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    Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    https://www.cnbc.com/id/41872437

    You have to sort of read between the lines with this one...


    I think its more complex than that. Our economy is quickly becoming what people like to call a “knowledge economy,” in which the financial rewards for smart people who are really work oriented are tremendous. Smart women rationally respond to this by spending more time in school acquiring the tools they think they need in the knowledge economy, and once in the work force, working more and harder.


    So dumb chicks have both greater opportunities and greater incentives to try harder to date smart men than smart women do.

    Just on a literal level, it’s easier. Why don’t women do this too? Every alpha woman I know wants to be with a man who is as successful as her or more so. And coordinating that stuff is almost impossible. Why don’t they just date some beta male who works in a bookstore and will make dinner for them every night? Doesn’t every successful person—man or woman—see how that’s easier?

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    I read that quote and got the image of the rationalization hamster running mightily along. That hamster wheel needs roller bearings. The author carefully dances along the edges of what is acceptable to say while on the plantation. I suppose hinting at hypergamey is being edgy these days.

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    There’s no such thing as a “Alpha Women”, only “Alpha Cunts”.

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    Women date/mate across and up social hierarchies. Men date/mate across and down.
    Q: Why?
    A: Hypergamy.

    As stated, even the Alpha female will require an even more alpha male. If she works 18 hours a day he must work 22 hours a day and make $1M to her $500K.
    And they never see eachother and have these "let's just fuck and have an open relationship with no expectations" relationships because they both know that work comes first.

    Average men date below average women because:
    (a) they're still pretty good looking and down to fuck like higher-end models.
    (b) the line-up of guys trying to bed them is 100x shorter.
    (c) they SEEM to appreciate (or at least pretend to appreciate) being pampered.

    When you fuck an average woman 1 to 1.5 SMV points below you, as a man, you know you've made an excellent calculation and made a very smart choice. (As far as dumb-assed blue-pill choices go).
    If you demand a woman with equal physical SMV, and you're not overweight, you have 20 other guys in line for a whiff of that thing. You have to put serious time and effort into your datability - not just your SMV, but your dress, your availability and how much Cold hard C@$H you're willing to budget every month for blowing on bitches. The beta with the open wallet is far more fun and attractive than the beta on a budget. After all, at the end of the day, it's the BETA BUX that will keep her wet. You're sure as hell not there for ALPHA FUX.

    I've seen a few guys with that "shit eating smart guy grin" and he's a 7.5 with his 6 who used to be a 7 before she put on the baby weight.

    He's SOOOOOOOO SMART.

    But his odds of going through the divorce meat grinder are the same, if not worse.
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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    Quote Originally Posted by #Redpillbible View Post
    There’s no such thing as a “Alpha Women”, only “Alpha Cunts”.


    https://medium.com/thenewnorth/the-l...t-41f990992d6f
    ^^Too vague! That WANNABE comedian. The SELF-APPOINTED "alpha cunt" label is JUST THAT!!

    ANY true alpha dude would just be giggling her off INSTANTLY! (If under the influence of sodium pentathol)

    This admission of her NON-TRUTH is VERY laughable. She does NOT look nor act top tier ANYTHING. Unless it's "Wannabe Lesbo Biker Of The YEAR tm!"
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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    I agree Ace. These days, a woman with a gender-studies degree working in an HR department for $15 an hour thinks she's all ALPHA.
    Alpha female (to me) is pulling in $500K as a corporate lawyer, only dates men who've made partner, and you can grate cheese on her abs.
    Some of the women calling themselves alpha these days lolololol. I guess next to the emasculated simps and orbiters around them, they appear alpha!!
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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    I was originally just gonna say that women are alpha cunts without the link added, as in some are just bigger cunts than others. I just happen to find that article before I sent my post here and added it on, I typed on the internet, alpha cunt, and that article came up and decided to add it to my post. Upon looking at that article, I really think it’s a joke somebody made, some sort of clickbait. There are no alpha women, just alpha cunts, and not in the cool way a women(cunt) thinks it means.
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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    Because you dont fuck brain you fuck that ass

    Men feel uncomfortable enough around women in general so when she is way above you i dont think sex is on your mind .

    Smart women = lonely women and they use male escorts my guess .
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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    Smart women is an oxymoron.

    What men think is smart is the rational, innovative, problem solving, money making and world changing thinking.

    What woman ever did that?

    They are "practical beings", therefore they will do nothing new or innovative. Because nobody did it (its not socially proven/accepted) and its practicality is unknown.

    Thus "smart" women suffer an intelectual dual personality. On one side the rational intelectualized personality, on the other the irrational, emotional and drama seeking personality. It is inevitable that they get neurotic.

    Thus "smart" women are generally bat shit crazy. I have a smart daughter, and she is bat shit crazy.

    Thus smart men look for stable women, and they are not the "smart" ones.

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    The corollary of my previous post is:

    RUN AWAY FROM "SMART" WOMEN!

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    As usual, they are looking at it from completely the wrong angle. They see the effect, and mistake it for the cause.

    First of all, how is intelligence judged? It is assumed that people who are highly successful (ie doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc) are smart people. This is CLEARLY implied in the article. So for the purposes of this discussion, smart = successful and dumb = not successful.

    Okay, so then the question becomes: Why do SUCCESSFUL men date UNSUCCESSFUL women? And when you correctly rephrase it, you realize the answer is simple.

    Successful men date unsuccessful women because successful men can date basically anyone they want. They want women who are young, attractive, beautiful, and fertile. Women who are young and attractive never need to become successful or have careers, because they are taken care of. Not only by the rich men they marry (and divorce) but by virtually every man in society. They will find every single man they meet to be quite generous.

    The not-so-subtle intent of this article is yet another attempt to shame men for not dating "smart" (aka successful) women. The reasons why men DON'T want to date these women are simple. For starters, these women tend to be less attractive, which is why they had to work hard to become successful in the first place. They tend to be hyper-masculine, competitive, and domineering women, which makes them even less attractive. Finally, they are married to their careers, and probably do not want kids until they are at the end of their fertility. Even if they do successfully have kids who don't have autism or down's sydrome, they still make shitty mothers, because they will be at work instead of with the kids. And they make shitty wives for the same reasons.

    So there you have it. The real reason why smart men date "dumb" women.

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post
    As usual, they are looking at it from completely the wrong angle. They see the effect, and mistake it for the cause.

    First of all, how is intelligence judged? It is assumed that people who are highly successful (ie doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc) are smart people. This is CLEARLY implied in the article. So for the purposes of this discussion, smart = successful and dumb = not successful.

    Okay, so then the question becomes: Why do SUCCESSFUL men date UNSUCCESSFUL women? And when you correctly rephrase it, you realize the answer is simple.

    Successful men date unsuccessful women because successful men can date basically anyone they want. They want women who are young, attractive, beautiful, and fertile. Women who are young and attractive never need to become successful or have careers, because they are taken care of. Not only by the rich men they marry (and divorce) but by virtually every man in society. They will find every single man they meet to be quite generous.

    The not-so-subtle intent of this article is yet another attempt to shame men for not dating "smart" (aka successful) women. The reasons why men DON'T want to date these women are simple. For starters, these women tend to be less attractive, which is why they had to work hard to become successful in the first place. They tend to be hyper-masculine, competitive, and domineering women, which makes them even less attractive. Finally, they are married to their careers, and probably do not want kids until they are at the end of their fertility. Even if they do successfully have kids who don't have autism or down's sydrome, they still make shitty mothers, because they will be at work instead of with the kids. And they make shitty wives for the same reasons.

    So there you have it. The real reason why smart men date "dumb" women.
    There are couple of other ways to have a real career without being smart . Especially for women

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    It just sounds to me like some woman's mad that another woman--who looks better than her--is getting better dick.

    "It's NOT FAIR!!!". .allegedly that better looking chicks are getting better looking guys. (as IF that NEVER happens to us men in regards to chicks that we want!)

    Somebody BETTER call me THE WAMBULENCE...

    Once AGAIN, the (ficticious) PATRIARCHY strikes. It's WAAAaaAAPE!...

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    I wouldn't go as far to say as I'd date a dumb girl but they're way more fun and not so try hardy as smart women. These college debt, liberal degree chicks constantly want to feel superior and even though they would want a man, they don't know how to act submissive at all. It's basically the same spectrum as a nerd having bad luck with women because they lack the masculinity to attain one. Smart women tend to be bitches most of the time and I ain't in the mood to be constantly belittled by a woman with a higher education level than me when I could just get with a not so smart but cool to be around woman with basic knowledge.

    Hence I said date or fool around with. None of these women are marriage material. Basic knowledge girls are known to be thots and Smart women are thots that are at least clever enough to be covert with their thottery but you can only conceal that for so long.

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    Smart women are thots that are at least clever enough to be covert with their thottery but you can only conceal that for so long.
    There is no such thing as a dumb women. They have developed social intelligence which far far far exceeds any men I know. Get any teenage girl and she will understand social dynamics better than a 60 yr old, male CEO.

    Is intelligence attractive to men? If a woman is intelligent, why is it a turn off for most men?

    I can tell you for sure that for me, intelligence is sexy and when I spend time with an educated woman and have intellectually stimulating conversations; it is usually very satisfying. And if she is even modestly good looking and kinky in bed (less intelligent women tend to be less kinky) that is a real turn on.

    But the intelligence most females I encounter have, is that of a so called 'Liberal' one. They are some kind of SJW, read a few books on some French intellectuals like Derrida or Sartre, and they are very very mediocre in they mentality.

    I was dating a feminist chick for a while and she couldn't believe that I enjoyed reading Ayn Rand! It was just unfathomable that I would enjoy reading a novel by someone with libertarian leanings. It was almost a sacrilege for her.

    In my experience, the aforementioned 'modern, SJW types' of whom some are really attractive are actually ANTI-SEX.

    What I mean by that is they have such a skewed view on masculinity and hate men so much that they would have sex with women just to make a political statement. This was actually done in the 70s,80s as a way of 'protesting'. And even married white knight manginas were in support of it.

    Which leads me to my main point and as a man, the one thing which I do not want is some female (regardless if she is or isn't attractive) to be anti-sex and see sex as a form of power-play. That is really bitter, and bitterness is not attractive, not sexy at all.

    The political and social viewpoints aside, when I am attracted to a woman and want to enjoy her sexually, I really do not at all want to spend time 'guessing' what she wants from the relationship and how she sees me.

    It's quite simple, if you are interested, make it clear and when a man initiates contact and shows interest, and assuming you yourself is interested in the man sexually, then take the next step and make yourself sexually available.

    If you power - play, then it is over in an instant; because that shit is just unattractive. Maybe in little doses, teasing here and there, making yourself unavailable for a short while to increase sexual tension, sure there is a time and place for that. But to outright manipulate and make sex into politics, then it's a no thanks from me.

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    The problem when it comes of "intelligence" is that many girls measure it with who creates more arguments and who contradict the most whatever the other is saying, many see intelligence as the ability to find flaws in other people opinion or even "lecturing" them from a leftist point of view.

    Its unbelievable how women engineer that can really create stuff and solve problems are hardy polemic and litigious while women with a SJW backround make a point of breaking rapport anytime they can thinking it makes them appear smart.

    Also reading some dumb fvck who was smoking dope in the XVIII century and coming up with some random political delirium and being able to parrot his line, surely isnt a sign of intelligence.

    One of the many things intelligent people do is shut up when necessary and avoid conflict when there is nothing to gain.

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    I think its more complex than that. Our economy is quickly becoming what people like to call a “knowledge economy,” in which the financial rewards for smart people who are really work oriented are tremendous. Smart women rationally respond to this by spending more time in school acquiring the tools they think they need in the knowledge economy, and once in the work force, working more and harder.
    It's difficult to be wronger than this. Computers are taking over "knowledge" jobs, and particularly any job that relies on what women excel at: rote learning. A huge chunk of those cushy office jobs have dissipated and will never return. No-one needs a secretary anymore: we have Microsoft Outlook. What isn't disappearing is trades. The economy isn't becoming a knowledge economy - this has already happened.

    The rewards for being really work oriented mainly involve being screwed in the ass by an ungrateful corporation. Loyalty is not rewarded. You have four different managers to report to (project manager, line manager, personnel manager, career development manager), and they get shuffled around every six months as part of the process of the executive covering its ass and hiding the bodies. Your boss's boss maybe knows who you are. No-one above that does. Everyone who matters refers to you as a "resource". "We need more resources on this project".

    And anyway, your boss doesn't determine your compensation. Personnel does. Even if your boss wanted to reward your hard work with actual money, they can't do it. They have a budget. "Working more and harder" is not the way to success. I doubt it ever was. Money goes to bullshitters. Con men. Fraudsters. Hustlers.

    And women don't stay in school as a rational choice. Not anymore. In the USA, college used to be the royal road to a good job because fewer people went to college. Now, it's a moneymaking scam. Women go to college because they like being in school. The gossip, the intrigue, the fucking (lord yes, the fucking), and not really having to adult up just yet.

    Comprehensively wrong. One lie after another. Overlapping compressed lies.

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Comprehensively wrong. One lie after another. Overlapping compressed lies.
    IE: The Matrix

    Totally great post. Every part of that is true except for one thing... They still need secretary's as a meat-shield to deflect calls and blame for problems. I worked for the state for 11 years, and that's what I was... a glorified meat-shield.
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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Francis View Post
    Unless it's "Wannabe Lesbo Biker Of The YEAR tm!"
    I think that is exactly what she was aiming for, and she was quite successful. It's nice to see old ladies achieving their goals.
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

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    Re: Why Do Smart Men Date Dumb Girls?

    When you guys find a woman without a brain, just a brain stem for basic life functions (breathing, heart beat, vitals) I'll start dating again!


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