Thread: When did you give up?

I gave up on women after trying online dating and getting nothing but rejection. I then began to go red pill after all my frustration.

Originally Posted by Taxicollector

I gave up on women after trying online dating and getting nothing but rejection. I then began to go red pill after all my frustration.

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I gave up way back. In fact I think I may have given up before I ever gave it a good "college try". I was socially awkward and was different/made to feel different at a very young age. I recall one time in Primary (Grade) school, we had to learn how to do some stupid dance. We were maybe 10 or so. It was like one of those folk dances where you run around in a circle and take turns dancing with people. Anyway, it got to one girl and she just went "Ewww" and wouldn't do it. It fucked up my place in the circle and for something I didn't want to do to begin with it was just really weird.

She was a real dog too. So that was one early experience and sure, "You didn't just get over it Morlock?!" well, it is more complex than that and there was a lot of other shit going on. Overall I distrusted people in general and had few friends. Even when I did get attention from women I wouldn't notice till it was too late or just didn't act on it.

I didn't want the trouble that women brought with them. I preferred whores, seeing women on my terms and it was cheaper too. I also always resented the idea that we are supposed to feel so privileged and lucky when a female likes us and we should just keep doing things to make her keep liking us. I wasn't impressed by the game.

TL;DR I was and still am a loner and never meant enough to me to persevere with it all.

I was a late bloomer but when I got my shit together and appeared on the female radar I quickly realized two things:

1. All the good ones are taken and have been since their teens, so you can't start a relationship with them. Every feminine, attractive woman has at least a boyfriend, even if she doesn't tell you, and as long as he acts like a good little slave, she's not leaving him for you. All the single girls are massive trainwrecks and sluts not worthy of a relationship or really any attention at all.
2. They have zero loyalty so the prior point doesn't even matter and they're all sluts anyway. Sweet, feminine women in relationships with their high school sweethearts will make it clear to you in front of their men that they're DTF if you want it. An acquaintance's wife let me know very clearly when they were trying for a baby that she wouldn't mind if the baby was mine instead. Zero loyalty, ruthless AF/BB pragmatism.

Looking at the situation, there is no chance here for a man to have a good relationship with a woman. It's a shitshow. You will either be a powerless cuckslave or you can fuck them all any time if you're attractive and amoral enough. Personally, after a while I chose to just walk away.

In retrospect, there was nothing to give up but rose-colored glasses because there was nothing to get in the first place.

When I discovered prostitutes.

Originally Posted by Taxicollector

I gave up on women after trying online dating and getting nothing but rejection. I then began to go red pill after all my frustration.

I gave up in my very early 30's, (2001) only about 5 years after my divorce and after a few flings. The divorce opened my eyes to just how tilted the system is against men, and the subsequent flings confirmed to me that all women are the same - which is why they never made it past 'fling' status. Unless you have deep enough pockets to weather the risks that female "companionship" brings, these days it is best just to go your own way.

I gave up on women years ago at a very young age. After dealing with them all my life, they were literally killing me. I noticed my life did a total turn around once I get rid of them. I lost weight, my cholesterol levels went down,my bank account was gaining money, and I was way more relaxed and not always in a constant panic attack. Also, once you become red-pilled you are able to do the same things but differently. The once in a blue moon I do go out to a bar its now for fun and not to pick up chicks. Funny story about women & a bar, last time I was at one they were holding a contest for football jerseys. I won & I picked OJ Simpson's jersey. Hahaha. I bet that kept the cunts away! hahahahaha!

It took forever to finally figure out I was wasting my time. Spent decades being an orbiter or a spare tire.

Looking back, I've come to the conclusion that my towns women seem to have divided the men up beforehand. It appears now they had me slated for a fattie. But I was stubborn, and if there was anything I didn't want back then, it was a women who was already fat. That's probably all that saved me from an early marriage and divorce court.

Originally Posted by Zoidberg

In retrospect, there was nothing to give up but rose-colored glasses because there was nothing to get in the first place.

I didn't take those glasses off until a couple of years ago when I was fighting false allegations and finding out how many lies one person will tell themselves in a lifetime. After my first divorce in 1979 I got counseling and read some good self help books. I never made the same mistake twice with women again. I made new ones. Now, I'm done. Four is my limit.

as to "when" I dont remember... but in regards to "why".... I just was fed up with being forced to play a game that was made for sociological masochists...
there's no way to lose honestly.... and if that cant happen, winning is fundamentally impossible.....
not to mention, it totally lacks any provision for self-correction... start off with a new girl and you're right back to Square One.....

Originally Posted by Taxicollector

I gave up on women after trying online dating and getting nothing but rejection. I then began to go red pill after all my frustration.

Try again !

Now you wont even get rejection . You will get nothing

I gave up when I realized I was never in the race.

Don't really know what you mean by that.

What you mean Alik?

I gave up for reasons mentioned in my intro. That being said, I've also had several things reinforce the "giving up". The one that sticks in my mind right now is in the span of 1 year, I had three live examples of how women can lie first to themselves, and then to you. When I realized that they actually believed the lie, that I was dealing with creatures that could simply not be trusted, because mentally they shift their reality to match their narrative. I believe the term is "rationalization hamster", but IMHO that hardly does it justice.

They are fully capable of editing their past to make them look good, and they will actually convince themselves that their fiction is what really happened. There is absolutely no sense of objective reality with them.

Such a creature having the same legal rights as me is frightening to the core.

Originally Posted by pbisque

I gave up for reasons mentioned in my intro. That being said, I've also had several things reinforce the "giving up". The one that sticks in my mind right now is in the span of 1 year, I had three live examples of how women can lie first to themselves, and then to you. When I realized that they actually believed the lie, that I was dealing with creatures that could simply not be trusted, because mentally they shift their reality to match their narrative. I believe the term is "rationalization hamster", but IMHO that hardly does it justice.

They are fully capable of editing their past to make them look good, and they will actually convince themselves that their fiction is what really happened. There is absolutely no sense of objective reality with them.

Such a creature having the same legal rights as me is frightening to the core.

This is exactly what happened to me with my last ex. When I figured out the truth for myself and saw the proof of it in her actions against me, I realized all 3 of my exes had lied to themselves all their lives. Who am I that any of them would have been honest with me? No one, that's who. That realization made it very easy to walk away. And these creatures have rights and privileges that we men can only dream of having in today's world.

Joetech, the realization that most women chronically lie both to themselves and others is a very powerful one, in my opinion. As pbisque said, they have no objective reality. Having no objective reality is a form of insanity in my opinion. There is no reason, agency, accountability, logic, proportion, or cause and effect in such a constructed "reality". If these women hadn't been cared for and protected from at least some of the results of their actions, by our gynocentric society, they would surely have perished by now in great numbers.
There are some men who also engage in such behavior. The human memory is malleable and I've seen men change their version of events to make what happened more appealing to them. It's an easy trap to fall into, it allows one to soften our own failings and portray ourselves as more worthy than we really have been.

Originally Posted by Mr Wombat

When I discovered prostitutes.

Whores are awesome. Just knowing that sex can be so easily acquired if you really want it and for a price less than the average date/dating period. Not to mention the ability to not even have to care about any trouble she may want to cause you.

It is very freeing.

Originally Posted by pbisque

I gave up for reasons mentioned in my intro. That being said, I've also had several things reinforce the "giving up". The one that sticks in my mind right now is in the span of 1 year, I had three live examples of how women can lie first to themselves, and then to you. When I realized that they actually believed the lie, that I was dealing with creatures that could simply not be trusted, because mentally they shift their reality to match their narrative. I believe the term is "rationalization hamster", but IMHO that hardly does it justice.

They are fully capable of editing their past to make them look good, and they will actually convince themselves that their fiction is what really happened. There is absolutely no sense of objective reality with them.

Such a creature having the same legal rights as me is frightening to the core.

What do you mean same legal rights ?

If you had the same legal right as women there would be no stopping of you ...