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    Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

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    The CEO of L Brandsí Victoriaís Secret division, Jan Singer, resigned last Wednesday amid a continued slowdown in sales.

    Coupled with consumers abandoning malls, where the retailer is massively exposed, that means sales are going to continue dropping.

    Some critics say its issues come because the brand and its models have not correctly adapted to the changing market demands.


    ---------------------David's now Victoria hitting the skids. Victoria hits a lot of issues. Fatties want a place on that stage, along with men pretending to be women. Add in men are seeing through the lie of sex sells.
    Back when I was married to my 2nt wife, bought a lot of stuff there for her. Funny to see it crashing now.

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    Purchasing power of men dropped by the same rate . Simples

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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Ha, a comment from the referenced article:

    MGTOW is killing VS....The last 5-10 years I have noticed a rising trend of girlfriends dining out on Valentines Day because they can't find a GoFundMe Man.....
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Here are some dirty secrets:

    1. Women go through way more pairs of undergarments than men in a given year. A luxury item like Victoria Secret is basically marketing hype and a scam.

    2. Most Victoria Secret purchases on the high end are done by men for their wives/gfs. Women in comparison go to Victoria Secret to buy cheap bundles. See point 1.

    3. There are more competitors now encroaching on the market of Victoria Secret during a time when consumer confidence is very high and economy is very strong.

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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Suddenly, this old funny is apropos...

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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Ha, a comment from the referenced article:
    Funny and most likely true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Here are some dirty secrets:

    1. Women go through way more pairs of undergarments than men in a given year. A luxury item like Victoria Secret is basically marketing hype and a scam.

    2. Most Victoria Secret purchases on the high end are done by men for their wives/gfs. Women in comparison go to Victoria Secret to buy cheap bundles. See point 1.

    3. There are more competitors now encroaching on the market of Victoria Secret during a time when consumer confidence is very high and economy is very strong.
    I think #3 is the biggie. I blame nastygal.

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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Women run around dressed like that anyways, it's not special anymore.
    Whats with that landwhale in the red? Um, you have to look decent to wear clothes like that! (Hint,hint) Unless you are a "Chubby chaser".
    Why buy that kind of stuff when she'll only wear it for Chad? I bought stuff like that for my Ex, Ding, ding, let round one begin.
    Besides, we aren't supposed to look at a woman and think of sex, remember? We are supposed to respect her...ÖÖ.. mind?
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    The blue pill world is real good at sweeping shit they don't like under the rug. They'll have to, cause I don't see how they can put a good spin on younger and hotter women not getting theirs. It's not just a bunch a granny's no one wants getting stiffed anymore. You can bet the blue pill types won't notice though.

    I love this shit. Proof that that at least some men have had enough.
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    I would wager this trend follows the declining desirability of whimyn.

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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Here are some dirty secrets:

    1. Women go through way more pairs of undergarments than men in a given year. A luxury item like Victoria Secret is basically marketing hype and a scam.

    2. Most Victoria Secret purchases on the high end are done by men for their wives/gfs. Women in comparison go to Victoria Secret to buy cheap bundles. See point 1.

    3. There are more competitors now encroaching on the market of Victoria Secret during a time when consumer confidence is very high and economy is very strong.
    Yes, Victoria Secret underwear is nothing special, i mean it sucks . There are way better stuff for a better price .
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Honestly I think this might have more to do with women getting fatter and uglier rather than men spending less, although I'm not saying this doesn't play a good part. Now I'm far from an expert of Victoria's Secret but the models are always skinny as fuck. It's the same as with Hollister, they're targeting a consumer group that's continually growing thinner.
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    I think Walmart killed Victoria's Secret. Think of the Gretchen Wilson song Redneck Woman. She can buy the same damn thing on a Walmart shelf for half the price. That says it all!
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by Joetech View Post
    I think Walmart killed Victoria's Secret. Think of the Gretchen Wilson song Redneck Woman. She can buy the same damn thing on a Walmart shelf for half the price. That says it all!
    Your probably right. Still, I'd like to think it's partly because men no longer want these cows.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by Joetech View Post
    I think Walmart killed Victoria's Secret. Think of the Gretchen Wilson song Redneck Woman. She can buy the same damn thing on a Walmart shelf for half the price. That says it all!
    This is true for many brands. You know those cheap supermarket products? They're often made in the same factory as popular brands. Granted, I do notice a taste difference, but it's not huge by any means. Often times the difference between standard and premium is so little that you might as well ignore it.
    When it comes to clothes I've also noticed this. Cheap knockoff clothes are often nearly as good as branded clothes. Because they're produced in the same Bangladeshi sweat shop. One would think that premium price products would also result in premium price quality but often this isn't the case. Might as well just get the standard products then.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    If I recall correctly, Victoria's Secret has staunchly refused to make a "plus sized" line of their stock. Perhaps their target demographic has simply... outgrown them.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by AeternusDoleo View Post
    If I recall correctly, Victoria's Secret has staunchly refused to make a "plus sized" line of their stock. Perhaps their target demographic has simply... outgrown them.
    Yep, that makes sense. When I was growing up (approximately 20 years after the invention of the steam locomotive), almost no one was chubby. Now everyone (women and men) looks like they're trying to imitate WWII Sherman Tanks, minus the cannons.

    Another difference between the two eras is that back then everyone wanted to dress attractively. Now it seems like everyone wants to dress like they crawled out of a cardboard box under an overpass. That's the style. (The style for attracting what, exactly -- that would be my question.) Anyway, that, too, is definitely not VS's market.

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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    This is true for many brands. You know those cheap supermarket products? They're often made in the same factory as popular brands. Granted, I do notice a taste difference, but it's not huge by any means. Often times the difference between standard and premium is so little that you might as well ignore it.
    When it comes to clothes I've also noticed this. Cheap knockoff clothes are often nearly as good as branded clothes. Because they're produced in the same Bangladeshi sweat shop. One would think that premium price products would also result in premium price quality but often this isn't the case. Might as well just get the standard products then.
    You dont need that quality , you only need the logo and to wear a fresh piece every time .

    Its a bad taste if you wash your clothes , only homeless people do that .

    Try saying to someone that you just washed your clothes and they will go - oh god , do you stink or what ?
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    "Once a trendsetter with a powerful brand identity, the lingerie retailer has struggled to evolve as customers gravitate toward rivals—including a number of startups—offering comfort and ease, not airbrushed fantasy," observes WSJ.
    "Comfort and Ease". LOL. Gee, I wonder what that might be code for? (Hint: scroll down that article, and have your eye bleach handy).

    ThirdLove co-CEO Heidi Zak took out a full-page ad in the New York Times Sunday to criticize Victoria’s Secret's refusal to acknowledge that its customers come in every shape and size.
    Have a read of it (there's a pic of it in the article). It's hogwash. "Haven't we moved beyond outdated ideas of femininity?", asks a person who runs a lingerie store. Hogwash, ads so, so familiar.

    I don't know much about crotch bunting, but my guess is that they used to be a speciality store selling quality knickers, but then they got too big for their suppliers and had to resort to selling cheap shit at the same old prices. They'd be doing ok if they'd resisted the urge to go massive. It's another case of the way we organise corporations - corporation culture - killing the goose that laid the golden egg. Buyouts, stock options. Gordon Gecko is still doing the same old stuff, but the method is a little different. Rather than breaking up large companies for their assets, the game is to franchise small ones. The losers are the franchisees that buy into the hype late in the game.

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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Thought I might have some comments to share, but instead thought this clip that was in the comments section covers it all

    Al Bundy from 1994 with some "Victoria's" SECRET models

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