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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrainPilot View Post
    Chivalry should be dead exactly because chivalry and equality are mutually exclusive, and women have consistently DEMANDED equality for several generations. The only remnants of chivalry that remain are the scraps that result from those men who still don't have insight into the original premise of chivalry, or the actual definition of equality.
    I figure that chivalry has outlived its purpose...... and its died from "natural causes"...
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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I hope Opaque will forgive me, but I never stopped opening doors. I do however only hold it open for a bit after going through myself. I don't pop it open and stand at attention or anything like that. I do it for guys too. It's no big deal. Maybe it's a country thing with me being used to having fewer people around.
    I open doors all the time! Then time it perfect to shut in their faces, even if I have to stand there holding it open!

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    The last line 'I couldn't agree more'. Just shows you how two cunts from two differing political spectrums always end up in agreement.

    Traditionalism, liberalism, whatever it is, as long as the goodies are being sent to woman's way; it's all good from where they are standing.

    Well, I can tell you that personally, I don't open doors for women. I think it's a degrading thing to do, and I despise men who do it. I also don't do any heavy lifting for women. They can break their backs, all good.
    Women have an 8 year longer life expectancy than men. Why waste our time doing them favors?

    They all want to play by 1954 rules when it benefits them....and 2019 rules when it benefits them.

    And remember, no good deed goes un-punished. Keep white knighting, and you will eventually be #metoo'd....like that guy in Australia who spent two hours helping a woman get her stalled car running....only to be accused of sexual assault and spending two weeks in jail until she confessed that it was all a lie.....which she would not have done if there were no security video from the convenience store parking lot.
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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    We can disagree, its the old 'Nature vs Nurture' debate

    How about Chad and Tyrone? Are they led by the dna instincts to provide and care for a woman?
    Chad and Tyrone are only 20% of the population. They have the dark triad characteristics women are driven mad by. It's the other 80% I'm talking about.

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    Chad and Tyrone are only 20% of the population. They have the dark triad characteristics women are driven mad by. It's the other 80% I'm talking about.
    I dunno, I think feminism has wiped out most of the white knights and spread allot of darkness throughout the west! Our grandfathers back to the beginning of time could never comprehend our negative attitudes and total lack of empathy we have toward modern women.

    But then again they could never comprehend the stereotypical negative attitudes, lack of empathy, and willingness to abuse that modern women direct toward us as they band together in all things female and feminism.

    Feminism has created the greatest riff between genders since the beginning of time, we on the other hand are perpetuating that riff by cause of necessity for our own personal safety, prosperity, and happiness!

    It's not our fault modern women have made themselves so damn undesirable! I literally shitcan relationshits before they can happen! I truly want nothing to do with them after living my entire life poisoned by feminism!

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I dunno, I think feminism has wiped out most of the white knights and spread allot of darkness throughout the west! Our grandfathers back to the beginning of time could never comprehend our negative attitudes and total lack of empathy we have toward modern women.

    But then again they could never comprehend the stereotypical negative attitudes, lack of empathy, and willingness to abuse that modern women direct toward us as they band together in all things female and feminism.

    Feminism has created the greatest riff between genders since the beginning of time, we on the other hand are perpetuating that riff by cause of necessity for our own personal safety, prosperity, and happiness!

    It's not our fault modern women have made themselves so damn undesirable! I literally shitcan relationshits before they can happen! I truly want nothing to do with them after living my entire life poisoned by feminism!
    It may not be your fault or my fault, but collectively it is the fault of weak western men. We let the genie out of the bottle when we gave in to their clamoring for the right to vote. The genie doesn't go back in the bottle before it destroys everything.

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    1950s - Chivalry gets you a wife for life (usually)
    Today - Chivalry gets you ignored, ridiculed, accused of being creepy, friend zoned, etc

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    1950s - Chivalry gets you a wife for life (usually)
    Today - Chivalry gets you ignored, ridiculed, accused of being creepy, friend zoned, etc
    You cant trust what people tell you about the fifty's, they swept a lot a shit under the rug. A lot of people had repressed feelings left over from WW II. There was no fixing these problems, so the pretended they weren't there. Course I was too little to understand much, but I later figured it out. There were a lot a tight ass's in those days.

    As for why people stayed together, reasons were all over the clock. My parents really did love each other, though it was uncommon even then. Mostly people needed each other. Single people and couples could make it on their own easy enough, but throw kids in the mix and you were done for. Guys had to be to work before kids left for school, and were usually still on the clock when school let out. Of course friends and neighbors would usually help, but their system was sure to fall short at times. Single women with kids might have enough time to take care of them, but she wasn't likely to have a living wage job. Worse yet, a single mom was considered little more than a whore by the rest of the town women.

    So people mostly stayed together for other reasons than romantic love back then. But I don't see what that matters. Romantic loves a sucker move anyway. It hasn't helped that many people.
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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    You cant trust what people tell you about the fifty's, they swept a lot a shit under the rug.
    Very true I'm certainly not advocating for a return to that era.

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Chivalry is a liability in this day and age. The gold-digger was banking on it, presenting herself first as hard-working, intelligent, and tough... working through fibromyalgia pain, keeping her demands on the low end... and then one day, boom! she loses (quits) her job, and calls me in a borderline panic, saying they may have to move 5 hours away, but somehow "We'll make it"... This was after love-bombing me constantly, selling me the White-Picket fence, referencing our my puppy-love memories, building up my self-perception as a truly "good man", and fucking me silly.

    The entire thing was staged to make me dive in and "save" her. And it worked like a charm. A huge number of women bank on this shit, and don't feel the slightest bit remorseful for maneuvering a man into this position. He's lucky to be getting her, after all. So ofcourse they want Chivalry to continue, because it benefits them in every way. Little known fact: I practiced hypergamy in choosing my wife. I was so completely broken down by trauma and mental illness, and I knew that she was gonna be a winner. I could simply tell. I liked her a plenty, and even loved her in a friendly sense... but I never fell in love with her. I had to survive, and it was my only chance at the time.

    Behaviour like this on the part of a women is fully endorsed by women everywhere... and they would even be sympathized with, because sometimes a girl has to sacrifice love, yadda yadda yadda... But I guarantee that if they found that a man did this, they would utterly lose their shit. Go totally ballistic. I would be decried as a loser and parasite... which to be fair, I was.

    But they aren't?

    Also, I hold doors open for folks all the time. It's a southern thing...
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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Hey guys... found this on one of my LHP groups and it is PERFECT for this thread...

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    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Chivalry has always been one of those concepts that presently baffles me,it is basically a desire for subservience to a woman's imperative. I can understand the notion of helping others out when a difficulty hinders them due to their inability to deal with said situation,thats just common human decency. But to outright expect preferential treatment I this day and age when women are supposed to be considered just as capable is ironic at best.

    To the issue of whether women killed chivalry? I would say it died from a thousand cuts from both sexes unrealistic expectations. I think we are past blaming women for the state of things as nothing could be achieved by them without the complicity of men. So essentially I guess what I am saying is that just as men created the social structure that enabled women to select for the traits they desire by reinforcing such choices through both reward and punishment, the same can be said for men selecting the desired traits in women. Essentially we created the cluster fuck we find ourselves in whether unwittingly or otherwise.

    Personally i say good riddance to chivalry as it setup a man to always be subservient to any female who deemed it his duty to attend to her needs. Maybe we are going through growing pains and something more ideal will emerge from the turmoil presently prevalent. I personally think mgtow is a transition to that final stage where the antagonism between males and females is resolved to a reasonable degree. I dont know what form of relationship will eventually emerge between males and females but I am willing to bet it will be beyond what anyone can imagine.

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    Women killed it with me. I use to always be courteous to women cause its the way I was raised. But after a lifetime of pain & disrespect with women, I treat them accordingly. You treat me fair & with respect then I will be happy to do the same. Piss me off then I react.

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    I have come to view chivalry as a no-win situation for men. It is one of those social expectations that whimyn can weaponize at will. If you are chivalrous towards a female, then you are a patriarchal asshole. If you fail to act with chivalry, you are a misogynist pig. It all depends upon her feelz at the time and if she can gain something from you.

    The only answer is to ghost on them.

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    Re: Did women kill chivalry?

    No, women did not kill chivalry, it still has a pulse. Like always, it’s up to men to finish the job and whack it in the head with a baseball bat.


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