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    Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    The Problem With—and Novel Solution To—Millennial Men's Porn Addiction.

    Credits to 'Dr Van Nostrand' over at hq.

    THE PROBLEM WITH—AND NOVEL SOLUTION TO—MILLENNIAL MEN'S PORN ADDICTION
    By Tierney Finster
    Photography by Photo by i love images/Alamy
    AUGUST 14, 2014

    "Harder, Daddy!" a barely legal blonde screams into the typical high school sophomore's earbuds. He's tuning out his health teacher's anatomy PowerPoint in favor of a more dynamic form of sex-ed—his favorite porn star's latest gangbang on his iPhone. Double penetration, check. Facial cum shot, check. Teary eyes as she chokes on one of the penises in play, check. "Oh my God, fuck me," the porn star screams. The video is interrupted, pausing on her gaping mouth, as a text message comes in from a girl across the room, a fellow fully clothed student. "Hey " she writes.

    Snooze.

    He's known this girl since preschool, but he's been masturbating to the porn star since he was 11. He finishes the video, excuses himself to the bathroom and returns to class to scroll the porn star's social media for any behind-the-scenes footage. Hardcore porn trumps flirty peers every time.

    This is the state of the emerging millennial male: searching and scrolling to find the women of their dreams; ignoring the real women around them. As a 22-year-old female, I'm part of the "digital native" generation. Aliens to analog, the majority of our life experiences are framed by, and remembered within, a context of total digital immersion. Above all, we're digitally native to sex and dating. As tweens and teens, we texted our crushes more than we spoke to them, announced our early sexual or romantic interests on Xanga and Myspace and posed our anonymous sex questions to search engines.

    Today—whether I'm crushing on or sleeping with a guy who learned everything he knows about sex online—it shows. On digital devices, they're experts at finding what gets them off, but in the physical world, their ability to engage, seduce and please women is vanishing before our screens. For many millennial men, sex has become a solitary pleasure, requiring only a strong Wi-Fi connection and about 90 seconds to achieve sexual satisfaction. As reported in the Japan Times, studies conducted by the Japanese Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare indicate a near doubling in the percentage of men who report a total lack of interest in having sex with another person (from 11.8 percent in 2008 to 21.5 percent in 2010). The typical millennial male might live in public (on social media and under surveillance), but he orgasms alone.
    Shaking him from his porn-addled isolation is necessary not just for his own well-being, but for the well-being of millennial women like myself who are left with three less-than-ideal choices: no sex, bad sex or sex with older men. At the risk of sounding dramatic, the situation is dire. So dire, in fact, that I think we need an equally dramatic solution: Millennial men need to head straight to the strip club. Seriously. I strongly believe strippers are the only people who can help these men comfortably transition from sexual solitude to an actual physical relationship with another human being.
    Hear me out. Like porn, strip clubs provide men with a realm of sexual fantasy they feel accepted in. But unlike porn, within the spatial confines of a strip club, men enter into a world where women are paid to provide them with something they badly need—tangible femininity. Even while nude women are performing lap dances nearby, I've watched countless men sit at strip clubs just talking with the performers. For some, this means sharing fantasies they might not feel so inclined to reveal elsewhere. For others, it means telling the women about their day, their problems at work and their children. The women listen, respond and nurture—a far-from-new form of physical therapy, but one that lets men practice the work of relating to women face-to-face in real-time.

    These stripper-client relationships can counter the effect of technology on digitally reared males, who "don't know the language of face-to-face contact," as Stanford psychologist Phillip G. Zimbardo says in his popular "Demise of Guys" TED Talk. "More and more they're living in other worlds that exclude girls—or any direct social interaction," Zimbardo explains, a state of isolation he and his research partner Nikita Duncan call "technology enchantment".

    For the relationship illiterate, nurturing an actual partner is too daunting and porn too effortless. Why face social rejection when a million cam girls, porn stars and erotic chatters are waiting for them on their phones and computers? "There's a certain convenience to online sex culture that's inescapable," says Mac, a 22-year-old guy living in San Francisco. "I consider myself decently well-socialized. And frankly, I've been desperate for female companionship since I can remember. But when faced with the real-life implications of seeking out in-the-flesh females who might share an interest in me, the temptation to put it off in favor of a computer screen is overwhelming."

    Other porn-brained young men might be more proactive in their attempts to have sex with another person, but they suffer the consequences of their digital enchantment when actually given the chance. Sex author Ian Kerner calls the phenomenon Sexual Attention Deficit Disorder, or SADD. "Just as people with ADD are easily distracted, guys with SADD have become so accustomed to the high levels of visual novelty and stimulation that comes from internet porn that they're unable to focus on real sex with a real woman," Kerner writes. Some men with SADD can't come at all; others can only come by recalling porn clips during sex, disengaging with the females they're literally inside.
    As I spoke to other college-aged women about the downsides of men their age watching so much porn, they repeatedly raised the same issue: The main problem with porn isn't the fantasy of girls, gagging and gangbangs; it's the lack of conversation about how this influential content alters the reality of interpersonal relationships. "Porn is ubiquitous, and yet, there's no mainstream public discourse around how to healthily, respectfully and positively interact with it," says Mackenzie, a 23-year-old woman who is "100 percent behind the concept of porn."

    While some men and women are, in fact, concerned with the way bodies, sex and pleasure are depicted in porn, the plight of anti-porn advocates beckons a popular sentiment from millennial pop star JoJo—"It's just too little, too late." Porn is a booming industry and a social fact. Ordering men to give up porn seems about as effective as abstinence-only sex-ed.

    As such, new opportunities for arousal seem to be the only way to lure men away from their computer screens—i.e., strippers are the e-cigarettes to porn's Parliaments. While some women might be concerned with the artificial quality of some strippers' appearance (breast implants, glowing spray tans, etc.), this aesthetic allows them to be the middle ground between fantasy and reality for the digitally enchanted.
    Nor are all strippers artificial. Plenty of the bodies lap-dancing across the country include un-airbrushed scars, stretch marks and/or cellulite. "They're real people," says Michael, a 22-year-old topless-bar regular. He considers his favorite topless bar (Sam's Hofbrau in downtown L.A.) a viable space for practicing communicating with women, free from the scrutiny applied to the digital record. "If you text [a girl], she can read it over and over again," he explains. "You get nervous and don't want to get screen-shotted, so it affects your thinking. Strippers break down the wall. You can't edit in conversation." And while that conversation has a price, the experience is authentic.

    Scholar and dancer Sarah Lynne Bowman would probably agree. While working as a stripper to research her master's thesis, strip-club goers confided in her that they're more comfortable behind computer screens than they are talking to people. Some utilized their relationships with dancers as real-world practice in life and love. Bowman is forthright in her critique of certain aspects of the industry—e.g., its capitalistic and misogynistic roots—but she still advocates for strip clubs as spheres where men might receive the healing they need to reconcile decades of solitary sexuality.

    "The table dance itself is a ritual that allows for playing on the edges of socially acceptable behavior and occupying a liminal moment with another human being," Bowman told me. "The dancer has a responsibility to guide in a respectable fashion, as a shaman would guide a rite of passage, and the recipient of the dance has a responsibility not to cross boundaries or behave inappropriately. If both individuals can reach such an accord, a moment of transcendence from everyday life can occur."

    Such moments can satisfy and transform the men and women involved. I've seen the changes firsthand. I've known Michael, the Sam's Hofbrau regular, for close to a decade. He was once the boy in health class watching porn and missing signals from his female classmates. But his trips to Sam's have taught him the thrill of in-the-flesh intimacy, making him more apt to flirt now, empowered by the practice he paid for. "Porn overload creates personal dreamlands, but they become too individualistic and lack intimacy," he says. "It's much more exciting to be around real women. These days, I spend more time with them than I do with digital clips."

    It's not exactly a classic love story. But it's a modern one. And it's progress.


    Just in case anyone might be interested in the writer of this article, maybe take her out on a date, contact her or discuss this terrible problem in person, here is a picture of her titled 'Tierney Finster is happy about Starbucks' decision to release a new size.'

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    There is a reason she is being ignored and porn is the least of her problems.

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    I can imagine her in a silver-grey, skin-tight hentai suit with the "GOODYEAR" logo printed down its sides.

    You could fantasize you were making out with the Goodyear Blimp.



    Seriously, I can see why Cupcake - ahem, Pound-Cake - is butthurt with the notion of young men preferring to jack off to Internet porn, rather than being forced by sheer desperation to put up with the likes of her. I, for one, would rather jerk off into a wad of 80-grit sandpaper than roll her in flour to find the wet spot.

    (You know, on reflection, I'll bet the blimp is slimmer than her, or at any rate more proportionate.)
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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    Men are retreating to porn because women are too dangerous/fickle/unfaithful/judgmental/ugly/oogly/great googly moogly etc.

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    lmao this is too good. Couldn't stop laughing at the stripper suggestion (I guess to them it means at least the men are still giving women resources right?), then the part about the woman who worked as a stripper to research her master's thesis (with a government funded grant no doubt), then the picture of the land whale!

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    stops just short of advocating prostitution. Which would be a better avenue to "rehabilitate" these young men. That is if she really gave a shit about these young men.
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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    Quote Originally Posted by Indianajohn View Post
    stops just short of advocating prostitution. Which would be a better avenue to "rehabilitate" these young men. That is if she really gave a shit about these young men.
    Nah, she doesn't. There is a huge shortage on the plantation and it's getting worse each day.

    I wonder how long they'll keep up the shaming 'cuz it works sooo well.

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    For the relationship illiterate, nurturing an actual partner is too daunting and porn too effortless. Why face social rejection when a million cam girls, porn stars and erotic chatters are waiting for them on their phones and computers? "There's a certain convenience to online sex culture that's inescapable," says Mac, a 22-year-old guy living in San Francisco. "I consider myself decently well-socialized. And frankly, I've been desperate for female companionship since I can remember. But when faced with the real-life implications of seeking out in-the-flesh females who might share an interest in me, the temptation to put it off in favor of a computer screen is overwhelming."
    ... Did anyone see that go by? Is there something obviously wrong with this? What about asking "Mac, a 22-year-old guy living in San Francisco" why?

    "There's a certain convenience to porn." says Korbinian, a 29-year-old guy living in Seattle. "The fact is, it's a lot of work and a significant amount of risk to seek female companionship. It's a simple economic decision: Spend untolds amount of money and time - which is money - to achieve an orgasm (which you may not get), or 3 minutes and 30 seconds of an orgasm you're sure to get?"
    Choke on that one, Playboy. And go fire Tierney Finster. She's a fucking retard.
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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post



    It's always the fattest whores that whine and bitch the most. Just look at her face. This cunt is at minimum 275 lbs. Woman you are MORBIDLY OBESE!

    A rational man isn't interested in a woman who is literally twice the size he is. There is nothing remotely appealing about that.

    Men do not want sex with you because the thought of it is appalling. Actual intercourse might be impossible because your multiple fat rolls would be layers in front of the vagina. I cannot even begin to imagine how badly you must smell. You likely cannot reach everywhere and properly clean yourself, and your many stretch marks and discolored skin are other definite aesthetics to take into consideration.

    I know you'd rather eat more and ignore reality and rail to the world about how you should be appreciated and wanted for your body, but you are not desired because you are physically fucking disgusting you fat bitch.

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    And the hand wringing continues while the plantation becomes more deserted.

    Sorry fatso, the only, I mean the only reason you're pitching a fit is because you're not able to engage in as much rejection to boost your ego as you would prefer. The average guys you so desperately wish to reject and relegate to the friend zone have checked out and found something that doesn't make them feel 3 inches tall. You're on your own from here on out.
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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    Quote Originally Posted by WheelBarrow View Post
    And the hand wringing continues while the plantation becomes more deserted.

    Sorry fatso, the only, I mean the only reason you're pitching a fit is because you're not able to engage in as much rejection to boost your ego as you would prefer. The average guys you so desperately wish to reject and relegate to the friend zone have checked out and found something that doesn't make them feel 3 inches tall. You're on your own from here on out.
    >99% of men reject her.

    Only the deviant chubby chasers would be remotely interested in this filthy, gargantuan twat, but once she opened her mouth, when it isn't filled with copious amounts of food, a large portion of those men would avoid her as well.

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    The main problem with porn isn't the fantasy of girls, gagging and gangbangs; it's the lack of conversation about how this influential content alters the reality of interpersonal relationships.
    It's the lack of conversation about the matter, they say, while talking to a Playboy reporter about it.

    Cue the wimminz given half an hour on national TV to complain about how they are being silenced.

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    women are paid to provide them with something they badly need—tangible femininity.
    Root cause flaw in the article's logic. Men do not NEED women unless they are programmed by them and/or slaves to hormones. Men occasionally WANT women for something, but it's not a need.
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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    Everyday my brethren, more and more young men are becoming porn-again MGTOW's...
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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    Men can't find a good woman so they seek release on the internet, Women can't find a good man so they bitch at the internet.
    If a woman can't bitch at her own man she'll just bitch at all of us. There's a red flag there somewhere...
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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    She is projecting a lot of her fears and trying to hamster it away by pinning them on men. Not shocked at all.

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    Quote Originally Posted by FapMaster View Post
    Men can't find a good woman so they seek release on the internet, Women can't find a good man so they bitch at the internet.
    If a woman can't bitch at her own man she'll just bitch at all of us. There's a red flag there somewhere...

    Bitches gonna bitch...

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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    The fact that she's overweight is beside the point. Even if she were a smokin' 10, men should be well-advised to stay away. Especially in California.

    But you guys are right that her circumstance might not necessarily be representative of the general state of dating.
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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    If porn alone is enough to replace women, they have a lot more to worry about!
    And when her lips so sweetly move
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    Re: Time to switch of that porn and find a real woman guys... Man-UP! or I will shame you some more!

    So her solution to internet porn consumption is consuming more porn at strip clubs. Come on!! Strip clubs cost alot of money. Least with the internet there is redtube and a countless number of sites that charge no money. Strip clubs solve the problem, that is her solution?? That was not the answer I was expecting. I look forward to more of her MAN up articles and constant whining while her collection of cats living at home goes up. Enjoy your life Ms Finster. Hope your house reeks of cat piss and scares more guys away while your waist line also gets bigger.


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