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    The elevator pitch

    My attempt at explaining MGTOW in an "elevator pitch" - two minutes hitting everything relevant.

    First - relationships with today's women, under today's conditions, are not worth it. Relationships have always taken up huge amounts of time and money, but now they cost more: legal liability, alimony and CS (how many guys do you now who have been through the wringer?); and deliver less: women can't keep house, can't raise a family, are self-centred and entitled. Sure, today's women make a living, but so what? So do I. Sure they're "strong and independent" - how is that a benefit to a long term relationship? Today's women doesn't know how to wife and wouldn't do it even if she did. The only thing, the sole, singular, only thing todays man needs, wants, or can realistically get from todays woman is sex. Buying the cow is a worse deal now than it ever was.

    Second - once you get realistic and opt out of relationships, or at least marriage, suddenly you need so much less money and have so much more time. You don't need a house. You don't need a pusy-magnet car. You don't need holidays at resorts. And with that need done away with, all of the things that you needed in your life to get more money become redundant. You don't need a suit. You don't need to spend hours a day commuting to two jobs. You don't need to socialise with people you despise.

    There's domino effect once you give up on the now-unattainable dream of marrying up a good woman and living in a loving, lifelong family household. It's not that these things aren't great, it's that they are not in the offing anymore.

    Let's be realistic. The sensible thing is to admit "defeat", and Go Your Own Way.
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    Re: The elevator pitch

    Good stuff - I like the domino effect you described in the second paragraph. I hadn't thought of that...

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    Re: The elevator pitch

    This is some damn fine stuff, MrWombat!
    "Every woman is an engine of lies powered by a core of raw reproductive need"
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    "All women have done the last 40 years is to prove men were right for the last 40 generations." - Primus_Pilus


    AWALT may not be literally true - but it's the only safe working assumption.

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    The elevator pitch - "The Bad Credit Ride"

    This is such a good "nutshell" explanation of the trouble with marriage that I copied it here - BeijaFlor

    I was talking to one of the guys at work today about modern day marriage, and I gave him an analogy.

    I asked him if he liked the new camaros and he said "yeah, but I like the challengers better."
    Fair enough, says I. I then posed a multi part question:

    What if you went to the dealer and saw a bad ass challenger with a hemi, trick paint, deluxe interior, kickin stereo and mag wheels. Would you want a test ride? "hell yeah", he responded.
    Ok now you go for a ride and then find out your credit won't get you that ride.

    Now the dealer shows you a lesser model, still nice but just a regular V8, standard color, factory wheels. Pretty nice ride though, would you want a test ride? "Sure" says he.
    Ok now you go for a ride and then find out your credit won't get you that ride.

    Again the dealer looks around and there's a base model challenger, V6, no mags, plain color, cheap radio, rubber mats. Good dependable car, but not your first or even second choice. The dealer says he can put you in that car today, would you be satisfied with it? "probably not", he says.

    That's the problem with marriage, I say.
    he looks at me, "huh?"

    These women nowadays have been test driving every hemi they can get their ass up against, and they will always wish they had a hemi challenger, even if there's a good dependable ride in the garage, I summarized. Even if she chooses you, you will always only be her last choice, the bad credit ride.

    Think about it, I said.

    I hope he does.
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    Re: The elevator pitch

    Relationships have always taken up huge amounts of time and money, but now they cost more: legal liability, alimony and CS (how many guys do you now who have been through the wringer?)

    Think about this seriously as you try to establish contact with a modern woman.


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