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    anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    Like a fraternal mgtow club that is members only?

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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    It would be really cool for sure. My main worry is that it would immediately attract negative attention and get shut down due to complains of "misogyny". Currently it seems like everyone is looking at groups of men getting together without women as a complete joke. Not just that, but then extremely harmful to boot.

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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    The forum is just fine for me. I'm not pushing for social clubs. This will do.

    I think we got something good going with the forums we have. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    Quote Originally Posted by Da Patriarch View Post
    The forum is just fine for me. I'm not pushing for social clubs. This will do.

    I think we got something good going with the forums we have. If it ain't broke don't fix it!
    I think the internet based component of MGTOW and other men's movements has been vital. Since you can't criticize this shit in public, the internet gives it a place to grow and mature. Mainstream publications are becoming more aware, but men can take action on an individual basis while knowing that tons of other men are coming to the same conclusions about women and society. It's not like we're hiding, but it helps with the surprise element - actions speak louder than words. The 70% unmarried stat of men from ages 20-35 shows that something is happening, and it doesn't have to be out in the mainstream to make a huge impact. Personally, I see more blue pill behavior than ever, but I think this is because I'm aware of it. I'm also seeing men in general not immediately bowing to women. Like when I was in high school in the 90, it was full speed ahead - whore out your beta self to the max in hopes of a scrap. Now it seems to be changing

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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    I think the internet based component of MGTOW and other men's movements has been vital. Since you can't criticize this shit in public, the internet gives it a place to grow and mature. Mainstream publications are becoming more aware, but men can take action on an individual basis while knowing that tons of other men are coming to the same conclusions about women and society. It's not like we're hiding, but it helps with the surprise element - actions speak louder than words. The 70% unmarried stat of men from ages 20-35 shows that something is happening, and it doesn't have to be out in the mainstream to make a huge impact. Personally, I see more blue pill behavior than ever, but I think this is because I'm aware of it. I'm also seeing men in general not immediately bowing to women. Like when I was in high school in the 90, it was full speed ahead - whore out your beta self to the max in hopes of a scrap. Now it seems to be changing
    That's why I dropped out of social media altogether. It's irritating as shit and I consider this forum to be my home. I can discuss my views with men who have the same awareness. At this point, I'm doing my best to ghost myself from blue pill behavior because it drives me mad. The bachelor nation article made me so happy I got fucking piss drunk that same night. Not all these men claimed to be MGTOW in the comments, ether. Some of these men are just observing what they see and reacting to the current situation. Critical thinking is on the rise and that makes me rejoice. It's time to bring cat cunts inc. down!
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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    I think the major reason for discussing MGTOW on a forum is because of some level of anonymity. Another reason would be we are still pretty small and spread out across the world. This however does not mean that you cannot set up a meet and greet with some of the members that are nearby you. I know a couple of people here have my phone number and they know that they can call me. Just remember that most of us have busy lives, so planning a meet and greet should be done with plenty of time to make arrangements. Another thing is that you will also want to make it in an area were most MGTOW's won't have to spend much on travel.

    Things like having a social club or fraternity is damn sure not the way to go. Aside from our numbers being too low, by having an address it puts us on the radar. Another thing is that with an address we can now be targeted as either a sexist or hate group (even though we are not). You see if a bunch of us meet in a hotel lobby or even rent a banquet room, then we are still untouchable for the most part. A members only policy is a tough one to regulate also. Once again, get caught with a MGTOW card on you and see how well you are treated at work or by the police. Something like that it would be best to do what the Free Masons did which was secret handshakes and such. MGTOW is off to a good start right now and are numbers are growing. Right now our strength is in our dispersed individualism.
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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    It wouldn't be cool if 30 thousand guys showed up at a Tim's at 2 in the afternoon on a Sunday.

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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Deer View Post
    It wouldn't be cool if 30 thousand guys showed up at a Tim's at 2 in the afternoon on a Sunday.
    And ordering so many Timbits and coffee that the place would run out? Why, that would be a national catastrophe!
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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    I have no doubt that any attempt at this sort of thing would result in a court challenge in most countries ordering the club to either allow women to join or close down... you need to always keep firmly in mind that only women are allowed private clubs that are free of the opposite gender, you know because women would never talk poorly about people behind their backs, while men need to be supervised at all times lest they plot to overrun a Tim's and drain it of all it's inventory... or something equally horrific.
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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    I checked for mgtow at meetup.com in My area and found nothing. That's an option if you want to head up a local group. Unless you're in a huge man hating town like Toronto, you may not have many members

    I've seen women only meetups

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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    it would help if it was a self help group like divorced men helping men. I was in AA and they have a mens only group that still has women show up from time to time because " Hey, ! What's the difference?"

    I for my self don't feel safe to meet in public only to be harassed by the RCMP. My family is already on the radar for being Irish and a past member of an Irish supporters club. I joined cuz they had a pool table and cheap Guinness.

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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    Quote Originally Posted by ATLien View Post
    I checked for mgtow at meetup.com in My area and found nothing. That's an option if you want to head up a local group. Unless you're in a huge man hating town like Toronto, you may not have many members

    I've seen women only meetups
    There is an "Open Circle for Men" at Meetup.com in Sacramento, California. I have no idea what percentage of them are MGTOW. I live about 30 miles from Sacramento, but I never went. I very much prefer online forum where I can sift and sort what I read, whenever I feel like reading MGTOW stuff, then a physical forum where I would have to hear everything, whether I am interested in it or not.

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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prisoner View Post
    I think the major reason for discussing MGTOW on a forum is because of some level of anonymity. Another reason would be we are still pretty small and spread out across the world. This however does not mean that you cannot set up a meet and greet with some of the members that are nearby you. I know a couple of people here have my phone number and they know that they can call me. Just remember that most of us have busy lives, so planning a meet and greet should be done with plenty of time to make arrangements. Another thing is that you will also want to make it in an area were most MGTOW's won't have to spend much on travel.

    Things like having a social club or fraternity is damn sure not the way to go. Aside from our numbers being too low, by having an address it puts us on the radar. Another thing is that with an address we can now be targeted as either a sexist or hate group (even though we are not). You see if a bunch of us meet in a hotel lobby or even rent a banquet room, then we are still untouchable for the most part. A members only policy is a tough one to regulate also. Once again, get caught with a MGTOW card on you and see how well you are treated at work or by the police. Something like that it would be best to do what the Free Masons did which was secret handshakes and such. MGTOW is off to a good start right now and are numbers are growing. Right now our strength is in our dispersed individualism.
    The Prisoner nails it on all counts. MGTOW as a social trend is a "hot button" for a lot of mainstream idiocrats; "coming out as a MGTOW" may be as risky as "coming out as gay" was, back at the start of Gay Pride. If we count this forum alone, we have a bit more than 1000 registered members, and we're spread worldwide. We may have a few points where several members are living close to each other, such as (hypothetically) New York, Los Angeles, Toronto, London, or Sydney; I'm not advocating for this, but if you added your nearest city as your "Location," others who live nearby could PM you, and you could meet up for a couple of brewskis.

    Having an address is problematic on several levels. If you've got a clubhouse, it can be closed down for any of numerous reasons by your local government, and if you say that membership is "men-only," busybodies of all stripes will collude to shut it down. If the club owns property, it's subject to forfeiture, and in the case of a lawsuit or a lien, the members' own finances might be put at risk, too.

    I am a member of a men-only club which I'll call "The Old Pilots' Fraternity." It's a US-national organization with chapters in 48 states plus the District of Columbia. It's able to keep its men-only tradition because (1) we keep to ourselves; (2) membership is by invitation only; (3) very few of the local chapters own any real property like clubhouses - they meet in restaurants, in rented meeting rooms, or in the airplane hangars of their members; and (4) there is a corresponding women-only organization which is much better known - the "Ninety-Nines."
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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    Actually BeijaFlor you hit the proper wording to avoid a lot of grief from the 'fairer sex'.

    MGTOW Fraternity / Secret Society: National Organization



    • Invitation only
    • Coordinated across various MGTOW boards [if possible]
    • Membership requirements are NOT published
      • [but they may be something like a prospect must have
        • 500+ posts in a MGTOW board OR
        • 4 articles written via blog or alternate media site OR
        • 2-3 youtube videos totaling more than 20 minutes of lecture / exposition]

    • Leverages existing real estate / private home functions to avoid clubhouse issues OR eventually it just has one property in the distance that is not marked / labelled in anyway.
    • Possibly collects dues(?) to help promote MGTOW / schedule events / cover some admin overhead.
      • And before people go wait a second I'm not paying for shit ....
      • If you're willing to do P4P to enjoy risk free company with a woman, wouldn't you be willing to pony up for a group of like minded men who can become a peer / support organization for you??


    If MGTOW's want to organize it would have to be effectively a secret society. Like a curmudgeon / ghost / MGTOW version of the Masons.

    Give it some thought and post some feedback men.
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    Re: anyone ever thought about a real social club?

    "MGTOW Masons" - I like that. Not that I am a Freemason.

    My local chapter of "The Old Pilots' Fraternity" meets once a month, either at an airport or at a rented meeting room. We have a Happy Hour, then a catered dinner, then a few minutes' worth of "business meeting," then more happy hour; the price is a little more than enough to cover the caterer, the room rental, and beer and ice. Typically we'll have two dozen or so members, visitors from other chapters, and (a couple of) guests. Are we likely to get a similar-size group for a MGTOW meeting? For now, I'd be surprised! I think we'd be more likely to draw three or four, at first.

    Primus Pilus, you list your location as "Texas." That includes a huge span of territory. If you included your nearest major metropolitan area - let's use "San Antonio" as an example, for sentimental reasons (Remember The Alamo!) - and you invited "neighbors" on this board to PM you about a meetup, you might find there are a couple of others who are interested and are close enough to make it practical. (What is close enough? Kerrville? Austin? Houston?)

    I think meetups would be nice, but "organize" may be a bridge too far. I believe that any "groups" would have to be local, and the members would be wise to keep it to themselves. Beyond that - I live in the Washington-Baltimore region; if anyone there is interested in a meetup, shoot me a PM.
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