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    Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    This is an incredible article. Women today are just useless. Not all. But most. I am not saying that all women don't value men's lives. But many do. Anyway, the lady in the link pushes her boyfriend into killing himself.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-into-suicide/

    You read this and there is so little regard for human life. She probably would not have not acted the same way if it were a woman.

    Men just don't matter do they.

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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Michelle Carter knew that if anyone found her text messages to her boyfriend Conrad Roy III, she might go to jail.

    “[If the police] read my messages with him I’m done. His family will hate me and I can go to jail,” Carter texted a friend after her 18-year-old boyfriend used a gas-powered water pump to commit suicide in the parking lot of a K-Mart.
    You know, if a normal, functioning human being was able to realize the police will lock him up for doing something, and that his family would hate his guts, he might just stop to consider that this thing he is contemplating doing is wrong and, you know, NOT do it.

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    By the way, I'm moving this thread to Generalist. Not quite Bachelor material, in my opinion.
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    After his death, Carter became a self-proclaimed advocate for mental health.

    She organized a fundraising tournament in Royís memory and posted on Facebook and Twitter about her attempts to save her boyfriendís life.
    faces manslaughter charges in juvenile court
    Truly sick and disgusting. Should have been a murder charge

    Some dumb bitch posted this comment

    Not the girls fault. She did not assist. I would call this freedom of speech. If I tell someone to jump off a bridge and if they did it, would I be responsible for their death? think about it.
    And

    Quick to punish anyone just because you think what she did was "immoral " or "mean" . Same thing was happening in the Boston witch trials. Burn the witch = lock her up behind bars. She has committed no crime. She is just mean as anything but thats not a crime according to penal code.
    I wonder how many other women are thinking that
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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    This story's been around for more than a year ... I believe we had a thread on it last summer.

    Michelle Carter is, frankly, a monster. A reasonably pretty little monster, but a monster nonetheless. She evidently wanted the 'victim cred' of having an ex-boyfriend who committed suicide - a manufactured trauma she could hold up as a "scar on her soul" to entitle her to bottomless pity. Reading those text messages, I can't help but see her prompting, her badgering, as the act of a heart empty of human kindness, too ego-driven and self-absorbed to have any room for empathy. May God's mercy, in her case, be tempered with divine - and appropriate - justice.

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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    She evidently wanted the 'victim cred' of having an ex-boyfriend who committed suicide - a manufactured trauma she could hold up as a "scar on her soul" to entitle her to bottomless pity.
    This is a prime example of the womanly tendency for treating all other human beings in their lives as mere accessories to be used or discarded in any way at any time depending on her current wants (note: women call wants "needs").
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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Joker View Post
    This is an incredible article. Women today are just useless. Not all. But most. I am not saying that all women don't value men's lives. But many do. Anyway, the lady in the link pushes her boyfriend into killing himself.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-into-suicide/

    You read this and there is so little regard for human life. She probably would not have not acted the same way if it were a woman.

    Men just don't matter do they.
    I am afraid it is worse than that. Women have always viewed men as disposable in the last few decades. But a new phenomena is taking place where women view other women as disposable,, and thus we see the internal civil war happening with feminism vs womanism.

    There was a time when men and women worked together and were not at each other or divided by a big red line. I am not trying to paint the recent past or marriage 1.0 as being rosy. However, there was some level of respect for all human beings and life in general.

    We as human beings are such successful beings in the animal kingdom because of our cooperative strategy to build civilization. Personal desires, or constant attention for victim hood doesn't build anything as it is like a black hole that drains from those that have built things up.

    It is ironic that I may hold some views that come off as nihilistic and yet I am capable of showing empathy for all human beings men or women. I respect life, I cherish life, and I try to lead a life as an example for others to follow that is positive and uplifting for the soul.

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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    This story's been around for more than a year ... I believe we had a thread on it last summer.

    Michelle Carter is, frankly, a monster. A reasonably pretty little monster, but a monster nonetheless. She evidently wanted the 'victim cred' of having an ex-boyfriend who committed suicide - a manufactured trauma she could hold up as a "scar on her soul" to entitle her to bottomless pity. Reading those text messages, I can't help but see her prompting, her badgering, as the act of a heart empty of human kindness, too ego-driven and self-absorbed to have any room for empathy. May God's mercy, in her case, be tempered with divine - and appropriate - justice.

    (I'm with William Noy on moving this thread. This is a good example of something that DOESN'T belong in Bachelor.)
    Scar on her soul? She canīt have a scar on something that she clearly lacks.

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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Some kids are dumb. I have had a lot of time on the phone with suicidish girl friends. You don't tell people to kill themselves. She didn't get the memo. This is so not a Bachalor post.

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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    <sarc>the important thing to remember guys is that the reason for high male suicide is toxic masculinity. not this culture that hates men. but that damned evil toxic essence of a man that we shame him for.</sarc>
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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    This is a prime example of the womanly tendency for treating all other human beings in their lives as mere accessories to be used or discarded in any way at any time depending on her current wants (note: women call wants "needs").
    In my experience (which has been very long if nothing else), women do not think of others as accessories, with the possible exception of their own children. Women are so solipsistic that they think all of reality is merely a movie running in their heads. They, obviously, are the star of this movie. All others are bit players in this movie, and exist only to move the plot/drama along. Anything that happens to these bit players isn't really real and therefore doesn't matter. So, no matter how heartless and callous they seem, it is just them being the only person in the world, while those others were mere figments of her imagination that disappear once they have fulfilled her purpose for them.

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    BTW this explains the ability women have to edit reality post facto. The movie running in her head is subject to editing room changes after the fact, and the new director's cut becomes reality. This is how regret rape occurs; it was consensual at the time, but the consent ends up ont he cutting room floor, and the regretted sex becomes rape. They aren't lying about it; it is just that their reality has changed. Since there is no reality outside their own heads, any changes made in side their heads becomes objective reality to them. It is not that they are evil (well maybe not) but rather that they are deeply mentally ill.

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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    goddammit, bejiaflor. sarcasm isn't as funny when its pointed out.
    lol at least there will be no confusions.

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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    what I really find so deplorable about this..... turns out that one of the largest groups that are most "at risk" for suicide in people over the age of 25 are recently divorced men... (seems men are still being discouraged from forming the social network women usually have, so its a lot harder to weather the issue)

    I've even seen this kind of bias in toy commercials.... the latest "my little pony" one seems to regard female friendship quite highly... but I never see anything like it for boys..
    so, it seems to boil down to this..... girl friendships = beautiful, boy friendships = bordering on "crimethink"..
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    I had a hard time reading the article. It is quite simply - Evil.

    I wish she could be jettisoned into the sun.

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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    Women are so solipsistic that they think all of reality is merely a movie running in their heads. They, obviously, are the star of this movie. All others are bit players in this movie, and exist only to move the plot/drama along.
    There is a name for this: Sociopathy.

    This twunt is a fucking monster. They should be trying her as an adult and going for the maximum sentence.
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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    There is a name for this: Sociopathy.

    This twunt is a fucking monster. They should be trying her as an adult and going for the maximum sentence.
    The problem is not that this specific cunt is a monster but rather that she is not that far from the norm for women. Most women could move a fraction of a standard deviation in her direction and become what she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    The problem is not that this specific cunt is a monster but rather that she is not that far from the norm for women. Most women could move a fraction of a standard deviation in her direction and become what she is.
    Borderline Personality Disorder and Sociopathy both seem like an exageration of normal^H^H^H^H^H average female characteristics.
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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by bob View Post
    Borderline Personality Disorder and Sociopathy both seem like an exageration of normal^H^H^H^H^H average female characteristics.
    You know the deal. Big Pharm is needs yet another cash cow. If they rename the definition of belligerent bitch or asshole to a new medical condition such as "BPD"...cha ching cha ching...their clients pay for their allegedly afflicted clients wifes/husbands/daughters/sons because...it's not THEIR FAULT. For it was really the DEVIL that made them do it. Ooops. I mean to say, the BPD or NPD ghost possesed them...they're sick...give us your MONEY and you BETTER be insured. Unfornately that also gives false hope to those stuck in the river of denial there. But that is their problem, not mine.

    That's all this 21st century mumbo jumbo is. Psychological snake oil that really results in no end in sight for the clients who pay to "treat" their allegedly diseased loved ones.

    It's willfully bad behavior all dressed up under these laughable pseudo-scientific names. Don't buy the hype.

    On the other other hand, I do use the acronym BPD in posts of mine because it is mere shorthand. But do I recognize it as a true condition with say schizophrenia or depression? Not even close. It's just easier to type 3 letter than three paragraphs. Just because I use those terms here and there does not mean I do not see through it as psychological snakeskin oil and ultimately pathetic reasons for inexcusable behavior. Those people are NOT so helpless. I call bullshit on THAT one!

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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    BPD, maybe (don't know enough about it). Sociopathy however provides physical, neurological evidence. It should be pointed out that there are good and bad sociopaths. Good ones usually end up as lawyers, neurosurgeons, commando troopers etc., whereas bad ones usually end up in prison or mental institutions with life sentences.
    Narcissism is real imo, but it's easy to confuse it with delusional, self-aggrandizing behavior. When we talk about women's narcissism we're talking about the result of their solipsistic nature that gets overfed by unlimited and often unwarranted validation. It's sort of an artificial kind of narcissism.
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    Re: Teenís efforts to pressure boyfriend into suicide

    Ace, I like your proposed classification - BBD for "Belligerent Bitch Disorder."

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