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    Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    Life for everyone consists almost entirely of pain and suffering, with fleeting moments of pleasure. The world is cold, and hostile. There is no trust. We are at war with ourselves.

    It doesn't have to be this way. Surely if we are smart enough to create computers, we are smart enough to collectively realize that we have a higher purpose than striving for personal gain.

    People only truly wake up once they have been in the pit of despair, as a result of extreme pain and suffering. As far as I know, there is no other way. No forms of art, or psychedelic drugs for instance, are powerful enough to truly make people see reality. Not in my case, anyway, nor anyone I ever heard about. Humans are hopelessly blinded by the pursuit of material pleasure, and the only thing powerful enough to free their minds is a direct confrontation with their mortality and/or purpose, which comes as a result of despair. Until that happens, they do not even have the capability to think any other way than as they always have done.

    So for the good of humanity, we must wish pain and suffering on everybody. We must hope for a total and devastating collapse of civilization as soon as possible. And, if possible, contribute towards it. It sounds crazy, but if anyone is capable of engineering such a thing, they have the most profound, important mission in the world.
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    Re: Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by UnFucked View Post
    Life for everyone consists almost entirely of pain and suffering, with fleeting moments of pleasure. The world is cold, and hostile. There is no trust. We are at war with ourselves.
    If you really believe this, may I suggest that you have overexposed yourself to media? I don't think you believe this but only subscribe to the strange attraction of hopelessness. I have found that if I log off the computer and go outside, all these troubles evaporate. I go to the store, gas station, the park, anywhere in the course of my day, and there is no pain and suffering, no coldness or hostility. People are very friendly, in fact. I bet you think I am missing your point, right? I log back into the computer and BAM, a tidal wave of negativity.

    It doesn't have to be this way. Surely if we are smart enough to create computers, we are smart enough to collectively realize that we have a higher purpose than striving for personal gain.
    You bet, many people are indeed smart enough. They do respond to a higher purpose, a higher calling, and/or a higher power. Perhaps their nobility is not as visual, as vocal, or as argumentative as the nihilistic ones who have captured your attention. Certainly there are people around you who are not all gloomy and ready for the end of times. Average as many people may be, they are smart enough.

    People only truly wake up once they have been in the pit of despair, as a result of extreme pain and suffering. As far as I know, there is no other way.
    As far as you know? My friend, right there you indict yourself as one of the not-smart-enough ones. But, I know that you know that there is more than one way of envisioning something better for oneself. Be the person who demonstrates the higher purpose for others to see. Be that guy. Don't wait for others to go first. Don't wait for them as your permission. What's holding you back this time?

    Besides, most people who turn themselves around do it without having to first hit bottom. They merely don't advertise. You find this out by gaining their confidence through conversation and then they may tell you their experiences.

    No forms of art, or psychedelic drugs for instance, are powerful enough to truly make people see reality. Not in my case, anyway, nor anyone I ever heard about. Humans are hopelessly blinded by the pursuit of material pleasure, and the only thing powerful enough to free their minds is a direct confrontation with their mortality and/or purpose, which comes as a result of despair. Until that happens, they do not even have the capability to think any other way than as they always have done.
    I think if you talk to these people whom you think are under this hypnosis you describe, you can develop a more charitable understanding of where others are coming from. You have all of this judgement of others yet by your own destructive desires you are stuck in nearly the same mire that you describe for them, yes? Or, are you merely supervising humanity here from a superior position?

    So for the good of humanity, we must wish pain and suffering on everybody. We must hope for a total and devastating collapse of civilization as soon as possible. And, if possible, contribute towards it. It sounds crazy, but if anyone is capable of engineering such a thing, they have the most profound, important mission in the world.
    I thought that's what the feminists were doing. I don't want to partner with them on anything.
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    Re: Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    OP

    You only have to answer yourself one question - would you like to own your own business ?

    You need to look no further .

    All these talks about we are one and unicorns evaporates when you precisely want the very thing you are now complaining about .

    It is just business .
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    Re: Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    If you really believe this, may I suggest that you have overexposed yourself to media? I don't think you believe this but only subscribe to the strange attraction of hopelessness. I have found that if I log off the computer and go outside, all these troubles evaporate. I go to the store, gas station, the park, anywhere in the course of my day, and there is no pain and suffering, no coldness or hostility. People are very friendly, in fact.
    I don't actually expose myself to media. I read a lot of MGTOW content, and I am aware that much of it comes from hurt men and can be depressing. But also, it is the only content I know of that isn't tainted with the sickness, or the delusion, (or whatever you want to call it).

    I long for a human connection but people are not friendly to me. They are cold. For example, as a single guy in his late 30s, I am in good shape, and I buy high quality food for myself. I have sensed envy from the people working in the local stores. I have caught them looking at me with resentment. I had to start rotating the places where I get my food to avoid such interactions and I have recently started to avoid shopping altogether and have my food delivered directly to my apartment. I withdrew a large amount of cash from the bank recently and was looked at and treated with disgust. This kind of treatment isn't uncommon to single guys that live on the fringes of society. I also live in a city intentionally so that I can blend in. Having to live like this, it hurts me.

    You are in the US, I guess. Here in Europe, people don't smile at each other in the street. People are not friendly. Everyone keeps to themselves. I could go out for a whole day alone exploring this city and I would not have a single interaction with another person the whole day. In fact, I don't think I have interacted with a stranger in years. When strangers interact here, it is due to a request for help, such as asking for directions. People simply do not strike up conversations with each other in Europe, and this is my experience from living in two separate countries. I envy some aspects of US society. At least you guys acknowledge each other. I was there once and people standing next to me in line would start a conversation with me. I liked that. Here in Europe, that doesn't happen.

    What I see when I go out here, is in fact pain, suffering, desperation and misery. In the center of my city there are homeless guys begging for money on every corner. Truly begging, in need of help. And people just walk past them like they don't exist.

    I stand by what I said. Life is tragedy and pain for everyone, no matter how successful you may be. We are tormented and abused constantly from the day we are born. Brainwashed into addicts, and thus slaves. Addicted to something that is also sick and programmed to hurt us. Planet Earth is one giant prison. Everything is designed to trap us. The world revolves around money, a symbol for greed. I feel no love here and I won't miss this place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    You bet, many people are indeed smart enough. They do respond to a higher purpose, a higher calling, and/or a higher power. Perhaps their nobility is not as visual, as vocal, or as argumentative as the nihilistic ones who have captured your attention. Certainly there are people around you who are not all gloomy and ready for the end of times. Average as many people may be, they are smart enough.
    I would love to meet someone in real life who has broken free of the matrix, does not view sex as some kind of salvation, and who I can truly trust and respect. I don't think it will ever happen. Almost everything in this world is tainted, driven by greed, and therefore fake. Being aware of this, I am not even on the same wavelength as most people. I rarely meet anyone and when I do, I have to put on the mask just to be able to communicate with them on a level they can understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Be the person who demonstrates the higher purpose for others to see. Be that guy. Don't wait for others to go first. Don't wait for them as your permission. What's holding you back this time?
    I am and have been for a long time. I live for myself. I speak the brutal truth to everyone no matter if it offends them. But I lost all my friends and now I am truly isolated. Nobody followed my example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I think if you talk to these people whom you think are under this hypnosis you describe, you can develop a more charitable understanding of where others are coming from. You have all of this judgement of others yet by your own destructive desires you are stuck in nearly the same mire that you describe for them, yes? Or, are you merely supervising humanity here from a superior position?
    I do understand where they are coming from. I was there once. Are you suggesting that there is nothing wrong with humanity? I believe there is sickness that runs through all aspects of it. Literally everything is corrupted. We can't trust the news, the financial system is rigged, the corporations are destroying the planet, wars are going on. I have little respect for the human race in its current form. We can do so much better, and I believe the only way is by an complete transition of the collective human consciousness and this must come about through a devastating global collapse.

    Thanks for trying to understand me.
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    Re: Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    OP

    You only have to answer yourself one question - would you like to own your own business ?

    You need to look no further .

    All these talks about we are one and unicorns evaporates when you precisely want the very thing you are now complaining about .

    It is just business .
    I would like to not have to struggle to survive. Is that too much to ask, being born into this world against my will? And forever I will be used and abused until the day I die by a corrupt system that does not value me and only wants my utility.

    And this is my point, that it does not have to be this way. Humans are sick. They only care about personal welfare and profit. We only pretend to get along. If love exists among us, then why do we have to purchase affection from our biological opposites?

    This world we live in is utterly fucked and I refuse to pretend that everything is OK when it clearly isn't.
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    Re: Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by UnFucked View Post
    I would like to not have to struggle to survive. Is that too much to ask, being born into this world against my will? And forever I will be used and abused until the day I die by a corrupt system that does not value me and only wants my utility.

    And this is my point, that it does not have to be this way. Humans are sick. They only care about personal welfare and profit. We only pretend to get along. If love exists among us, then why do we have to purchase affection from our biological opposites?

    This world we live in is utterly fucked and I refuse to pretend that everything is OK when it clearly isn't.
    That is precisely my point .


    Now would you like to own a business so you wouldnt have to struggle in this life . (And rather watch others to instead of you )

    Yes or no ?
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    Re: Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    Here is my take and that is struggle is how you know you are alive and you want to improve your life. Without struggle and something to work towards that is what women have a life to look forward to. Hamster spinning, fermenting, changing their emotions faster than the seasons, etc.

    Does the world really recognize men? No.

    Does the world try to screw over men? Yes.

    But the fact you can see the bullshit and glitches in the "matrix" allows you a unique opportunity to determine your own destiny and what it means to go your own way as a man.

    As for humanity to rally it must be based on a grand goal beyond staying on this earth. Exploring planets or the stars is what will give the motivation for humanity to rally beyond petty tribal squabbles. Just my two copper cents.
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    Re: Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    To the OP;You now have the neccesary knowledge of how the world is run,and female nature,in general.Normal guys cant change the world;neither can we do shit about it.That said,use your "red-pill"knowledge to do good things in your life.Find things/hobbies that make you happy.Try to seek out like-minded men out there.There are thousands of men,who gow their own way in this planet;many are doing so,but dont know about MGTOW.Dont get upset or angry,on how the world is run;or how females behave;you cant change it,just except it for what it is.Find meaning and purpose in your life.Set goals,and do everyting neccesary to achive them.If you deal with women,NEVER MAKE THEM YOUR FIRST PRIORITY,THEY WILL ONLY FUCK YOU OVER ANYWAY.A woman should only be a supplement to a mans life,never his singel purpose.In the beginning I hated the "red-pill"and wish I never had discovered it(red-pill rage!) Now,I embrace it,and so should you!

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    Re: Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by Eskorteprinsen View Post
    To the OP;You now have the neccesary knowledge of how the world is run,and female nature,in general.Normal guys cant change the world;neither can we do shit about it.That said,use your "red-pill"knowledge to do good things in your life.Find things/hobbies that make you happy.Try to seek out like-minded men out there.There are thousands of men,who gow their own way in this planet;many are doing so,but dont know about MGTOW.Dont get upset or angry,on how the world is run;or how females behave;you cant change it,just except it for what it is.Find meaning and purpose in your life.Set goals,and do everyting neccesary to achive them.If you deal with women,NEVER MAKE THEM YOUR FIRST PRIORITY,THEY WILL ONLY FUCK YOU OVER ANYWAY.A woman should only be a supplement to a mans life,never his singel purpose.In the beginning I hated the "red-pill"and wish I never had discovered it(red-pill rage!) Now,I embrace it,and so should you!
    Your post reminded me what i saw just recently .


    I was watching a live stream of former prisoners that were doing stupid shit on cam for donations . Like punch each other with boxing gloves , eat a lemon , sing a song , put on a dress LOL .

    And they were making in a day more than normal people make in a fucking year in their post soviet country .


    And once someone asked them what would they say to all the guys if they happen to go back to prison , they would be downcasted for doing all the stupid shit .

    And the guy that was running the show , a former leader of the organized crime in that country and the former boss of the biggest prison told them .

    What are you all idiots ? Dont you have mouths to explain that this is how you are making your living and this is what you like ...And no one in this world has a say in how i live my life .
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    Re: Total collapse is our only hope for humanity

    Quote Originally Posted by UnFucked View Post
    Life for everyone consists almost entirely of pain and suffering, with fleeting moments of pleasure.
    Naah, not with you on that one. Especially since if happens to be a point of dogma of one of the religions. Most of the time, for most people, life is mostly average. Things keep tootling along.

    Quote Originally Posted by UnFucked View Post
    Surely if we are smart enough to create computers, we are smart enough to collectively realize that we have a higher purpose than striving for personal gain.
    And what might that be? More to the point, whose purpose? After all, purposes are things that people have - they don't just float about in space. If I open the door in order to go to the shops, the going-to-shops purpose behind opening the door isn't a thing that exists as a bare fact all on its own.

    If someone intends something for humanity in general, I want to know who, and I want to know if they have my best interests at heart. I would not, for instance, be able to get behind the purpose of any entity that - oooh, I dunno - once drowned every living creature in the world except for a couple of personal favourites of his.

    Acceptance of death, which is to say recognising that your own existence is limited, doesn't fill you with a realisation of some higher purpose. Quite the reverse: a certainty that you and your life simply must mean something more in the grander scheme of things is a conceit of the young, who think they'l live forever.

    The world isn't going to end just because we individually must do. And as we each must end, pursuing some material pleasures in the meantime is not a bad way to live, provided that you keep your future years in mind. Life is the great indulgence; death the great abstinence. Why abstain while we yet live? Why despair, when every breath is an exquisite pleasure? (And if you don't believe that, hold your breath for a minute).


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