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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Victoria Secret can't sell their products because fewer women can fit into them.

    The kind of clothing that fits on VS models makes most modern western women uncomfortable. It is a challenge to their life choices. It is a reminder of how little incentive they have make themselves attractive and how they are too lazy to keep themselves from going to pot.

    "That clothing makes me feel fat," and "that stuff makes me feel guilty about how much I eat and how little I exercise."

    And why do women have so little incentive not to dye their hair purple with enough chemicals to poison Lake Eerie, eat more calories in a day than desert nomads eat in a week, do less exercise than baby cows in veal fattening pen, get more tattoos than gang member, and deliberately put more holes into their bodies than a slice of swiss cheese?

    Because the world has changed. They no longer need to attract a mate to extract resources from men. Provi$ioning, Protection, social status, validation and entertainment no longer have to be earned by attracting one man, being a vital part of his life, and running his home.

    They don't have to do that by being attractive. They do it by voting.

    After all, why fleece ONE man for his resources, when you can transfer resources from ALL men.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    This is who VS think they sell to






    This is who they actually sell to ...

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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    @Yumbo: You win for depressing post of the day! Hence why I didn't quote your post. I am off to scorch my retinas w/a laser pointer now.

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    Yumbo...I think their problem is that they aren't selling enough merchandise to the demographic in the bottom photo. The demographic in the bottom photo won't pay VS prices for stuff they can get cheaper....and in land whale sizes that fit them....elsewhere.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by Anachronism View Post
    @Yumbo: You win for depressing post of the day! Hence why I didn't quote your post. I am off to scorch my retinas w/a laser pointer now.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Yumbo...I think their problem is that they aren't selling enough merchandise to the demographic in the bottom photo. The demographic in the bottom photo won't pay VS prices for stuff they can get cheaper....and in land whale sizes that fit them....elsewhere.
    I agree wholly with you.
    That is why I think VS and other such brands will most likely follow the rest of the clothing mob to bring out the 'land whale collection'. I believe price does not matter to a female - if it a brand she wants she (or her ex or current man-slave) will pay for it somehow. The reason why whales don't buy is because VS does not have their size.

    Rather than get females to look good again (not that it matters to us) the push is on to deck swine with pearls.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Looks like swallowing the red pill has some serious effects on the economy.

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    Only a notch or two above Fredrick's of Hollywood style.

    You can get a pair of panties in your "Hello Fresh" dinner delivery box. Seems like a good tie-in.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Victoria Secret can't sell their products because fewer women can fit into them.

    The kind of clothing that fits on VS models makes most modern western women uncomfortable. It is a challenge to their life choices. It is a reminder of how little incentive they have make themselves attractive and how they are too lazy to keep themselves from going to pot.

    "That clothing makes me feel fat," and "that stuff makes me feel guilty about how much I eat and how little I exercise."

    And why do women have so little incentive not to dye their hair purple with enough chemicals to poison Lake Eerie, eat more calories in a day than desert nomads eat in a week, do less exercise than baby cows in veal fattening pen, get more tattoos than gang member, and deliberately put more holes into their bodies than a slice of swiss cheese?

    Because the world has changed. They no longer need to attract a mate to extract resources from men. Provi$ioning, Protection, social status, validation and entertainment no longer have to be earned by attracting one man, being a vital part of his life, and running his home.

    They don't have to do that by being attractive. They do it by voting.

    After all, why fleece ONE man for his resources, when you can transfer resources from ALL men.
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    Red pill awareness is like a flea collar for a dog.

    Except our parasites are numerous and vote as a bloc, and they can lobby our masters to outlaw flea collars.
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    Victoria Secret wasn't selling sex. It was selling the idea that the average woman could be made to look sexy by wearing their products.

    I don't know how long VS has been using this marketing theme, but I became aware of it in the early 1980s. I recall that in the 1970s, lingerie and garters seemed very passe in the popular conciousness and was considered a quaint marker for "old fashioned" porn that was recycled/reprinted from the 1950s and early 1960s. After the bra-burning late 1960s/early 1970s, fancy intimate wear seemed very quaint until VS brought it back (minus the girdles).

    But the "average woman + fancy underwear = almost-model attractiveness" marketing theme worked for almost two generations (1982?-2010?) because the average woman in their key demographic (middle class suburban women in their 20s & 30s and the men who loved them....or at least married them) weighed about 20 pounds less than they do now.

    Thirty years ago, that VS stuff could work miracles: soft lighting, kids left with grandma for the weekend, some Barry White on the stereo, and some lingerie and body splash from VS could make you forget frumpy soccer mom and remember the little hottie you met in college.

    But even if Miss Vicky's stuff was made out of silk and wasn't made by third world wage slaves, it is powerless against the rolls of fat of women who think their Kardashian-sized ass makes up for their bulk.

    Audiences laughed when Rosie O'Donnell
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    in the 1994 movie "Exit to Eden," and they were supposed to, as she and Dan Ackroyd were hired to provide the comic relief to a movie that lacked any audience appeal besides the hope of seeing "China Beach" star Dana Delany and supermodel Iman naked (hopes that were dashed). But where, in 1994, Rosie was a "chubby" gal, from the perspective of 2019, she is now a "normal" girl. As American women have normalized obesity, the SMV of 1994 Rosie has gone up 2, possibly 3, points.

    https://www.bing.com/images/search?q...gear&FORM=IGRE

    How can VS sell products that the average WalMart woman can't fit into?

    VS is no longer selling sex, it is selling fitness. And American woman ain't buying that.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    I suspect that this situation for VS is the fallout of women asserting that "men only want one thing"..... and the men have followed suit....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    I suspect that this situation for VS is the fallout of women asserting that "men only want one thing"..... and the men have followed suit....
    The internal dialogue of the VS demographic pre-2015 was "Men only want one thing....but if I wear this stuff, he will want it from me."

    VS was sold as a cheat code....buy VS, wear VS, and your SMV will go up 2 points.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    The internal dialogue of the VS demographic pre-2015 was "Men only want one thing....but if I wear this stuff, he want it from me."

    VS was sold as a cheat code....buy VS, wear VS, and your SMV will go up 2 points.
    talk about "doublethink"..............
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    Foolish thinking. Why care about the wrapper if the contents of the package is already known.

    The only situations where this kind of garment is suitable is in overt seduction. But using underwear for that means you're going to leave the elegant for the slutty methinks.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    I suspect that this situation for VS is the fallout of women asserting that "men only want one thing"..... and the men have followed suit....
    Men want way more than what women offer which is why men are the dreamers and risk takers in this world. But women only cultivate what is easy to offer aka golden vagina and never what they can work on beyond biology.

    Victoria Secret is simply a fantasy and when women refuse to lose weight to keep up with this fantasy it all falls apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeternusDoleo View Post
    Foolish thinking. Why care about the wrapper if the contents of the package is already known.

    The only situations where this kind of garment is suitable is in overt seduction. But using underwear for that means you're going to leave the elegant for the slutty methinks.
    Not necessarily.

    Men have monogamy forced upon them. After a while, one gets tired of the same partner all the time. Changing "the wrapper" provides the illusion of variety.
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    Re: Victoria's Secret: Sex Isnít Selling

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Victoria Secret is simply a fantasy and when women refuse to lose weight to keep up with this fantasy it all falls apart.
    thats because losing weight is too simple a concept for women... or they would have done it already...
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    They're unable to keep up with changing market demands...that's a hoot. She was a size 4 in her 20's, now she's a size 14. It takes more material to make the same lingerie for her than it does for the size 4. And in the end, the size 14 girl is just going to look like a sausage in that plus sized teddy...and she knows it.
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    The upshot is that VS can't charge more for the larger sizes: it would sizism or another form of fat-shaming.


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