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    New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    It is 50 Shades of Gray in space.

















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    There still is no explanation how Mary Sue has so much power in a short period of time and how she is on par with the Skywalker family.


    The Force which is used and channeled based on choices has been corrupted by feels. Basically anyone can use the force now with little or no training. If you are female you are a natural at using the force (eg Leia Superman scene). She does have Skywalker lineage unlike Mary Sue but the training has never been explained or shown for her or Mary Sue.

    Luke Skywalker has been reduced to a man that can't accomplish anything while Mary Sue gets results.

    Rey shows a great force bond with a shirtless Kylo Ren. *Eye roll*

    Kylo Ren tries to persuade a seemingly ordinary Rey to come with him. This is exactly how 50 shades of Gray plays out in the books and in the movies. A powerful, conflicted, sadistic, machiavellian man tries to lure a "nobody" woman like her. This is a classic fantasy for women.


    I didn't bother seeing the movie and I can confirm from my family members that it is an epic tier trash. Star Wars is completely ruined.

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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Star Wars is completely ruined.
    Star Wars always sucked. Bad acting. Bad dialogue ("My hands are dirty" - barf!). Bad everything.

    Star Trek FTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    The Force which is used and channeled based on choices has been corrupted by feels. Basically anyone can use the force now with little or no training. If you are female you are a natural at using the force (eg Leia Superman scene). She does have Skywalker lineage unlike Mary Sue but the training has never been explained or shown for her or Mary Sue.

    Luke Skywalker has been reduced to a man that can't accomplish anything while Mary Sue gets results.
    http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow...47/index3.html

    edit: the way to think about star wars is like a comic book rather than a space opera. in comic books, new characters are introduced, die, and return without limitations. so, the work from the 1980s that was considered 'epic' (Epic of Gilgamesh) and 'legendary' (Legend of Beowulf) is now continued without the same traditional story structure.
    It is a superhero movie and story now. It is less of a traditional hero story.

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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    Wombats right, but I did like some of them. It really did pull science fiction into the American mainstream long ago.

    But I didn't like the last one at all, and if this one's worse, well they wont be seeing any of my money.
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    Its even worse - all the male characters except Poe dameron and finn were incompetant, a complete mess or total assholes/villains. Even in the case of Poe, he gets talked down to and berated like he's a reckless child by both Leia and a 7 foot tall neon-haired feminist vice admiral (this bitch dies though, good riddance). She made it clear she hated him the moment she met him. In fact almost all leaders and major players of the bad guys are white males - Kylo Ren, General Hux, dreadnought captain, hacker dude that finn comes across in space vegas. Heck the dreadnought captain in the beginning comes of as a stereotypical angry bigoted white man with a rough voice, and 90% of the soldiers in the first order are white men. The good guys OTOH is led by a white woman and consists of chinese lesbian couple, blacks, hispanics, a few aliens and few other human minorities. And I stress on the "human" part because there were barely any aliens (which runs counter to what star wars setting is - galaxy full of a fuck ton of aliens). Even Admiral Ackbar and several other alien leaders in the resistance get killed off, with Leia surviving. Secondly, they reduced Luke to a whiny bitch. I mean this guy who faced down DARTH SIDIOUS alone without giving in to his hate was completely overwhelmed emotionally when he realized that Kylo was already strong in the dark side during his training (this was revealed in a flashback). And Rey has to verbally bitch slap him his senses.

    Storywise, this movie is about Rey trying to get Luke to stop being a whiny bitch and learning about what made Kylo Ren turn on Luke and his fellow Jedi padawans, and the rebel ships trying to outrun Snoke's super space yacht and his escort fleet on regular conventional engines (not hyper-driving all over the galaxy). There is too much ripping off from the previous movies - part where Kylo takes Rey to Snoke was almost the same as when Luke was taken by Darth Vader to see Sidious and the movie starting off with the resistance evacuating their base. They even ripped off the new star trek - a cruiser pilot yells "punch it" when going into hyper-space.

    Considering the steaming pile of shit that was the farce awakens, I should have known better than to go watch the new film. But I saw and heard rumors that Disney might go with Lucas's original plan of introducing the Wills priestesses - the original wielders of the force. AThat the 8th film will reveal that Luke went into hiding to search for the existence of these force beings and uncover deeper mysteries about the force, the jedi and the sith, and that Snoke, and Rey (via her past and origins) are somehow linked to these mysteries. Of course I was sorely disappointed.

    I suggest to everyone - posters and lurkers alike - DO NOT GO TO WATCH THE MOVIE. IT IS SHIT. Wait till the DVD comes out and then torrent/stream it for free. In fact let me save you time and money and reveal the major events and points in the film:

    - It was revealed that Snoke had already reached out to Kylo and co-opted him to the dark side during his jedi training with Luke. After defeating Luke with his Sith powers, Kylo killed 6 of his fellow student and recruited the remaining 6 to join him.

    - When Snoke immobilizes Rey and orders Kylo Ren to kill Rey, Kylo instead stealthily force moves Snoke light-saber to point at Snoke's side and activates it - killing Snoke and slicing him in half. So Snoke dies like a bitch and we don't get to know where he came from. We will never know if he was Darth Plagius or not.

    - Yoda (puppet Yoda from the original trilogy, not CGI from prequels), makes an appearance. He convinces Luke to finally stop being a grumpy bitch and go and help the resistance.

    - Luke actually projects a force ghost of himself on the planet where the resistance seemingly makes their last stand in one of their last strongholds. He makes it appear as if he really is present, to troll Kylo Ren and buy time for the resistance to escape. Once the resistance makes their escape aboard the millenium falcon (since 80% of them are dead due to dumb 7-foot tall feminist's stupid plan to escape heavily armoured, well shielded cruiser on weak un-shielded escape pods. She also watched them get shot down one by one while doing nothing until the 50 or so shuttles were down to about 10), Luke shuts off his force ghost projection and the immense strain of it causes him to die a force death - the way obi wan and Yoda died. Pretty much Luke dies too.
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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    I was 10 years old in the summer of 1977 and seeing Star Wars for the first time was an awe inspiring experience. No one was expected for the visual splendor they were about to encounter. It was a true spectacle in the best sense. But ever sense George Lucas made the prequels it's been a shit show. I have not seen The Forces Awakens nor will I see this latest atrocity. For me the Star Wars saga began in 1977 and ended in 1983.
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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    Trust me, the prequels are starting to look good compare the current abominations.

    Btw if you are really into Star wars, I suggest you look into the expanded universe (aka Star Wars Legends). The fan authors, guided by Lucas, really fleshed out the SW universe in great detail, its facinating. Unfortunately it is no longer canon officially, but I say fuck disney and their SJW propaganda masquerading as a star wars trilogy.

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    I grew up watching the first Star Wars movies. I have not seen the latest one, so I cannot comment on it. I noticed the last three or four that I have seen seemed to be a little bit too much Politically Correct for my taste. I do know that in the original three movies it was men that can and would use The Force and women were not much of a factor except for that princess broad. Hell I remember when I was a kid in Anchorage AK. and I was buying a Star Wars action figure that on the back of the box they had an ad. The ad said that if you saved up so many points that you could get Admiral Ackbar from the movie (not yet released) Revenge of the Jedi. Yes the title Revenge of the Jedi was changed to Return of the Jedi at the last minute before the show was actually released.

    Now if your wondering why The Prisoner was up in Anchorage Alaska in the early 80's when I was a kid well I will tell you. My father and I were up there on vacation to look over the sites and to fish. I caught a 32lbs. king salmon on the Kenai river just west of Soldotna. This is one of many places that are thin on women and thick on fishing, hunting and camping. I was lucky enough to take two trips with my father to Alaska, mostly fishing and other times just getting into trouble because of not knowing our situation. Believe it or not I watched Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan at the Fireweed theater in Anchorage. What was so queer about this is that we took a bus to this theater and it was a close call if we would make it back to catch the last bus going by our motel. Well once the show let out we got outside and found that our bus was waiting for us outside the theater, about 1 mile from the actual bus stop.
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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    No surprise here. (((Disney))) is just a shit factory. Compare that with the olden classics:
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    Anyway, this is the only Star Wars you'll ever need
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    It's no surprise: the Disney executive in ultimate charge of Star Wars is called Kathleen Kennedy, so it looks like female studio bosses are like female bosses everywhere else. A guy takes over a studio and he might want to go for blockbusters, or Oscar bait, or indie-style productions, but female bosses want da gurl powah!.
    Feminists have to quote sometime in the 1950s as the Year Zero of female oppression. People would realise how nuts they are if they tried to claim being a housewife was worth than what guys were dealing with in 1942.

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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    The Truth About Star Wars: The Last Jedi by Stefan Molyneux


    I was listening to this video by Stefan Molyneux a few hours ago. I was thinking with his parameters about the meaning of this movie. (Citing Socrates and Stefan's personal experience, Stefan says most artistic expression is an expression of current and popular social themes.)

    Star Wars has become a superhero movie, because we believe in innate, genetic abilities. Social justice is a movement to clarify those advantages. The traditional 'heroic' equality of opportunity is being replaced with equality of outcome because equality of opportunity no longer exists. Science says some people are born with more opportunity than others both materially and physically (and mentally).

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    Because it made money, there will be more girl power Star War movies. If Star Wars makes money, other studios will do the same. For the next few years, we will drown in girl power movies. We will see She Hulk, She Thor, She Three Stooges.

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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Joker View Post
    Because it made money, there will be more girl power Star War movies. If Star Wars makes money, other studios will do the same. For the next few years, we will drown in girl power movies. We will see She Hulk, She Thor, She Three Stooges.
    Agreed, idiot nerd fanboys will eat up nearly everything.
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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    I've never really watched any star wars movies(please don't kill me), but i know how passionate its fandom is and I can only imagine how like a punch to the gut it feels watching a beloved franchise being filled with feminist propaganda rather than continuity and plot logic!
    Sad, but one day our kids will have to visit museums to see what a lady looks like.

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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Joker View Post
    Because it made money, there will be more girl power Star War movies. If Star Wars makes money, other studios will do the same. For the next few years, we will drown in girl power movies. We will see She Hulk, She Thor, She Three Stooges.
    The Last Jedi is going to make a lot of money but there is a huge drop compared to Force Awakens. To be honest I think they can't hide what they did to the Star Wars franchise in Last Jedi unlike Force Awakens.

    Based on what I have seen so far many in the Star Wars fanbase is divided and demoralized.

    But further inspection the movie is a lot worse because:

    Rey sees some good in Kylo through a Force Bond, and goes on a quest to try to turn Kylo to the lightside aka woman's fantasy to fix a badboy.


    Pink Haired Gender studies General (Credit to Sargon of Arkad for that) is incompetent.

    Fin is basically a prop for a new woman hero lol. That is messed up as they were building him to be a credible character but Last Jedi reduces Fin to nothing.

    I could go on and on but the movie basically took a steaming pile of dump on Star Wars legacy. Not even Yoda was acting in accordance to his character throughout the history of the franchise in the Last Jedi.

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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    [QUOTE=Azure Nomad;111570]It is 50 Shades of Gray in space.

















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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    There still is no explanation how Mary Sue has so much power in a short period of time and how she is on par with the Skywalker family.
    Logic dictates that Ben Solo and Whatsername are brother and sister.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    The Force which is used and channeled based on choices has been corrupted by feels. Basically anyone can use the force now with little or no training. If you are female you are a natural at using the force (eg Leia Superman scene). She does have Skywalker lineage unlike Mary Sue but the training has never been explained or shown for her or Mary Sue.
    Of course not. Wimminz are naturally super powered by just laying there and being wimminz or pushing out babies. NISM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Luke Skywalker has been reduced to a man that can't accomplish anything while Mary Sue gets results.
    Rey shows a great force bond with a shirtless Kylo Ren. *Eye roll*
    Yup, because Ben Solo is likely to be revealed as her older brother. They will probably smooch later on in the series ala Clintons' tenure in the senate.
    You guys know that HRC legitimized first cousin marriage while she was a senator in NY? Google it for yourself. I saw it myself....

    As for the movie series, Kylo Ren (Chinese translation of Kylo Ren can mean "example of a bad person" if you say it perfectly...) and Rey
    (Doe a deer a female deer, rey a drop of golden sun) if you sing it perfectly,

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Kylo Ren tries to persuade a seemingly ordinary Rey to come with him. This is exactly how 50 shades of Gray plays out in the books and in the movies. A powerful, conflicted, sadistic, machiavellian man tries to lure a "nobody" woman like her. This is a classic fantasy for women.
    Could not agree more, brother. Liked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    I didn't bother seeing the movie and I can confirm from my family members that it is an epic tier trash. Star Wars is completely ruined.
    IMHO, Mark Hamil was so disappointed in this film that he will probably donate his brain to science over it.

    Walt Disney would not have approved of this debacle.

    Rep forthcoming, Azure.

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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Star Wars always sucked. Bad acting. Bad dialogue ("My hands are dirty" - barf!). Bad everything.

    Star Trek FTW.

    Dune, by Frank Herbert was the best Sci Fi had to offer, ever.

    IMHO.

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    Re: New Star Wars movie is epic gynocentric trash

    Quote Originally Posted by hellgorama View Post
    Its even worse -...
    Predictive programming, anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastPriory View Post
    Dune, by Frank Herbert was the best Sci Fi had to offer, ever.

    IMHO.
    1000% agree. I read all six of Frank's Dune books. I tried reading the ones his son wrote but I can't get into them. If they weren't written by the master they're not worth reading.
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