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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

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    Tradcons have an agenda. Study shows that in general single women vote Democrat. Married women tend to vote Republican. So Conservatives push marriage. Hard!

    Expect to see more of this. More shaming. More tax cuts for married people.
    Not necessarily a bad thing. Ward Cleaver paid to support his wife and children: the resultant nuclear family puts restraints on women's consumer spending; the children grow up to be productive, independent, healthy, functional citizens; the family members are happy; and there is less need for government programs.

    The progressives unleash the feminists on us. They are corrosive to the nuclear family. The children are a mess; men and women are at war with each other; members of both genders spend a fortune purchasing the "plumage" to attract a mate, but lack the upbringing to keep one; everyone is unhappy; and government is an assembly line of cures for the problems it creates.

    Ward Cleaver only paid for his wife and kids. Today, if he is married he pays for his family AND another, fatherless single parent family being "raised" by a welfare mother married to the state. Being single just means you pay for one family only. The crotch fruit of such unions are future customers for the social worker, the police officer, the coroner, the ambulance driver, the corrections officer, the politician, the "community organizer," etc., etc.

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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Does this guy know that women play games as well, why doesn't he go and shame them for playing games instead of being "good women"? Why doesn't he shame women back into...I don't know...what they were like in the 1950's? He can't expect men to do something and women to not. It's goddamned double standards.
    Marriage is like Russian Roulette. Except your wife put in two more bullets and the death the bullets deliver won't be quick or painless.

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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by Nasir Jones View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ldVYSeBTqE

    PragerU is back at it again with the fuckery. Just in case you needed a reminder that traditionalism is man-enslavment watch this garbage.
    They also end the video by saying "if all the slackers in the world disappeared, the video game industry would die". The guys there must live such a boring and workhorse life to not even be able to play video games. I'm month away from graduating engineering school and I play video games all the time. Fuck you.

    tfm made a great response to this btw.
    My videos games total in my life is like 30 minutes but whats the difference in playing video games a lot and reading encyclopedia a lot . There is zero . What good is knowing who was the second wife of Plato ? Only that both were bitches
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by Da Ma-Niac View Post
    Does this guy know that women play games as well, why doesn't he go and shame them for playing games instead of being "good women"? Why doesn't he shame women back into...I don't know...what they were like in the 1950's? He can't expect men to do something and women to not. It's goddamned double standards.
    "Who's the more foolish? The Fool? Or the Fool that follows him?" -- Obi-wan "Ben" Kenobi

    EDIT:
    I think this taffer never watched "Married with children" or "king of queens"... in those, men (especially husbands and fathers) are portrayed as buffoons and bumbling idiots.. and no-one with half a brain cell wants to be associated with that...
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by Hesiod View Post
    Ward Cleaver is an obedient slave, and a MUG of the highest order, breeding and having a wife does not constitute being an adult. BTW he's Blue, a very apt colour.

    @ around 3min into the video it gives a whole list of what Women want, lets assess the never ending WANTS list....

    Reliable
    Trustworthy
    Smart
    Confident .... but not smug (just the right amount)
    Funny and capable at laughing at himself
    Successful at work but not a workaholic
    Loves her children but is not a child himself
    Devoted to her family

    Holy fuck, and what exactly do you bring to the table I ask myself? apart from being a meat hole and depreciating asset.

    .
    When you look at the paterfamilias of the shows "Father Knows Best," "Leave it to Beaver," and "The Donna Reed Show," it could be argued that they were men who experienced peak conditions for husbands and fathers. They had steady work in a stable and growing economy. They lived in a world where the economy, government, and society worked, and their wives didn't have to. They could buy and pay off a home, have secure pension and social security systems, save money, go on vacation, and do things that some of us could only dream of.

    And they were respected...by their communities, by their children, and by their wives.

    What did their wives bring to the table? Their wives were:

    Reliable
    Trustworthy
    Smart
    Runs the home, but doesn't run her husband
    Funny and capable at laughing at herself
    Sexy in the bedroom, but not a whore
    Loves her children but is not a child herself, and not at the expense of her husband
    Devoted to her family

    As husbands, as fathers, as working men, as citizens, the era between 1950 and 1975 were years when men never had it better in the United States.
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    The way the economic conditions are and the job market is basically making people poorer and working longer hours. It is not sustainable.

    You work, and work and next thing you know you are in the hospital. Your employer has you on a tight leash, only way to deal with this leash is basically to stay single, save money, and only engage in relationships which bring a net benefit. That will keep women out specifically because they are (at least in the modern world) a liability not an asset. This must also include a large section of men who are blue-pilled.

    Blue-pillers will also ruin your life by slowly infecting you with 'hope'.

    What is a 50,000 annual wage (which is way way above average) in a city like London? Most of it gets taxed (to provide for single mother cunts) and the rest goes on rent, healthcare, transport. What ever is left is spent on a few bottles of whisky, food, cigars and probably on a holiday once a year (if you are lucky). If you have some leftover, then you spend it on some escort to relieve yourself sexually, because most women are so mentally unhealthy they don't even want to engage in exciting sex.

    But in my experience, the real issue is that men are stupid and ignorant. They think by competing and working harder they can get what they want from life, women, cars, house. When it is the exact opposite, you have to keep your cards close to your chest and always, always, always demand more.

    And because people are ignorant and can't put two and two together, they lay all the blame on corporations and 'capitalism' and advocate for 'equality' = socialism/communism which will make men even less incentivised to work harder. Socialism eventually ends up in groups competing with each other for goodies. You have a good example in the states. Every group is asking for some assistance. Black Lesbian Alliance, Non-binary and transgender this and that group, and it ends up in a society where the one who shouts loudest gets all the goodies.

    And meanwhile, the average, decent, hardworking and honest man; what I refer to as the 'everyday man' is treated like shit and has no rights.

    I mean for FUCK SAKE, why is it so hard to understand the concept that human beings respond to incentives?
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

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    I mean for FUCK SAKE, why is it so hard to understand the concept that human beings respond to incentives?
    Because that might inconvenience somebody with a vagina...
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by devilcomeknockin View Post
    Because that might inconvenience somebody with a vagina...
    No, I contend that there were puppet-masters at work here. The working man and his family "had it too good," and the elites wanted to break him.

    Why would "The Feminine Mystique" be published to convince middle class, suburban housewives in stable homes, stable marriages, and a stable economy that somehow they were miserable? And that the only way to remedy that was to decide that the men who made this all possible were their gender enemy? At a time when their predecessors of WWII, the Great Depression, the settling of the frontier would have been so envious of how easy and safe and convenient that current crop of woman had it?

    Why would the main remedy be pushing millions of women into the workforce? When the natural consequence of deploying this "reserve army of labor" would be to depress the wages of both men and women? And create a generation of feral children? And put our families into debt? And make the corporations rich while our streets would become unsafe?

    And why did our "war on poverty" devolve into a war on the African American nuclear family?

    I could go on, but it is very obvious to me, it was all part of a plan.
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    The way the economic conditions are and the job market is basically making people poorer and working longer hours. It is not sustainable.

    You work, and work and next thing you know you are in the hospital. Your employer has you on a tight leash, only way to deal with this leash is basically to stay single, save money, and only engage in relationships which bring a net benefit. That will keep women out specifically because they are (at least in the modern world) a liability not an asset. This must also include a large section of men who are blue-pilled.

    Blue-pillers will also ruin your life by slowly infecting you with 'hope'.

    And meanwhile, the average, decent, hardworking and honest man; what I refer to as the 'everyday man' is treated like shit and has no rights.

    I mean for FUCK SAKE, why is it so hard to understand the concept that human beings respond to incentives?
    And that is why so many of us viewed the Prager video as a sham. It was asking men to come back to the plantation for a game of soccer, not acknowledging that the soccer pitch had been turned into a minefield. It was so weak in the spots where the video was making the case for how the man benefits from marriage, and ignored the risks.
    What makes you happy? What brings you joy? What lifts your spirit? What tickles your fancy? What complements your mood? What catches your eye? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=durbQ7nVfQ8

    How do you look out for someone you love? How do you shelter their dreams? How do you cherish their innocence? How do you guide them through life? How do you watch over their travels? How do you show them you care? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd8PLHa6ec8

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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Also, the Prager video neglected to mention that most taxpaying men are already working to support a family, even if the man is single, even if the man has never met the woman. And that family who has their hands in his wallet is Uncle Sugar and his welfare single mom vote slave.
    What makes you happy? What brings you joy? What lifts your spirit? What tickles your fancy? What complements your mood? What catches your eye? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=durbQ7nVfQ8

    How do you look out for someone you love? How do you shelter their dreams? How do you cherish their innocence? How do you guide them through life? How do you watch over their travels? How do you show them you care? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd8PLHa6ec8

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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    The way the economic conditions are and the job market is basically making people poorer and working longer hours. It is not sustainable.

    You work, and work and next thing you know you are in the hospital. Your employer has you on a tight leash, only way to deal with this leash is basically to stay single, save money, and only engage in relationships which bring a net benefit. That will keep women out specifically because they are (at least in the modern world) a liability not an asset. This must also include a large section of men who are blue-pilled.

    Blue-pillers will also ruin your life by slowly infecting you with 'hope'.

    What is a 50,000 annual wage (which is way way above average) in a city like London? Most of it gets taxed (to provide for single mother cunts) and the rest goes on rent, healthcare, transport. What ever is left is spent on a few bottles of whisky, food, cigars and probably on a holiday once a year (if you are lucky). If you have some leftover, then you spend it on some escort to relieve yourself sexually, because most women are so mentally unhealthy they don't even want to engage in exciting sex.

    But in my experience, the real issue is that men are stupid and ignorant. They think by competing and working harder they can get what they want from life, women, cars, house. When it is the exact opposite, you have to keep your cards close to your chest and always, always, always demand more.

    And because people are ignorant and can't put two and two together, they lay all the blame on corporations and 'capitalism' and advocate for 'equality' = socialism/communism which will make men even less incentivised to work harder. Socialism eventually ends up in groups competing with each other for goodies. You have a good example in the states. Every group is asking for some assistance. Black Lesbian Alliance, Non-binary and transgender this and that group, and it ends up in a society where the one who shouts loudest gets all the goodies.

    And meanwhile, the average, decent, hardworking and honest man; what I refer to as the 'everyday man' is treated like shit and has no rights.

    I mean for FUCK SAKE, why is it so hard to understand the concept that human beings respond to incentives?
    Money supply is controlled to the pennies . It makes no difference how much taxes get collected . Your living conditions are pre-decided years in advance .

    Its weird to believe that he most important control tool is left unattended .

    Its like believing that online poker is real and nobody can see all the cards

    Another thing is that people are only wising up to an industrial capitalism lol supply and demand and free market economy lol and competition lol .

    When its already finance capitalism of companies that operate tens of trillions long ago . Its only smooth so far because the guys that have all the money in the world cant come up with a new game .

    When you have all the money , fucked all the hottest chicks they are probably thinking how the fuck to drink all that booze . Too much dedication and Russians probably already did it
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Just think, Betty Friedan's book was published just a few years after women had to worry if they had enough coupons in their government issued book to buy a whole chicken that month, if their husbands or sons or brothers were going to survive the war, and whether there would ever being enough housing stock available to move out of their parent's apartment.

    What do women want?
    "More."

    "More of what? Doesn't matter. Just start working on getting for me while I decide what I want."

    "If I'm not safe, make me feel safe.

    If I feel safe, make me feel healthy.

    If I get enough medical care, work on my other survival needs.

    When I got those, I want luxury.

    When I have luxury, keep me entertained.

    When I get bored with entertainment, make me feel important.

    When I feel important, make me feel loved.

    When I am loved, make me feel desired.

    When I have everything I desire, I'll think of new things that I want, and you must provide...
    ....because I can't let you rest, I can't let you stop trying to satisfy my latest whim.

    It is the only thing that fills the emptiness inside me....that, and anti-depressants."

    The last thing the hypochondriac wants to hear is that the hospital is closed for the day.
    They don't want to be cured....they want the attention.
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Just think, Betty Friedan's book was published just a few years after women had to worry if they had enough coupons in their government issued book to buy a whole chicken that month, if their husbands or sons or brothers were going to survive the war, and whether there would ever being enough housing stock available to move out of their parent's apartment.

    What do women want?
    "More."

    "More of what? Doesn't matter. Just start working on getting for me while I decide what I want."

    "If I'm not safe, make me feel safe.

    If I feel safe, make me feel healthy.

    If I get enough medical care, work on my other survival needs.

    When I got those, I want luxury.

    When I have luxury, keep me entertained.

    When I get bored with entertainment, make me feel important.

    When I feel important, make me feel loved.

    When I am loved, make me feel desired.

    When I have everything I desire, I'll think of new things that I want, and you must provide...
    ....because I can't let you rest, I can't let you stop trying to satisfy my latest whim.

    It is the only thing that fills the emptiness inside me....that, and anti-depressants."

    The last thing the hypochondriac wants to hear is that the hospital is closed for the day.
    They don't want to be cured....they want the attention.
    Men are exactly the same with the difference that vast majority are dirt poor and have zero status, and know it . Vast majority dont even dream about anything because they know they cant afford it .

    But when you have money and looks , and status ... you want to climb Everest to compensate for small dick and successfully die there

    People would have died off long ago if it was ever enough when you can afford shit .
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    It was asking men to come back to the plantation for a game of soccer, not acknowledging that the soccer pitch had been turned into a minefield. It was so weak in the spots where the video was making the case for how the man benefits from marriage, and ignored the risks.
    I would also wager that tradcons hate men. They are literally telling men to work hard and die for some ungrateful cunt!

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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    I mean for FUCK SAKE, why is it so hard to understand the concept that human beings respond to incentives?
    Simple: There are no human beings. Women are goddesses, men are tools. /s
    Last edited by Zoidberg; May 6, 2019 at 6:40 AM.

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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg View Post
    Simple: There are no human beings. Women are goddesses, man are tools. /s
    Men are tools that take pride in being fools !

    And if someone likes being fooled - let them !
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Men are tools that take pride in being fools !

    And if someone likes being fooled - let them !
    Never fool yourself that other men are your friends and will have your back .

    Given power women are just as evil as men .

    With the difference that women can unite for the cause . Men cant .
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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    How much does big business and big gubbermint have to gain from this indoctrination? Everything.

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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Prager makes the same mistake I generally attribute to liberals. They try to live in the world as it should be, not how it actually is.

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    Re: PragerU: A man accepts that marraige and fatherhood is the life of an adult. and that's what makes him a man

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    Prager makes the same mistake I generally attribute to liberals. They try to live in the world as it should be, not how it actually is.
    Its going on for at least 50 years . Thats why youth is fucked . They worry about things that they cant change or the ones that do not even exist .

    And totally oblivious to the most important ones that they have control over .
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