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    Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comme...72&sh=c0db90bb

    I couldn't read the text on that link properly so Ive copied and pasted it here just in case others have the same issue.

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    How my fully vetted, carefully screened, law student/unicorn girlfriend was secretly a prostitute and how a watch saved my life.
    Inside Edition

    TLDR; Read the title again.

    First let me say I think it's extremely important we men share our horror stories, pics, memes and keep talking here on MTGOW about how awful women are, whether seriously or with funny stuff. We have new members daily, younger members with questions and advice concerns and I think we need to keep the fires and the anger stoked... keep fresh in our minds how women, their stupidity, selfishness, and hate can ruin men's lives.

    Too often we can be red pill but forget how monstrous women can truly be, or we harbor a little space hoping we can find just one that can make us happy, if we could just find her. But let's keep. reminding other members, it doesn't exist, it never did and it never will....

    Here is my story as more proof.

    The Setup I was a red pill reader and follower on various forums, but not yet fully MGTOW. I knew red flags to watch for, not giving in to a woman's silly childish needs, and staying alpha and strong. At this point in my life I was more or less subscribing to the PUA community and mind set; playing on women's weaknesses to get laid and have fun. Then entered Lisa...my first, only, and last "unicorn".

    I met Lisa on the Bumble dating app. She was a law student, pretty, and into motorcycle riding, crossfit, video games... every single hobby I loved. She was basically a dude mindset in a hot girl with a nice rack. She didn't exhibit all the bullshit needy things most women did, she seemed strong, independent, self sufficient and intelligent. We went on a few dates and she never showed any signs or warnings that I had read about or experienced in my past, things were as good as you could ever dream of and we really cared for each other. As time went on, our feelings grew.

    We dated for about a year, and she never brought up love or needing more than what we had. Things were just good and she let them be what they were; she never wanted money, would often split the date costs or sometimes treat me, and was damn near everything a guy would describe as perfect.
    Her lease on her apartment ran out and we mutually discussed her moving it with me. We had been together for about a year so far. To me, it felt like living with a guy best friend except I had access to the hot pussy and half my rent covered. I knew I had strong feelings at this point, and she said the same, but I'm a smart red pill, I never showed it, didn't white knight or have any blue pill habits. I figured she could move in, I'd save half on rent/utilities, I'd be living with my best friend and sexy times were still going great... so I said "fuck it" and she moved in with me.

    Over the course of the next few months, things were amazing. We went to the gym together, cooked dinner, hiked, rode motorcycles, and just enjoyed life as best friends that fucked and slept in the same bed...again everything you could want from a woman. There were no new red flags or warning signs and the sex didn't taper off, she wasn't a party girl, always wanted to hang out with me and our mutual friends, and let me do as I pleased without nagging... nothing gave me any warning for what was to come. We were even sharing I love you's at this point but not too mushy, just a few here and there.

    The Escalation She had a conference in NYC for school and was going to be gone for a week. She was from NYC so she mentioned she would be tacking on a couple days to her trip to see her mom. No problem, off she went and I'd see her in a week. She messaged and we talked like normal and she said she missed me and couldn't wait to get home and wanted to maybe take our relationship to the next level as being apart made her realize how important I was to her. Not sure what next level was, but I was happy to hear it from her, it validated the feeling we had was mutual.

    After her return, things were still great, we were happy, and life was looking up. Many in the PUA community say that if you are careful, maintain a strong frame and make it clear you're the man and are controlling the direction of your relationship, you can still find a girl you can marry or be happy with. My mind started imagining this girl could maybe make me believe in love again. I started to consider proposing.
    The Mountain Garmin watches make a model called the Fenix 3. It's an activity watch my girlfriend owned and had purchased one for me for Christmas. One feature it has, is connecting to your phone and notifies and displays incoming texts. She and I would often message words of encouragement to each other when we were doing marathons and the other wasn't able to participate.

    One evening about a week after her latest visit to NYC, her watch starts buzzing like crazy next to me in the living room while she was upstairs. This can happen when the watch goes in and out of the phone Bluetooth range so I grabbed her watch to turn off BT since it was driving me nuts. that's when I saw the latest text message she had received on the screen, she had forgotten turn off her texts to the watch...

    "I can't wait to fuck you again too!" wait... what? I thought.

    that fucking word was a nail in my eye... ... "again"

    Gents, let me tell you, I've heard the expression "my world was spinning", but son, a fucking mountain just... leveled... my... ass.
    I had to sit back down my head was swimming so hard. I was smart enough to grab my phone from my pocket and snap a pic of the watch face for proof so I couldn't get gaslit later, but everything after that was like I was in a dream, I was in shock so deep. I recovered in a few minutes so I may have missed some back and forth texts, more convo followed about when she was out of town, but no specifics. (Later I found out this was an ex of hers who was married now but they wanted to re-live some old fun in a hotel she got for them while in NYC. Bitch even paid for the room to get some ex-dick.)

    It was late. She came down to kiss me goodnight to which I had enough sense to play it cool, and I said I wasn't too tired so would stay up, watching TV downstairs. She went to bed and I just sat quietly crying and raging for the next 2 hours, so angry and frustrated at myself for getting fooled and thinking she was different, even with all the teachings of the red pill community. All my reading and research... feeling I was smart and superior enough to not let this happen to me...all for nothing. I got played.

    I was heartbroken. I lost my best friend, my love, my roommate and someone I wanted to spend so much of my time with... someone with whom we had every passion, hobby and goal exactly the same in life. Fucking gone in 1 text. Later that moment hurt me so much because I also new... finally knew... from then on, I could never love or trust any woman ever again.

    I felt alone, stupid and worthless.

    After she was asleep, I snapped in to action. Again, knowing women light to gaslight, I went to grab her iPad.
    See, women may say they are crafty and smart, but men are smarter when we aren't being lied to or being too trusting. I remembered she had an iPad she had let me use, and since she had an iPhone, I knew her messages from her phone would sync with her iPad if from another iPhone. I dug around in the office and found it, but it was pass code locked. 6 digits. surely she couldn't be stupid enough to use her day, month last 2 digits of her birthday could she?

    Yup. Dumb bitch.

    I started reading all her texts she'd sent over the time we dated and saw not only 3 other dudes she was/had talked to, 2 of which she fucked in the last few months, but an odd message from a guy saying how glad they had met on S.A., and where they could make arrangements to meet for coffee, to discuss allowance. I knew she had an uncle that helped her with money for insurance since she was a borrowing college student so maybe this was him. I was grasping for straws.

    Not knowing what SA exactly was, I Googled "S. A." and the sugar daddy website Seeking Arrangement" popped up. Still confused but now forming an idea of what was up, I created a quick fake profile and did a search for her age within 1 mile of our zip code.

    Nothing.

    Checked within a mile of her parents zip code in NYC where she visits and stays when there. Bingo. My girlfriend was a sugar baby, photo and all, and apparently was making arrangements while away from home to score some quick cash. Lads, I actually started laughing and crying at the same time I was so blown away from the craziness I was discovering. Talk about her being completely opposite from everything I knew about her. It was complete Jekyll and Hyde shit here. I can honestly say I have never been so blown away about what I thought she was and who she really was.

    On day 3 I handed her the binder with the screen captures I printed at Staples, told her I was going to stay with a friend and to have her shit gone by the weekend or I'd send copies to everyone she knew. She was gone quickly and quietly.
    Never heard a whisper from her again thank God... but the damage was done, I was wrecked. The depression took months and months to recover from, the experience I never will. In hindsite this is good because when you get burned and fooled this well, you don't believe any woman, ever again.

    So guys, I consider myself very intelligent and knowledgeable in red pill theory, being smart about dating, women and not getting hurt, yet I got leveled. What scares me to death is, had I not seen that single text on her watch, I'd still be with her and perhaps married or even further tied financially with her. This was a woman I could have thrown my life away on... a fucking whore for fuck sakes. Without that one slip up by her, I'd have never known, and it's thanks to her watch and 1 text that saved my life.

    MGTOW gents. MGTOW and AWALT, and never forget it.
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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    I never understood the guys who go for these "totally like a chill dude" types of girls. Yeah, they're masculine and therefore always massive sluts. Also, they met on a dating app, what did he expect?
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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    The guy writes well and is obviously not a moron. With that much "on the ball," he still got snookered. So, he didn't dodge a bullet -- he took a few, and they went deep. But he reacted in time, and he did dodge the most-important threat: marriage to that woman. That would've been a B.A.R. round to the chest cavity.

    File under: "Could've Been Much Worse," push the file cabinet drawer shut, and walk away.

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    If my heart wasn't already a cold, dead mass from all of the red pills I've ingested, that would have been a heart-breaking story.

    Considering what we know about the vagina equipped gender, this is completely reasonable behavior. Of course she was parlaying her pussy into cash. Wouldn't she have been a fool not to? It's a renewable, highly valued asset that is depreciating daily. One would have to seize the opportunity to cash in while the gettin' is good.

    One thing I've wondered, in my own experience, and in examples such as this. Do they regret? Do they ever examine their actions and realize what they lost due to their foolish, childlike behavior? Probably not. I suspect that in every instance like this, they walk away with a renewed hate of the male species and a rejuvenated will to make men suffer.
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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    Quote Originally Posted by Manuallaborer View Post
    One thing I've wondered, in my own experience, and in examples such as this. Do they regret? Do they ever examine their actions and realize what they lost due to their foolish, childlike behavior? Probably not. I suspect that in every instance like this, they walk away with a renewed hate of the male species and a rejuvenated will to make men suffer.
    Eh, I don't know, I don't think man-users carry around that sort of baggage, or even self-analyze for that matter. Or feel anything positive or negative. They just... use. That's how they're hard-wired. I've worked with people like this -- male and female. I went out with one for a few months a long time ago. They see nothing wrong with how they behave. No moral code, and the reasons why don't really matter. They're nothing more than machines: great for accomplishing tasks outside the spheres of friendship (platonic or romantic), but apart from that narrow slice of human activity, pure poison.

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    Red flags don't have to be overt. He missed the ones that usually happen silently, and those are more hard to define because they're not set in stone. The fact that he didn't list anything else that he didn't see as relevant is because he didn't recognize any of the things that were.
    There are nonverbal cues that can determine if someone is lying but there's no reason to respond to a question that isn't there. Their approach to us is to shit test us, i.e. they pose a question to us to see if we're lying but they don't like to be tested themselves because they know its a shitty thing to do.
    Sometimes its subtle behaviours, little slips of the tongue (Freudian) that you might miss, things that she thinks you're not seeing etc

    At some point you wonder, if I have to constantly pay attention to these things and every conversation I have with her is like a psychotherapy session, why am I doing this again?
    If you believe everything you hear is a lie, you have a 100% lie detection rate.
    The opposite holds true but I would rather be surprised by the truth than a lie.

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    Quote Originally Posted by Manuallaborer View Post
    One thing I've wondered, in my own experience, and in examples such as this. Do they regret? Do they ever examine their actions and realize what they lost due to their foolish, childlike behavior?
    I think that some of them have the capacity for introspection and regret, I suspect that this is one reason so many women are eternally unhappy. I don't know that many are capable of admitting to anyone else that they were wrong, and even fewer are able to apologize for their actions.

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    The two-edged sword of technology. See laydeez, it makes it easier for you to cheat. It makes it easier for us to find out. And the sharing of these stories is creating a steady supply of Red Pills for anyone to take. Sad to say, but whimyn's behavior is the ultimate Red Pill. Please keep it up, laydeez!

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    So, basically, this guy's story is "I fell in love with a girl who turned out to be a secret call girl".
    Guys, my story would have been quite different...now. Back when? No. I've been here before...but she wasn't a secret call girl.
    I would have confronted her with this new knowledge, of course, but this guy deluded himself into believing that he had found the unicorn. I would have simply asked her about her sideline. You know, how long, how much she typically pulls in (as if she'd tell me). Remember, she was paying half his rent and going dutch quite a bit with him. I wouldn't have tried to turn her into a business partner, which is what happens when you marry one. This guy dumped her because he thought he was the only one AND that he could trust her. I'll never trust a woman again, but had I been this guy I would have kept her around. When I felt it was time I would have simply told her I was moving and that she would need a new roommate or cover the rent herself from then on (which she probably could have afforded). The end.
    No muss, no fuss, no drama. Like an oil change...this girl sounds like 100,000 mile oil.
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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    Sorry, but the before part of the story sounds too good to be true. Happy with what she's got, and doing her share? Yeah, right. That'll be the day.

    There are women who ride on their own like guys. I met one waiting for a road crew once. She had it together. But talk about rare, I have yet to meet another in her league. Some women ride with their guys, and now and then you see girls touring together. So I think this story's pretty unlikely.
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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    Quote Originally Posted by Manuallaborer View Post
    If my heart wasn't already a cold, dead mass from all of the red pills I've ingested, that would have been a heart-breaking story.

    Considering what we know about the vagina equipped gender, this is completely reasonable behavior. Of course she was parlaying her pussy into cash. Wouldn't she have been a fool not to? It's a renewable, highly valued asset that is depreciating daily. One would have to seize the opportunity to cash in while the gettin' is good.

    One thing I've wondered, in my own experience, and in examples such as this. Do they regret? Do they ever examine their actions and realize what they lost due to their foolish, childlike behavior? Probably not. I suspect that in every instance like this, they walk away with a renewed hate of the male species and a rejuvenated will to make men suffer.
    Do boxers regret knocking out their opponent ?

    Do dudes regret making it to NFL ? ......


    Do CEOs regret that they can boss people around and not the other way around ?


    The answer is YES ! In movies
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    What would you choose to have?

    A hot chick as a room mate that does things together but is a pro .

    Or to have a chick that works at tescos and has neither time nor energy to do anything ...but is also a pro .

    PS.

    For a pro an actual bf is a perfect excuse of normalcy and a shield so her clients wouldnt stalk her around .

    Im not a pro i gotta boyfriend
    Last edited by Alik Sakharov; February 3, 2019 at 8:00 AM.
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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    I wholeheartedly suspect that even MGTOW dudes sincerely believe that there is anything else in womens` nature than to find the highest status male possible .

    When it happens all bets are off the very moment .


    Same for men - the very moment a hotter chick shows interest in you all bets are off about your gf / wife / baby momma . Out of the window . If you can afford it financially .

    There is nothing else to it .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    "She was a law student, pretty, and into motorcycle riding, crossfit, video games... every single hobby I loved. She was basically a dude mindset in a hot girl with a nice rack. She didn't exhibit all the bullshit needy things most women did, she seemed strong, independent, self sufficient and intelligent. "

    Here is the problem: men have been so conditioned by feminism that they now seek a feminist ideal - a strong independent girl that acts like a guy.

    Is this what a man should look for? A "dude mindset"?
    Let us clearly say that women ARE BAD REPLACEMENT FOR MEN!
    If we look for male friendship, then we should find it with MEN!

    Again, there is this feminist propaganda that a couple should share interests and do everything together. Its BULSHIT!

    Familiarity breads contempt. The "patriarchal" idea of husband and wife dealing with each other in a more formal and distant way, actually works better.
    Treating a marriage like a business relationship works better.

    Love is a scam. Its an emotional tool use by women to dominate men. The fact that it exists and is powerful is no reason to defend it. Physical force exists and is powerful. One is praised and the other condemned, because one is a female tool and the other a male tool.

    I admit that I am a "brainwashed man". Like everybody else, I was raised under ideals that are gynocentric and feminist. I have encoded in me a set of values intended to make me a slave.
    Any relationship with women is not safe to me, not only because of the way women are or society is, but also because of the dangerous concepts and values I have been brainwashed with.

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    "She was a law student, pretty, and into motorcycle riding, crossfit, video games... every single hobby I loved. She was basically a dude mindset in a hot girl with a nice rack. She didn't exhibit all the bullshit needy things most women did, she seemed strong, independent, self sufficient and intelligent. "

    Here is the problem: men have been so conditioned by feminism that they now seek a feminist ideal - a strong independent girl that acts like a guy.

    Is this what a man should look for? A "dude mindset"?
    Let us clearly say that women ARE BAD REPLACEMENT FOR MEN!
    If we look for male friendship, then we should find it with MEN!

    Again, there is this feminist propaganda that a couple should share interests and do everything together. Its BULSHIT!

    Familiarity breads contempt. The "patriarchal" idea of husband and wife dealing with each other in a more formal and distant way, actually works better.
    Treating a marriage like a business relationship works better.

    Love is a scam. Its an emotional tool use by women to dominate men. The fact that it exists and is powerful is no reason to defend it. Physical force exists and is powerful. One is praised and the other condemned, because one is a female tool and the other a male tool.

    I admit that I am a "brainwashed man". Like everybody else, I was raised under ideals that are gynocentric and feminist. I have encoded in me a set of values intended to make me a slave.
    Any relationship with women is not safe to me, not only because of the way women are or society is, but also because of the dangerous concepts and values I have been brainwashed with.
    Show me a man that can treat women like a business token and would still want the same woman in his house for prolonged periods of time ... It an impossibility .

    It either he has fallen for the love scam . Or he is forced by his family of the clan his or her family belongs to .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Show me a man that can treat women like a business token and would still want the same woman in his house for prolonged periods of time ... It an impossibility .

    It either he has fallen for the love scam . Or he is forced by his family of the clan his or her family belongs to .
    ... or cannot afford another woman. On the other hand rich men had several wives, concubines or mistresses, so you are right.

    Throughout history women where a burden, with little value besides making children. Life was hard and violent, only men had the physical strength necessary to get food. Throughout history families wanted boys, and where disappointed by having girls.
    Families needed to pay men to be released from these burdens. And society was organized to avoid men dumping women and children, because they would surely die.

    In a strict business sense, a man would take a contract by accepting the dowry. There was social, ethical and religious inhibitions to breaking such contracts. So... No wife swapping...

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    ... or cannot afford another woman. On the other hand rich men had several wives, concubines or mistresses, so you are right.

    Throughout history women where a burden, with little value besides making children. Life was hard and violent, only men had the physical strength necessary to get food. Throughout history families wanted boys, and where disappointed by having girls.
    Families needed to pay men to be released from these burdens. And society was organized to avoid men dumping women and children, because they would surely die.

    In a strict business sense, a man would take a contract by accepting the dowry. There was social, ethical and religious inhibitions to breaking such contracts. So... No wife swapping...
    Yes, precisely what i said - a man that cant afford another woman have no means nor capacity to treat her as a business thing .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    I was heartbroken. I lost my best friend, my love, my roommate and someone I wanted to spend so much of my time with... someone with whom we had every passion, hobby and goal exactly the same in life. Fucking gone in 1 text.

    Best friend? "My love"? If that's a best friend I'm glad I don't have too many friends... every passion, hobby and goal? Was getting pussy on the side and getting paid for it HIS goal? Gone in 1 text? The only thing gone in one text was the illusion that there was something actually there.


    Later that moment hurt me so much because I also new... finally knew... from then on, I could never love or trust any woman ever again.

    Well, at least there is a silver lining... he could have been married, with two kids, and been divorce raped and left paying for two or three kids he'll never see for 18-25 years. If he's got no STD's, he's gotten off scott free.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: Possibly one of the worst redpill stories Ive ever heard...

    What sad little pieces of shit these simps are. It's always a three paragraph sob story when some random hoe who used them as wallets and emotional tampons heads off for better pastures. They immediately latch on and fully emotionally invest: best friend and love of their life, sharing passions, hobbies, goals... go get some testosterone replacement therapy, faggots, you're clearly not producing any of your own.
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