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    Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns

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    A Virginia high school teacher who refused to use a transgender student's new pronouns has been fired.

    News outlets report that the West Point School Board voted unanimously Thursday to dismiss Peter Vlaming after a four-hour hearing that drew an overflow crowd. The school system said in a statement that Vlaming was fired for insubordination.

    Over the summer, the ninth-grade student's family informed the school system of the student's gender transition to male. The student wasn't involved in Thursday's hearing.

    It's not suggested that the 47-year-old West Point High School French teacher deliberately referred to the student using female pronouns in the student's presence, but in conversations with others.



    ---------------More in the write up. A political issue gets a teacher fired. Which is what all this trans stuff is at the current time. If he gets the right legal backing this is the case to take to the courts.

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    Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns

    My objection to using transgender pronouns is:

    If you are Queen of Australia, it's reasonable that you might expect me to address you as "your Majesty".
    If you are an academic PhD, it's reasonable that you might expect me to address you as "doctor".
    If your name is Eugine or Theodore, it is reasonable for you to politely ask me to address you as Hugh or Ted and expect that I will do so.
    If your name is Michael, it's reasonable that you might ask me to call you Michael and not the more familiar Mike. A bit stuffy, I suppose, but your call. Its your name.

    However, it isn't reasonable for you to expect me to address you in Klingon.

    Pronouns, like the prepositions ('to', 'of', 'with', 'by'), the articles ('a', 'the'), the pro-verb ('do'), and the verbs 'to be' and 'to have' are not names, they are not styles, they are parts of the english language. They are not swappable in the way that names of things are swappable.
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    Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns

    It's not suggested that the 47-year-old West Point High School French teacher deliberately referred to the student using female pronouns in the student's presence, but in conversations with others.
    So basically no "harm" done? This is absolutely ridiculous.
    Either way nobody should be expected to adhere to somebody else's delusions.
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    Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns

    Vlaming told superiors that his Christian faith prevented him from using male pronouns for the student.

    That's the real issue. If he had claimed he just hadn't gotten used to playing musical pronouns or just didn't want the trouble of remembering everyone's unique pronouns, it wouldn't have been an issue. This is a virtue signaling ploy at stopping those 'dastardly abusive Christians' from discriminating against anyone.

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    Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns

    I am not sure I fully understand.

    Let me see.....a young girl in the 9th grade has decided that she, sorry I mean he, "self identifies" as a young man and his, or is it her, parents inform the school district that she must moving forward be referred to as he .........and they take a competent man's livelihood away because he refuses to participate in this insanity.

    So now is this "young man", who happens to come equipped with a vagina and two X chromosomes, use the boys restroom and locker facilities?
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    Re: Teacher fired for refusing to use trans student's pronouns

    I smell a massive lawsuit and a multimillion-dollar settlement.


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