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    Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    I added a blog portion to Why do Some People Hate MGTOW. Mostly in response to two different articles I ran into on Wordpress.
    The first one I was a little bit forgiving on. After all the concept of Deep MGTOW does exist and that's what she appears to be concerned about.
    The second article is an example of what MGTOW are going to be running into with increased frequency. Classic uninformed mangina posting up in his echo chamber. I didn't comment on his post on his blog he has to come over and post on mine.

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    If you were to ask me, I'd say they hate us because we're right. Maybe one day they will respect us aswell.

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    We are rebels. They hate what they don't understand and can't control. They hate because they are scared to admit that they live a lie while we don't. All of us renounced the great lie and we are the minority.

    Our common ground is in truth. And it has the power to turn their lives inside out and upside down...

    They are projecting their fears. But, we can see the matrix...and once you see the truth, there's no going back to the lie...

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    Have to admit I haven't read much hate mail, but this I would anticipate, the women dislike us because we have sussed their game out and they know the number of men who will play along with it is consequently shrinking.
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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Target View Post
    Maybe one day they will respect us.
    Their respect has no value. We don't need their respect. We don't need their permission. We don't need their approval. We go our own way and leave them in our dust.
    “If your happiness depends on what somebody else does, I guess you do have a problem.” (Richard Bach)

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Marlow View Post
    Their respect has no value. We don't need their respect. We don't need their permission. We don't need their approval. We go our own way and leave them in our dust.
    True enough, but we don't live in a vacuum. An enemy that doesn't respect you will likely attack you in the most blatant and irresponsible fashion. Respect in this context is not that they like us, but that they won't carelessly mess with us.

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    I'm reminded of the saying " misery loves company "
    they hate seeing someone happy and not answering to a ball and chain.

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    I think it's easier for others to hate MGTOW than it is for them to concede their mistakes.
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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    Quite often, when someone expresses hate toward another, it's not about the person, but about themselves.
    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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    Men...Thank you all for the positive feedback and opinions.

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    People hate us? Well, then.. mission accomplished!

    But seriously, to feel hatred for a group of men who stopped chasing tail seems a little extreme, no?
    I suppose other men would just be jealous that we dont fall for the same lie they have been buying into, but should be happy there is less competition for them.

    Not sure why the ladies would care, unless they have already considered our resources as their own.
    Does their hatred come from their fear of missing out on our company, money, or seed? If i am just a neck-bearded, basement-dwelling virgin who lives with his mom, like they claim.. where's their loss?

    I suppose they consider us 'boycotting' modern relationshits and take offense. So i would have to ask, how many times would you go to the same terrible restaurants before you just learned how to cook for yourself?
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    I have actually seen women lose their fucking minds (as if they had one to begin with) when I told them I would not marry or live with a woman again. Women hate MGTOW because they just watched their plow horse walk off the plantation. Other men hate MGTOW because they believe it will score them some pussy. Each MGTOW means "one less man to extract resources from" to every woman. Hell that woman may not want you, but she knows another woman will lower herself to get that mans goodies. Bottom line is that MGTOW is an action that says "Game is fixed so solution is not to play".

    However the next reason would be that men that go their own way do not suffer because of this action. Some MGTOW's choose to avoid women all together, living a peaceful and happy life. Others decide to "game" women out of pussy, they have fun doing so. Some like myself just pay for the pussy, this of course gives instant options of size, hair color, race and when. You see once these different options are understood and put into action then an average woman on the streets, bar or internet dating site have no real value at all. With most women they are use to telling men "I have pussy to put on the table, now these are my demands". Once the guy is MGTOW he retorts with "Meh, your pussy is worth about $100, what else do you got?'. Hell the MGTOW's that avoid women all together are the worst to these women since he says "HA!, Your pussy has no value and neither do you". So yes people hate MGTOW because we picked up or toys and went home with them.
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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    Hatred over a long period of time I think is wasted energy.

    Going your own way is using your energy and time instead for yourself. Simple, elegant and beautiful expression as a man.

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Hatred over a long period of time I think is wasted energy.

    Going your own way is using your energy and time instead for yourself. Simple, elegant and beautiful expression as a man.
    I can testify to this...years of my life are undoubtedly gone...Such a waste...

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    "Regular folks" in society (blue-pill zombies) need to hate MGTOW because a man packing up and voluntarily walking away from the mating arena is simply not acceptable. People cannot accept that walking away, for many, is a legitimate choice. I believe there are strong biological imperatives at work for these feelings suddenly appear in people. Basically, these sentiments are to spit in the face of the human reproductive strategy, which is indirectly a threat to survival of the species.

    TLDR1 begins here:

    If one does so "graciously" (I'm too old, I'm too fat, I'm too poor, please leave me be, I will quietly live alone...) you may get under the radar. But if you carry a sign when you leave "This game is rigged - I am leaving this shit show.", you're begging for ridicule. Look! Look at the loser who can't compete. The women create the initial contempt. Their vitriol is based in the ultimate female fear: her "looks", her vag, and her femininity have no value to men. Such a man is ridiculed because he is a threat. The man is then ridiculed by other men, because other men are this simple:

    "Hey that girl said something derogatory about that guy over there! Let's join in and mock him! It will give the rest of us a chance to display our own higher status, and look far better in comparison!"

    Sure it's pathetic and lower than worm trail, but they're in the arena. They're pointing and laughing. Just like a bunch of school children pointing and laughing at the child who is, unfortunately, the one singled out that day.

    The point is, the women will ALWAYS be quick to shame anyone that doesn't worship vag. They even get pleasure from taunting lower value men with something they are certain the man can never have. This is why most women hate prostitutes and porn: he CAN get "it", (and most often "better it") down the street for a song, or free in the case of porn. And men will always join in, because men would throw their own brothers under the bus for pussy. Happens each and every day. The expression "bros before ho's" would not be necessary if men did not regularly put HO'S BEFORE BROS.

    But I think there is something deeper going on, something far less pathetic and pedantic. The MGTOW response to the human mating arena (fuck you) is to say fuck you to mating and reproduction.

    People have a primal response to be repulsed by things that threaten or go against human reproductive efforts.

    Reproduction = survival of the species.

    MGTOW, in a larger sense, fucks with that. It challenges the entire system that mother nature has woven so eloquently into human existence.

    If you're not going to make babies, you're going to stick around and make society nice for the people with babies.

    People who do neither are ultimately of no use from a reproductive or species survival standpoint.

    Look at how women, especially groups of women, openly laugh and mock lower value men - especially ones fool enough to show desire. Look at their behaviour and ask yourself why they do this.
    They are resentful there are not higher value men in his shoes, and thus mock him, to conceal their own shame in that given moment. Women shaming lower value men is a defence mechanism for women's fragile ego's. They value their appearance and ability to attract high value men with intense emotion investment. They shame the low value man who approaches for two reasons: (a) the aforementioned ego defence and (b) the need to "shoo him off" so higher value males don't think this sort of male is the status quo for that particular group.

    All this stuff can be traced back to mating strategies and reproductive success.

    MGTOW is hated because it throws acid in the face of human mating rituals. This is 'against' baby making and triggers a repulsion/aggressive response in other humans, who are programmed in every way imaginable to 'value' (crave) reproduction. Survival of the species. Can't fuck with that. In certain ways, we DO fuck with that.

    Haterz gonna hate!


    (TLDR2 begins here.... I go blathering on about mating rituals, mating leks, etc.)


    When women shame men from within a group, they only have personal interest at heart. They've already selected girlfriends based on a very difficult dichotomy. They need to be in a peer group that GENERALLY attracts high value males, but must have standing in that group such that they have the best pick possible of all presenting males. The goal is to be the queen hen of the group, and get first choice of approaching males. A female who is frequently left with little or nothing might find herself facing better odds if she went off on her own and got a few uglier girlfriends.

    This is why women in the same social group seem like mortal enemies rather than best friends.

    If you study the human animal, you'll see the most intense competition from a mating standpoint (for both men and women) to be between members of peer groups with very close SMVs.

    Hmmm... so what is the purpose of the "dog" of the group? The lower man or women in a clique? Why is that person around? What function does that person have -clearly this person benefits the group in some way... otherwise they would not have the person around. My theory is that being a single individual, this person raises overall group SMV by relative comparison. This person's individual negative influence on the over-all group SMV is not a problem since that person raises the perceived value of all other members in the group. Once in a while, the group dog is thrown a bone (a lower SMV person nobody else is interested in or needs at the time). The group dog knows it's place in the group, be it male or female.
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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    A lot of hate isn't all that complicated. It's simply a well of bad feeling looking for an easy target. 'MGTOW' right now is small, lacking big-boy supporters and easily confused with all sorts of vaguely understood pariahs. Lots of sad folks at the bottom of the heap are looking for a dog to kick. Don't go 'bow-wow' right in front of their kicking boot if you're not ready to bite their arse right back.

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I think it's easier for others to hate MGTOW than it is for them to concede their mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Prisoner View Post
    With most women they are use to telling men "I have pussy to put on the table, now these are my demands". Once the guy is MGTOW he retorts with "Meh, your pussy is worth about $100, what else do you got?'.


    This is the reason for the hate. You are assaulting her self esteem. She has gone her whole life being told, and believing, that being born with a vagina makes her of infinite worth. I call this BWV disease (Born With Vagina). MGTOW is slapping her in the face with, your vagina, which means herself as she is nothing but her vagina, is worth maybe $100. She reacts by defending her self esteem with every ounce of her being because her self esteem is fragile. Men earn their self esteem, women are given their self esteem. When you earn something you know how you got it, and what you did to get it, so you are impervious to the fear of losing it. You can always earn it back. Women are given it at birth, and have no idea where it came from (society is gynocentric), so if they lose it they are SOL.

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Hatred over a long period of time I think is wasted energy.

    Going your own way is using your energy and time instead for yourself. Simple, elegant and beautiful expression as a man.
    Absolutely QFT.

    However, we are not talking about the hate which many MGTOW go through as they swallow the red pill, and which eventually dissipates, but the hate of society, the feminists, and women in general towards MGTOW. This is not dissipating, but instead is growing. The long term effect will be to drain their energy and waste their time. Good. It couldn't happen to a better target.

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    Re: Why Do Some People Hate MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Hesiod View Post
    Have to admit I haven't read much hate mail, but this I would anticipate, the women dislike us because we have sussed their game out and they know the number of men who will play along with it is consequently shrinking.
    thats right

    your either with them or against them and they hate it


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