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    Briffault's Law

    BRIFFAULT’S LAW:
    The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
    There are a few corollaries I would add:

    • Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.
    • Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1)
    • A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male (which is not bloody likely).

      (source)


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    Re: Briffault's Law

    So you're saying Baumeister's "80%/40% figures were like "77 cents for every dollar"?

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    Re: Briffault's Law

    Whatever it's history and status as a "Law", it maps very well to a lot of observable reality.

    Hypergamy - with value defined in terms of $$$ and/or "tingles" - is very clearly in play with a large portion of the female gender.

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    Re: Briffault's Law

    A further development worth announcing before signing off is the recently introduced concept of Women Going Their Own Way (WGTOW) by writer Diana Davison. Whilst men’s struggle is unique in some respects, women too sometimes decide to break free from gynocentric oppression and these ones deserve the ‘going their own way’ title announcing self-determination. Women’s path to freedom is in some ways different to men’s, and in other ways not. As long as women use the ‘W’ I take no offence to WGTOW. In fact I applaud it as another slap in the face for gynocentrism.
    From the source.

    I post it only because it piques my interest.

    In my opinion, a woman cannot "go her own way" while she still benefits from the cultural and societal advantages that gynocentrism grants. As it is not possible to contract out of statutory rights, WGTOW is technically impossible. QED.

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    But she could refuse to take the money right?
    Or she could donate it to mgtow.

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    As far as I'm concerned, Diana Davison is welcome to brand herself as a "Woman Going Her Own Way," or as a "Woman Going Where The Money Is," or as a "Woman Going Wherever The Hamster Leads Her," or as a "Woman Being Walked By Her Dog" ...

    Whatevvvuhz. I suggest it's beneath our notice.
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    Re: Briffault's Law

    But she could refuse to take the money right?
    Or she could donate it to mgtow.
    Yes of course. But she could never cancel her legal right to destroy any man associated with her.


    Whatevvvuhz. I suggest it's beneath our notice.
    Agreed.

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    It's all about the corollaries IMO/E, since they broaden it out to include all male/female interactions, rather than just breeding. Two of the major, ('redpill') formative 'WTF is wrong with women!?' events in my life involved my going to enormous lengths and expense to help a female 'friend' and 'mate', who respectively kicked me to the curb and threw me under every damn bus in the street while sadistically cackling, the moment my 'service' was no longer required. Just couldn't figure out how they could be so callous - surely I'd earned better treatment than that?!

    Reading those corollaries really helped me get why those events happened - in their atavistic little minds, I hadn't earned shit, and it was perfectly natural to flush me like a used tampon.

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    Stuff like this leads me to resign myself to remaining a virgin.
    One thing abotu Aspies is we flat-out cannot cheat... cos we don't have the required wiring to be able to deceive.

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    Re: Briffault's Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Covenant View Post
    From the source.

    I post it only because it piques my interest.

    In my opinion, a woman cannot "go her own way" while she still benefits from the cultural and societal advantages that gynocentrism grants. As it is not possible to contract out of statutory rights, WGTOW is technically impossible. QED.
    Indeed. It's a load of marking bullshit.


    This is like saying "Baathists Going Their Own Way" in 1990s Iraq. On top of that, the moment she meets a man she wants to exploit physically or financially, her commitment to going her own way will be jettisoned. I've NEVER met a woman who could keep her word when it meant walking away from a reproductive advantage.

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    Re: Briffault's Law

    Briffault was an anthropologist, so his "law" (which he himself never called a law) may apply more to primitive man than to modern man. My impression from the Wikipedia article about him is that in primitive societies the female was the head of the family & the father had no involvement in raising the kids. Instead, any male authority the kids learned to respect came from a maternal uncle. The boys, upon coming of age, joined their uncle's hunting tribe, not their father's. The father at best was a friend who played with the kids now & then, & at worst was a nuisance whom the female wanted nothing further to do with. As for us modern men, it can be said that if we can derive no benefit from associating with females, then we need not do so; that's the essence of MGTOW.

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    Re: Briffault's Law

    Quote Originally Posted by CCRoxtar View Post
    Briffault was an anthropologist, so his "law" (which he himself never called a law) may apply more to primitive man than to modern man. My impression from the Wikipedia article about him is that in primitive societies the female was the head of the family & the father had no involvement in raising the kids. Instead, any male authority the kids learned to respect came from a maternal uncle. The boys, upon coming of age, joined their uncle's hunting tribe, not their father's. The father at best was a friend who played with the kids now & then, & at worst was a nuisance whom the female wanted nothing further to do with. As for us modern men, it can be said that if we can derive no benefit from associating with females, then we need not do so; that's the essence of MGTOW.

    Considering we are regressing to the matrilinear system AND this change is driven in part by women operating on 30,000 year old programming, there is a case for elevating Briffaults truism to "LAW" status.

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    Re: Briffault's Law

    Quote Originally Posted by CCRoxtar View Post
    Briffault was an anthropologist, so his "law" (which he himself never called a law) may apply more to primitive man than to modern man. My impression from the Wikipedia article about him is that in primitive societies the female was the head of the family & the father had no involvement in raising the kids. Instead, any male authority the kids learned to respect came from a maternal uncle. The boys, upon coming of age, joined their uncle's hunting tribe, not their father's. The father at best was a friend who played with the kids now & then, & at worst was a nuisance whom the female wanted nothing further to do with. As for us modern men, it can be said that if we can derive no benefit from associating with females, then we need not do so; that's the essence of MGTOW.
    Roxtar, your description sounds very much like the Mosuo family system in southwest China. The Mosuo are described as a matriarchal society, and families live communally under the rule of the elder female. (From what I've gathered, earlier, from the "Mosuo Project," the men historically were caravan-traders, and so the women were left in charge of the home and farm.) Children are raised by their mothers and uncles, under the direction of the Elder Female ... the fathers don't live in the same household, and they carry out their own "parental duties" toward their sisters' children, in the house of their own "Grandma Matriarch."

    The "most interesting" (read, most pruriently-fascinating) factor about the Mosuo is their practice of "walking marriage." A young woman who takes a shine to one of the neighborhood boys, invites him to visit her in her private room in the house after dark and leave in the early morning. There are no limits on her "sharing the wealth," though Wikipedia's article insists that most women operate on a "serial monogamy" basis; the father has little responsibility for the children he sires, although he might bring gifts to the mother's family if he chooses.

    Does this work? Evidently, well enough for the Mosuo, although the rulers in Peking have pressured them to change since the Ming dynasty. The Mosuo man is not stuck in a miserable marriage - not in any 'marriage' at all - and his "family responsibilities" are toward Grandma Matriarch and his uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters, nieces and nephews. And they are responsible toward him, in the same wise; he can be secure in his place in the family and the household. Compared to the absolute hash we've made of "family" in the West, it actually sounds pretty good to me.
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    Re: Briffault's Law

    Yeah makes sense, if you don't have something offer a women that she can't find from any guy. Your phone will soon stop receiving messages and calls from that women and she'll just start ignoring your calls. If your offering more then her current boyfriend of husband she may "monkey branch" over to you over a period of time and rationalization.


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