquette for 'where have all the good men gone' related questions.

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    Re: where have all the good men gone - one guy's long response

    "Men are too threatened by a successful woman". Men are not threatened by anyone, in the female solipsistic mind, it has to revolve around them. Men maybe don't like your masculine attitude and lack of femininity, your toxic sassiness and your superiority complexes. But in no way shape or form are they intimidated by you as in physical or mental strength terms. PLus you hitting the wall after spending your most fertile years pursuing a career/chimera with no meaning, doesn't help you attract men either.

    "Men have so few friends". Your 1000 FB followers or your 10K insta followers don't count for real friends honey. Neither do your menacing wolfpack of hyennas that backstab you at every corner. Men don't need social validation to the degree that you do to thrive. Few selected loyal friends will do the trick.

    "Men can’t let a friendship develop and then if sex happens, it happens" No comment worth on that since women's delusion and lack of self awareness blinds them even to the most fundamental rules of the "game". A beta friendzoned orbiter has nothing to do with your pants other than maybe wash them for you, and that if you allow him to. Just lack of self awareness or also a deflection you will ask? A smokescreen to keep beta men on the threadmill? That's for you to decide.

    Men are afraid of commitment. Translation: When i was young none of the studs would (well duh, naturally) commit. Now that I've hit the wall none of the providers i want will commit either.

    There are no men who are sensitive and strong—who are not already taken up . Bish please, you wouldn't recognise a good man if he hit you with a train. And if you did and he perceived it, he is already dissapearing from your radar and running for the hills.

    Men can’t see the forest for their ego’s. In the term psychological projection in the dictionary this can be used as the perfect representative example.


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