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    We need more women in stem.

    I was at work and this woman I work with needed to tighten a fastener and this is how it went down. I need to leave out some details but this is basically what happened.

    Her. (with out getting my attention, like hey Jan you got a second). My XXX keeps falling down, I think I need a screwdriver.

    Me. ummm...Ok....what kind?

    Her. I don't know.

    Me. What does it look like?

    Her. It's not a plus. It looks like a star.

    Me. Sounds like a security screw, commonly called a torx or a torx bit.

    Her. giggles

    Me. (i must have said something funny) Ok, let me see.


    Her. OK

    Me. looks at it and my anger just wells up inside me. That star isn't a star. it is a hexagon, as in an Allen wrench or Allen key.


    Why would I get mad? She doesn't know a hexagon from a star. She isn't a 50 year old secretary, she is a 20 something girl power college grad with a degree in MECHANICAL ENGINEERING. A BS grad in Mechanical engineering who doesn't know: 1. what a hexagon is. 2. What an Allen wrench is.


    BTW. She is making >$60K on her first job out of college.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    double post

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Her. (with out getting my attention, like hey Jan you got a second). My XXX keeps falling down, I think I need a screwdriver.

    Me. ummm...Ok....what kind?
    she is a 20 something girl power college grad with a degree in MECHANICAL ENGINEERING
    She was messing with you to get your attention. She wanted to either waste your time or she was flirting with you. She obviously did both. The fact that you dropped everything for her shows that you still have a long way to go in being MGTOW. How can you be going your own way when you dropped everything for her? I would've simply said "Don't you have a degree in Mechanical Engineering? Guess you got your degree from a cereal box." She would've been speechless or left me alone in a rage". Either weay call her out on her shit and dont act like some love struck teenager.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Nooo , keep it up Jan i didnt know what trox is either . Allen Delon obviously screwed a lot to have screw driver named after him

    Young people even with stem degrees know nothing , an architect cant drill a hole ...

    I myself had to pass a welding exam just recently for a young dude that had a technical degree and was working for a welding company . Its normal , he was doing quality control but couldnt weld himself . It is just normal .
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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    I could have told her to fuck off like you suggest. Then she would go to my female boss and report me just like the other twat did last year. But since I like to eat I have to play the game.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan View Post
    I could have told her to fuck off like you suggest. Then she would go to my female boss and report me just like the other twat did last year. But since I like to eat I have to play the game.
    There is no law that requires you to bow down to her or anyone. Be nice about telling her to fuck off. A simple "I am really busy and need to get what I am doing finished" should be more than enough.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    I would've simply said "Don't you have a degree in Mechanical Engineering? Guess you got your degree from a cereal box." She would've been speechless or left me alone in a rage".

    i did that to the twat from last year. she cried to my female boss. it got me a 0.5% raise from my female boss even though i scored 4/5 on all my metric. everyone else who got a 4/5 got a 3% raise. It awesome for you to tell me to slam her feelings when it doesn't affect your raise. Be a good Toby, get a raise.

    I will do exactly what you tell me when you offer me a job making the same money Im making for what I do.



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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan View Post
    I would've simply said "Don't you have a degree in Mechanical Engineering? Guess you got your degree from a cereal box." She would've been speechless or left me alone in a rage".

    i did that to the twat from last year. she cried to my female boss. it got me a 0.5% raise from my female boss even though i scored 4/5 on all my metric. everyone else who got a 4/5 got a 3% raise. It awesome for you to tell me to slam her feelings when it doesn't affect your raise. Be a good Toby, get a raise.

    I will do exactly what you tell me when you offer me a job making the same money Im making for what I do.


    You did everything right , you dont have to be an asshole all the time .

    A male her age with an UFC t-shirt would ask you for the star screw driver also . Whats octagon some nerd word ?
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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan View Post
    I would've simply said "Don't you have a degree in Mechanical Engineering? Guess you got your degree from a cereal box." She would've been speechless or left me alone in a rage".

    i did that to the twat from last year. she cried to my female boss. it got me a 0.5% raise from my female boss even though i scored 4/5 on all my metric. everyone else who got a 4/5 got a 3% raise. It awesome for you to tell me to slam her feelings when it doesn't affect your raise. Be a good Toby, get a raise.

    I will do exactly what you tell me when you offer me a job making the same money Im making for what I do.


    It sounds like you need to grow a pair and fast.

    1. You are whining on a forum while looking for advice. You got advice but continue to suck woman ass. The fact that you even fell for her head games is pathetic. Quit being a mangina.

    2. If what you just stated in the above quote about your raise is true then why didn't you do anything? You took it like a bitch and they know they can walk all over you. You should've went to your boss and said what you just said here. You have a few options. Man up, continue to kiss their asses, or start looking else where for jobs.

    3. Would you take that same kind of treatment from anyone else in life? If so then you need to find a doctor and ask him to find a ghostly outline of where your balls used to be and plead with him to stitch another pair back on. The fact that you think so little of yourself speaks volumes. Never let anyone disrespect or take advantage of you. I don't give a fuck if its the fat ass 13 year old paper boy. Stand up for yourself.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Senior design projects for Engineering undergraduates no longer consist of a physical project/product at most big institutions. The students design via CAD and submit it to the TA. The days of actually learning to work in a shop, learn how to use machinery, learn how to use tools is long gone. They are taught how to use formulas and that's about it.

    Its become the standard that the employeer has to "shape and mold" the employee into the type of engineer they need for their organization. This is why so many EET's out of community colleges are being hired before 4 year ENGR B.S. graduates, they learn to use the hands and their minds.

    It will only get worse. Think about Chemistry students who no longer have actual chemistry labs but process things via virtual simulators and software.
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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    It sounds like you dislike the work environment but don't want to move to a new job because of how much money you are making. Are you in a situation where you have to earn as much as you currently are or is moving to another job with less stress a possibility? The fact that you cared that a recent graduate didn't know much of anything, gives the impression that the job is causing a lot of stress. Your responses to the other posters suggest the same. It you current job worth the stress?
    Yes, the work environment is unfair to you because you are a man, I've been removed from an office position for the crime of being a man, so I know it sucks, but we have to overcome these things.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Thanks for the abuse buddy. You win. Goodbye.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan View Post
    Thanks for the abuse buddy. You win. Goodbye.
    Its was a misunderstanding . Your story lasted under a minute but somehow everybody thought it was a major event with alarms and the whole city shut down
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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    I think OP just wanted to vent to some dudes who he knew would understand. Guess he was wrong.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    I think OP just wanted to vent to some dudes who he knew would understand. Guess he was wrong.
    Yes.
    Any post made in a public forum is a cry for help...
    And every Man Going His Own Way must conform to A CERTAIN WAY...
    And being GHOST actually means that you confront women over their blatant ignorance, lack of competence for the job they hold, and you face the hierarchy of your company risking your livelihood...
    And companies are really understanding of white men complaining about females being in a position they are not competent to hold...

    /sarc

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Some men really have no clue what it is like to work in a female-dominated workplace, which is something nearly all highly educated and compensated men must face.

    At my last job, I had a female coworker who technically outranked me. She nearly overdosed an infant on a glucocorticoid once because she couldn't do a simple mathematical conversion, which any first year pharmacy student could have done. She would have harmed the patient if I hadn't come along later and caught her mistake before it was dispensed. She once deprived a patient with ulcerative colitis (a horribly debilitating disease which basically shreds your intestines) of his mesalamine treatment for over a week because she thought he might have a potassium allergy. Potassium, a basic electrolyte which is present in your serum, all of the cells in your body, and necessary for your heart to beat, neurons to fire, and muscles to contract. She also stabbed me in the back more times than I can count, and is a big part of the reason I left and found a better job. I could go on, but you get the point.

    I was lucky, because even though I have a doctorate degree, my skill set is not so specialized that I can't go to the next town over and find another job doing roughly the same thing. Jan's skill set IS that specialized. There are literally only a handful of people in the world who can do what he does, but there are also only a handful of places in the world where he can do what he does. Giving up his high paying job which he's spent years establishing himself just to insult some dumb broad who obviously isn't qualified for the title she holds would be an incredibly stupid move, not to mention petty, like something a woman would do. The fact that she got this job which she clearly isn't qualified for, and that some other dumb broad has control of his pay and has taken literally thousands of dollars that rightfully should have been Jan's, simply out of spite for him, should tell you something.

    It's easy to let your emotions and pride cause you to lash out at people, but it is very difficult to keep your cool when you are put on the spot and make the smart moves in these situations like Jan did, without even letting on what you think of the dumbass incompetent cunts you work with. This is the essence of what it means to be a MGTOW ghost. Read Manfred's post carefully, he obviously gets it. This is a vital skill for MGTOW to survive, and a fundamental principle of MGTOW.

    MGTOWFOREVER, since you seem to have such an expert opinion on Jan's handling of the situation, I'd love to know what your profession is. By all means, enlighten us with your wisdom. Tell us what field your doctorate is in, and how your handling of these types of situations has affected your career. I'm sure you rose straight to the top of whatever company you worked for, going around disrespecting all the dumbass females for no real benefit.

    For the rest of you, who are learning how to survive in a male hating shit-hole where pretty much any woman can dismantle your career and destroy your life at will, take note of how Jan handled this situation. He was obviously just sharing it so you could have a good laugh like he did. But he's also shared wisdom on how to deal with a type of situation you will likely be dealing with over the span of decades. It is far better to learn how to blend in and not make enemies than it is to go around starting pointless fights and sabotaging your own career.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    So glad I work in a male dominated profession. Thanks for the real world example Jan.

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    Re: We need more women in stem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan View Post
    Thanks for the abuse buddy. You win. Goodbye.
    No abuse at all. I was just telling you to grow a backbone. If you continue to be a doormat then others will notice & take advantage of you. I have been there & would never see anyone else go through it. Add a simple word to your vocabulary and that is NO. Dont bend over backwards for people & do things you don't want to do! That is all.


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