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    The obsession of young men about sex and women

    From time to time I have conversations with a young man on Skype. We talk about everything: hobbies, interests, his outlook on life and jobs. I noticed that it is sometimes hard to keep talking about a topic without him suddenly changing the subject and then he starts talking about women. He asks me, when we will go out together and "check out some chicks". Or he will tell me about this young woman he knows but who has a lot of mental problems (self-esteem issues, abuse, toxic beavior etc.)

    Of course I try to talk some sense into him and calm him down but I canīt avoid that he will touch that topic again and again. He seems obsessed with it. Finding a girlfriend and maybe even marrying and probably having children seems to be his goal in life. Whenever I point out all the dangers of relationships, he agrees with me and he calms down for a short while. Only to get back from where we started the next time. "Letīs rent a sportscar and pick up chicks! Letīs go to a club and try out some pickup-routines!" And on and on and on...

    I think he is a good guy, I really like him and from what he told me, it is clear that he suffered a lot from women and is still suffering. The main reason for his suffering is his obsession with women and the importance he puts on sex. In a desperate attempt to help him to get rid of his hormone-overdose I once even gave him the wesite of a brothel where you can see pictures of the women who are availlable at the moment and make an appoiuntment with them. I figured, this would still be better than him chasing pussy when he is drunk on a weekend, doing something very stupid.He refused to go there because he wants the romance and a relationship. And I can relate to that. I have no moral problems with prostitutes but they just donīt give me what I want from a woman: A relationship and at least some sympathy. (We all know how slim the chances are to find such a woman). If I could just enjoy casual sex, I probably would hire a prostitute once a month myself. It just doesnīt work for me and it also doesnīt work for him.

    Whenever possible I try to tell him that there is more to life than getting laid and that relationships are in most cases just an illusion. Only because a man has a wife or a grilfriend doesnīt mean that he is happy. Often quite the contrary. Sometimes he seems to understand that, only to spit out the red pill a few moments later. I sometimes feel like I am trying to give a pill to a cat. (Whoever had to do this knows what I mean. I am laughing while I am writing this ).

    sigh...

    Ok...like I said: I really like this guy and he probably touched something inside me. Maybe because I see myself in him, when I was his age. Totally blue-pill. At least he knows about pickup and he knows about the nature of women. At least in parts. But only on a very rational level. He has not fully accepted reality and refuses to do so. At best he is a purple-pill guy...in his worst moments he ist bright blue pill, right from the factory. sigh...

    It is so frustrating to see a young guy like him struggeling with his instincts, his hormones and with the brainwashing. Of course, he is also on Facebook (sigh) and from time to time he sends me fotos of some bullshit Hollywood actresses he finds hot. In those moments I want to tear my hair out or punch him in the face.

    He has problems to find a job and I told him over and over again that this should be his top priority at the moment. He is also in a phase where he tries to find out who he is and where his place in life is. (He is full of esoteric bullshit as well) This will be a long and winding road to get all that crap out of his system. But if I can help him just a tiny little bit, I would be more than happy to do that.

    I wonder how many guys out there are just like him. Hitting the wall with full speed only to get up and run at it again...and again...and again...

    So much energy and potential wasted....for what....pussy!

    I just began to realize how strong this urge is in him and probably other young men his age as well. They act like cult-followers, totally brainwashed, believing everything their guru (media and society) tells them.

    I havenīt met him in real life but maybe I should do that. Maybe now is the time not to show him not only by words but by showing him different aspects of life. We havenīt talked much about his family but I would not be surprised if he was raised by a single mother or comes from a divorce-family.

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    You see on one hand its great that he has this silly self confidence in him " lets go check out girls in da club " if only he knew that girls look at him like at a piece of turd if he aint tough and bling . He would hang himself .

    If only he knew that after he bangs a girl and feels like a champ, if only he heard a record of that girl talking to her team vagina about the experience ..he would hang himself .

    I wasted my youth being low self confidence and i would never trade my now overconfidence to anything on this planet .

    Tell him - there are only two types of strong on this planet a real strong strong and i dont give a shit for real strong . Everything else makes you a drooling doodie .

    P.S. Through the life i observed that when i feel real good i dont need / want women all that much ...when i start wanting women next to me = something is not right , some stress , some low confidence . But maybe its just me .
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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    You see on one hand its great that he has this silly self confidence in him " lets go check out girls in da club " if only he knew that girls look at him like at a piece of turd if he aint tough and bling . He would hang himself .

    If only he knew that after he bangs a girl and feels like a champ, if only he heard a record of that girl talking to her team vagina about the experience ..he would hang himself .

    I wasted my youth being low self confidence and i would never trade my now overconfidence to anything on this planet .

    Tell him - there are only two types of strong on this planet a real strong strong and i dont give a shit for real strong . Everything else makes you a drooling doodie .

    P.S. Through the life i observed that when i feel real good i dont need / want women all that much ...when i start wanting women next to me = something is not right , some stress , some low confidence . But maybe its just me .
    Itīs really difficult with him. He read a lot of PUA stuff so he knows about "alpha males" and that most women dispise men they see as "lesser men" or "beta males". At the moment he is really struggeling to either accept reality or to become one of those "alpha males". If it were for real alpha-traits like building real self-esteem (not just based on how much pussy you get) and building character and personality, this would be ok. But he seems to be really confused about which way to go.

    I think, going full blown MGTOW would be too early for him. He needs to get this stuff out of his system, even if that means that he has to bang a lot of chicks, only to find out that sex is not always that great you imagine it to be. (To be honest, I found myself having sex with a woman and thnking: "What am I doing here?")

    He is not yet at the point where he can say "Fuck all that shit! This is not making me happy! I will try to find true happiness now! And this will not be defined by a woman!"

    I already recommended some books to him and some movies and I try to open his eyes to the double standards and the manipulative games women play as often as I can. But I guess, MGTOW can not be explained, it has to be achieved through painful experiences. We started to talk on the phone and there he seems to be much quiter. (He once told me that he also suffers from ADHS, donīt know if that is true). Maybe next time I will tell him one of my horror-stories with women and also some of my sexual experiences and how many of them werenīt that great and wonderful as he might think.

    Itīs really difficult but in my opinion worth the effort.

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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    I also thought about pointing him to this forum but he is not really fluent in english and this would only tire him out. I am trying to convince him to improve his english because a lot of the really great stuff (not only MGTOW related) is only availlable in english. Letīs see what happens. At the moment he is unemployed and has plenty of time. (Time he spends phantasizing about his "dream woman"...)

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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    Some men are wired to chase pussy, in the way some men are hooked on cocaine and gambling.

    I know because I'm one of them. Jerking off in the morning isn't just entertainment for me-if I skip that routine, it leads to baaaaad failures in decision making later on. Even knowing as much as I do about the Beast, I still game girls if I drink enough to blunt my judgement.

    There's no talking a blue pill man out of this state. He must decide to rule his addiction, or let his addiction rule him.

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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    Don't misunderstand, I like sex, and have it every day when it's available. However, even when I was in my teens and twenties, I never talked about it with other guys unless it was a social gathering where the conversation had already gone toward our various conquests.

    On the internet, I'm always talking about whatever esoteric topic interests me at the moment. I could be weird, but younger me wouldn't have understood your friend's tendency to turn the conversation to a request to go cruising for chicks either.
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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    To avoid misunderstandings:

    That guy is 33 years old, so to me he is still "young". ;-)

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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    Quote Originally Posted by GabrielKnight View Post
    To avoid misunderstandings:

    That guy is 33 years old, so to me he is still "young". ;-)
    Well, I'm basically in his age range, then. So I really don't get it.
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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    [QUOTE=Octavian;15938] Jerking off in the morning isn't just entertainment for me- QUOTE]

    I've read some place that if a man loses semen more than once a month he is automatically lower than any woman psychologically, since a woman loses her energy only once a month during mestruation.
    Hence in order to be stronger a man should retain his semen.

    "In all forms of life, the sexual act is essentially catabolic, or a destructive utilization of energy, in the male. Important body cells are sacrificed in order to provide for reproduction. Nature, of course, deems the continuation of the species worth the sacrifice. When the reproductive cells, or semen, in the male are not used, they are returned to the bloodstream to be utilized by the body for other purposes essential to the highest welfare of the individual organism."

    "There exists considerable evidence from the field of psychiatry to indicate a definite relationship between the sex gland and the brain. Spermatozoa may have an internal function that is necessary for the normal metabolism of the brain, and dementia praecox (schizophrenia) may be due to an alteration of deficiency of their production due to degeneration of the seminiferous (pertaining to the formation of semen) tubules of auto-intoxication (due to having been poisoned). This may result from masturbation and sexual excess in causing a chemical withdrawal from the circulation necessary for the nutrition of the brain.

    We must remember that lecithin is a chief constituent of the myelin sheaths of the nerve-cells and essential for their activity, during which it is consumed-for it is the nerve-oil that keeps the fire of nerve and brain activity burning. Since lecithin is also a principal constituent of the semen, we can readily understand why excessive sexual activity should lead to lecithin deficiency and under-nutrition of nerve and brain cells. The sex glands influence the brain. Their influence on the nerves, however, is more immediate and profound.

    Conservation of semen means conservation of sex hormones and increased vigor, while loss of semen means loss of hormones and diminished vitality. Also chronic deficiency of such hormones leads to the symptoms of senility."
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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    Quote Originally Posted by GabrielKnight View Post
    To avoid misunderstandings:

    That guy is 33 years old, so to me he is still "young". ;-)
    I am that age. I'm also unemployed (hoping to get a job in the next month though). Lately, I've been having obsession about sex and women as you describe with this 'young man' (thanks for that) you've been talking. In fact, that's one of the reasons why I'm on this forum is because I need to keep grounding myself and not do something stupid.

    I cannot tell you where it came from or why it is. I haven't had much 'adventures' with women because I was an early Red Piller. I thought men's peak was in their teens and twenties so this 'onslaught' is very disturbing to me.

    Here is my guess: Nature is a bitch. Many of you guys are MGTOW because you have come from a divorce or a bad relationship. You've had your dance with Nature. Nature may try to call you back, but the pull isn't as strong as it used to be. With those of us who MGTOWed and avoided 'the relationshit' and 'divorce' early on still have Nature eyeing us. Our bodies are made by Nature and when we defy Nature, she tends to strike back. I have no other way of explaining the phenomenon.

    In the past, I could calm myself by going to to the gym, keeping busy, and so on. Now, I actually had to stop going to the gym since it seemed like my testosterone was overflowing. I couldn't concentrate on anything. My aggression has gotten so high I can literally punch holes in the wall. It's like I've suddenly been afflicted with that Vulcan 'Ponn Far' from Star Trek. Perhaps this phenomenon is where they got it from. There certainly is much written in literature and poetry of a guy, choosing to be a bachelor, to suddenly being overwhelmed by Nature. We cannot know Nature's Master Plan but I know Nature does not have my interest in it.

    I've returned to college since I'm changing careers. I've been in classes with young 18-20 year old girls and due to some oil classes there are foreign women from every continent (except Antarctica). I haven't had any issue with them until recently. Imagine someone in my state around these young girls and, even if I say 'they're crappy American girls', there are the foreign girls which I find more intriguing. It's pure torture.

    Here is what is really interesting. I'm getting IOIs from all of them. They're literally being drawn to me, keep trying to sit next to me, keep wanting me to talk to me, some even touching me, some staring, etc. Maybe it is pheromones or something, I don't know. In one class, a teacher my age (a divorcee) seemed full blown in a crush with me where it got so bad she would giggle in class and say my name in middle of lectures (the other girls knew what was going on and one told me). Definitely pretty. But my constantly taking classes (engineering classes so I have to study) and lack of employment and money is preventing me from going for them. I did go for one 20 yr old who was sending extremely strong IOIs. Her logical brain then asserts itself by remembering I'm thirteen years older than. In that case, I wasn't even trying but I've never seen a girl, outside of that teacher, give me such strong IOIs. I don't think I'm that handsome, and I know I was more handsome in my twenties. I've switched to a new college and the same issue is occurring. One clear 'right out of high school' college freshman walked past me the other day on the courtyard (which had no one on it since it was summer and evening). It has to be the hormones but when I walk past a girl like that, I find myself trying to get eye contact (in this case, she is coyly looking away). As I turn toward the door, I think what many guys think, "Maybe I should get another look and see her from the rear..." I turn to look, but she had already stopped and was looking over her shoulder at me. Damn! I've never had anything like this occur to me in life. It's like Nature has decided to blast a spotlight on me while simultaneously causing my blood to boil.

    In the Manosphere, we have established many 'narratives' and ways of how things work. However, I think Nature is a harsh mistress and there are many things we do not yet know or understand. I will not pretend to understand it. It simply is.

    My advice for your friend is to direct his quest for girls into a 'Big Picture' goal instead of a 'Small Picture' goal. Turn that energy into getting a job and/or improving his life (dressing better, etc.). This is transmuting the sexual desire. He will go along with it because he knows he needs to do this stuff anyway, and it aids him on taking out Nature's needle in his mind driving him mad. Prostitutes won't work because what he needs isn't sex below the waist but sex above the waist. He needs to sexually dominate a girl or girls in order for this fire in him to stop. I'm not sure if that will even stop it. I do not know if this fire will disappear in time or grow even hotter. So far, with me, it is only growing hotter.

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    "The semen contains substances of high physiological value, especially in relation to the nutrition of the brain and nervous system. If resorption of semen through the wall of the female genital tract has a vitalizing effect on the female organism, the same should be the case in the body of the male in which it is formed and conserved. And conversely, loss of semen must deprive the organism of vitality and valuable substances necessary for the nutrition of nervous tissue, such as lecithin, which has been used therapeutically with great success for the cure of neurasthenia resulting from sexual excess.

    "You say: `I do not understand the very function of the sexual apparatus.' It has two functions: Internal Secretion, which is primary, and Reproduction, which is secondary. Any other use of these endocrine organs is a perversion which will reap its penalty in the form of nervous disorder and premature old age and death.

    "`You eject the substance of the synovial fluid. You send forth, to gratify a moment's passion, the very material of which the brain is made. This is a fact which you will acknowledge when you consider that all this semen is the material of which all these substances are made and supplied, and when the semen is ejected you have selected the best part of the body to go out and become to you a useless inert mass, which can never be restored to you under any circumstances. It is lost and gone. Then, the semen being out of the body, the sexual penalty comes apace. The penalty for this loss of semen is so far reaching and so concealed from the body of people of the present day that we do not know the exact spot to look for it. But we tell you, when you see paralysis, palsy, apoplexy, rheumatism, brain softening, bent shoulders and haggard face; when you observe a young old man and the dried up young lady, in all of these cases, and in dozens of others, you may set it down that there have been sexual losses and a waste of the bodily substance from the sexual orgasm.

    "`You will see this penalty all around you, and there is no place where you may go but you will see the fruits of this sexual indulgence to excess. The penalty may be denied, and all these diseases may be attributed to every other cause under the sun, but you will be right in laying it at the proper place, and that is to the sexual drain which has sapped the blood corpuscles of the victim before you. We assure you nothing can be so very enervating as this sexual excess, and any sexual mating is an excess, providing it is not for the purpose of having children.

    "`The penalty for the disobedience of this law is in the shortened lives and the increased amount of disease which are everywhere around us." The resemblance of the sexual orgasm to the epileptic attack has been noted by many authors. The sudden withdrawal of calcium produced by the seminal discharge biochemically produces the tetany-like symptoms of the orgasm, which are so similar to those of the epileptic attack which usually follows it in those who are constitutionally predisposed. According to Acton, the sexual orgasm resembles the epileptic attack both in its phenomena and its effects. The mental hebetude and physical prostration following the discharge of nerve force characteristic of an epileptic attack also follow the sexual orgasm. The latter profoundly affects the whole nervous system with such intensity that Acton says that "it is only mature individuals who can bear even infrequent acts of copulation without more or less injury. In young persons all the vital powers should be conserved for growth and development."

    From the foregoing, it is clear that there is an important internal physiological relation between the secretions of the sex glands and the central nervous system, that the loss of these secretions, voluntarily or involuntarily, exercises a detrimental effect on the nutrition and vitality of the nerves and brain, while, on the other hand, the conservation of these secretions has a vitalizing effect on the nervous system, a regenerating effect on the endocrine glands and a rejuvenating effect on the organism as a whole.
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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    blaming hormones can only go so far.

    some guys just get so incredibly brainwashed by society that they don't even know what their own thoughts are on anything. I can't count the number of guys who backed down or immediatrly changed their opinions on long held beliefs, just by using some disingenuous intellectual pressure. make a guy think you know better than he does, and he will ignore the truth in favor of a pretty lie.

    every aspect of modern society tells men that their value rests in the judgement of women. that they NEED to be approved of by women in order to be happy. they are brainwashed.

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    What the hell happened to Hobbitnutz?!

    A man at 33 years old should have begun to work past this point. I know I get a little revved up sometimes, but it's not usually continuous for me. I'd start to question his environment: What is going on in his life and home? What media is he exposing himself to?

    I got past such a point at 25ish years old. But it was a realization that my value is so high as to be unobtainable by any woman among my peer group. The kind of woman I want is not possible to find, and I will not waste my energy on anything less. It'd be against my best interests, as the sacrifice would have to be so immense on her part as to make it remotely possible, and she can get a lot more for a lot less (since the systems in play are overwhelmingly slanted in her favor).

    I finally coined it as, "The smart woman knows better than to make a bet on me. The intelligent woman would know to invest in me." Guess what? Those NAWALTs don't exist.

    What is his self-image like? Uhh, what do those PUAs call them, what is his "frame" like? And what is he trying to hide with it?
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    [QUOTE=kev03;15961]
    Quote Originally Posted by Octavian View Post
    Jerking off in the morning isn't just entertainment for me- QUOTE]

    I've read some place that if a man loses semen more than once a month he is automatically lower than any woman psychologically, since a woman loses her energy only once a month during mestruation.
    Hence in order to be stronger a man should retain his semen.

    "In all forms of life, the sexual act is essentially catabolic, or a destructive utilization of energy, in the male. Important body cells are sacrificed in order to provide for reproduction. Nature, of course, deems the continuation of the species worth the sacrifice. When the reproductive cells, or semen, in the male are not used, they are returned to the bloodstream to be utilized by the body for other purposes essential to the highest welfare of the individual organism."

    "There exists considerable evidence from the field of psychiatry to indicate a definite relationship between the sex gland and the brain. Spermatozoa may have an internal function that is necessary for the normal metabolism of the brain, and dementia praecox (schizophrenia) may be due to an alteration of deficiency of their production due to degeneration of the seminiferous (pertaining to the formation of semen) tubules of auto-intoxication (due to having been poisoned). This may result from masturbation and sexual excess in causing a chemical withdrawal from the circulation necessary for the nutrition of the brain.

    We must remember that lecithin is a chief constituent of the myelin sheaths of the nerve-cells and essential for their activity, during which it is consumed-for it is the nerve-oil that keeps the fire of nerve and brain activity burning. Since lecithin is also a principal constituent of the semen, we can readily understand why excessive sexual activity should lead to lecithin deficiency and under-nutrition of nerve and brain cells. The sex glands influence the brain. Their influence on the nerves, however, is more immediate and profound.

    Conservation of semen means conservation of sex hormones and increased vigor, while loss of semen means loss of hormones and diminished vitality. Also chronic deficiency of such hormones leads to the symptoms of senility."
    So.... Fapping's bad for you? Should I change my name to FapMasterSickly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GabrielKnight View Post
    Itīs really difficult with him. He read a lot of PUA stuff so he knows about "alpha males" and that most women dispise men they see as "lesser men" or "beta males". At the moment he is really struggeling to either accept reality or to become one of those "alpha males". If it were for real alpha-traits like building real self-esteem (not just based on how much pussy you get) and building character and personality, this would be ok. But he seems to be really confused about which way to go.

    I think, going full blown MGTOW would be too early for him. He needs to get this stuff out of his system, even if that means that he has to bang a lot of chicks, only to find out that sex is not always that great you imagine it to be. (To be honest, I found myself having sex with a woman and thnking: "What am I doing here?")

    He is not yet at the point where he can say "Fuck all that shit! This is not making me happy! I will try to find true happiness now! And this will not be defined by a woman!"

    I already recommended some books to him and some movies and I try to open his eyes to the double standards and the manipulative games women play as often as I can. But I guess, MGTOW can not be explained, it has to be achieved through painful experiences. We started to talk on the phone and there he seems to be much quiter. (He once told me that he also suffers from ADHS, donīt know if that is true). Maybe next time I will tell him one of my horror-stories with women and also some of my sexual experiences and how many of them werenīt that great and wonderful as he might think.

    Itīs really difficult but in my opinion worth the effort.
    Yes yes yes what the fuck im i doing here , why the god forsaken hell i agreed to this . Especially when drunk ... i dont really want sex if im honest , it will last for an hour at least while i just want to eat and sleep .

    Once i banged a girl in the morning and was so hungry cause i havent eaten for 2 days, it was going nowhere cause i was about to black out hahaha i pulled out and said "make me something to eat ..." . My friends laughed at me foir doing that like it was some crime

    It took me time to realise that i dont feel anything to girls my age or younger , nothing just nothing .

    P.S. As for your friend ... i vote for you letting him experience stuff , if he is confident around girls its great ! Tell him two things - STDS and pregnancy both can kill you and if not both will drain your health and there is no going back when you catch them .
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    Re: The obsession of young men about sex and women

    Quote Originally Posted by GabrielKnight View Post
    I also thought about pointing him to this forum but he is not really fluent in english and this would only tire him out. I am trying to convince him to improve his english because a lot of the really great stuff (not only MGTOW related) is only availlable in english. Letīs see what happens. At the moment he is unemployed and has plenty of time. (Time he spends phantasizing about his "dream woman"...)
    Point him out to this forum , he will learn both english and mgtow stuff .Its a win win .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev03 View Post
    I've read some place that if a man loses semen more than once a month he is automatically lower than any woman psychologically, since a woman loses her energy only once a month during mestruation.
    Hence in order to be stronger a man should retain his semen.
    Piffle.

    If that were true, women would be designing the bridges, founding the businesses, etc etc etc you guys know the drill.

    Quote Originally Posted by kev03 View Post
    "In all forms of life, the sexual act is essentially catabolic, or a destructive utilization of energy, in the male. Important body cells are sacrificed in order to provide for reproduction.
    LOLWHUT? Is this that silly idea that ten pounds of food becomes one pound of blood, ten pound of blood becomes one pound of flesh, ten pounds of flesh becomes one pound of fat, ten pounds of fat becomes one pound of bone, ten pounds of bone becomes one pound of marrow, and ten pounds of marrow becomes one pound of semen? Or whatever the ratio - if you do the math then it means the average teenager must be eating three tons of food a day.

    This ancient canard, in combination with "energy" above. Persuades me that this is recycled eastern religious horseshit.

    Oh - here we go "Semen is the quintessence of food or blood. One drop of semen is manufactured out of 40 drops of blood according to modern medical science. According to Ayurveda, it is elaborated out of 80 drops of blood. Just as sugar is all-pervading in the sugar cane, butter in milk, so also, semen is pervading the whole body." Total rubbish. This was written by people who didn't have microscopes and had no idea what semen or blood was made of.

    Quote Originally Posted by kev03 View Post
    "There exists considerable evidence from the field of psychiatry to indicate a definite relationship between the sex gland and the brain. Spermatozoa may have an internal function that is necessary for the normal metabolism of the brain, and dementia praecox (schizophrenia) may be due to an alteration of deficiency of their production due to degeneration of the seminiferous (pertaining to the formation of semen) tubules of auto-intoxication (due to having been poisoned). This may result from masturbation and sexual excess in causing a chemical withdrawal from the circulation necessary for the nutrition of the brain.
    Seriously? Someone is seriously trying to pretend that if you whack it, you go mad? In this day and age?

    Oh, and apparently: lecithin.

    Nope - not buying it. I'm happy to believe that habitually whacking it while watching porn fucks with your dopamine and maybe T, but "chi" by whatever name can go whistle.

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    Thanks guys. You really raised some good questions.

    This guy is really fucked up, but like I said, I think he has potential and his main problem seems to be that his head is full of all that bullshit. (Wishfull thinking, believing in the magical NAWALT that will sometime just appear etc...)

    Probably the only thing I can do is to encourage him and to watch him running against the wall. Maybe I can then use his experiences to open his eyes a little bit more.

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    only to find out that sex is not always that great you imagine it to be. (To be honest, I found myself having sex with a woman and thinking: "What am I doing here?")
    Ain't that the truth.

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    I am that age. I'm also unemployed (hoping to get a job in the next month though). Lately, I've been having obsession about sex and women as you describe with this 'young man' (thanks for that) you've been talking. In fact, that's one of the reasons why I'm on this forum is because I need to keep grounding myself and not do something stupid.

    I cannot tell you where it came from or why it is. I haven't had much 'adventures' with women because I was an early Red Piller. I thought men's peak was in their teens and twenties so this 'onslaught' is very disturbing to me.

    Here is my guess: Nature is a bitch. Many of you guys are MGTOW because you have come from a divorce or a bad relationship. You've had your dance with Nature. Nature may try to call you back, but the pull isn't as strong as it used to be. With those of us who MGTOWed and avoided 'the relationshit' and 'divorce' early on still have Nature eyeing us. Our bodies are made by Nature and when we defy Nature, she tends to strike back. I have no other way of explaining the phenomenon.

    In the past, I could calm myself by going to to the gym, keeping busy, and so on. Now, I actually had to stop going to the gym since it seemed like my testosterone was overflowing. I couldn't concentrate on anything. My aggression has gotten so high I can literally punch holes in the wall. It's like I've suddenly been afflicted with that Vulcan 'Ponn Far' from Star Trek. Perhaps this phenomenon is where they got it from. There certainly is much written in literature and poetry of a guy, choosing to be a bachelor, to suddenly being overwhelmed by Nature. We cannot know Nature's Master Plan but I know Nature does not have my interest in it.

    I've returned to college since I'm changing careers. I've been in classes with young 18-20 year old girls and due to some oil classes there are foreign women from every continent (except Antarctica). I haven't had any issue with them until recently. Imagine someone in my state around these young girls and, even if I say 'they're crappy American girls', there are the foreign girls which I find more intriguing. It's pure torture.

    Here is what is really interesting. I'm getting IOIs from all of them. They're literally being drawn to me, keep trying to sit next to me, keep wanting me to talk to me, some even touching me, some staring, etc. Maybe it is pheromones or something, I don't know. In one class, a teacher my age (a divorcee) seemed full blown in a crush with me where it got so bad she would giggle in class and say my name in middle of lectures (the other girls knew what was going on and one told me). Definitely pretty. But my constantly taking classes (engineering classes so I have to study) and lack of employment and money is preventing me from going for them. I did go for one 20 yr old who was sending extremely strong IOIs. Her logical brain then asserts itself by remembering I'm thirteen years older than. In that case, I wasn't even trying but I've never seen a girl, outside of that teacher, give me such strong IOIs. I don't think I'm that handsome, and I know I was more handsome in my twenties. I've switched to a new college and the same issue is occurring. One clear 'right out of high school' college freshman walked past me the other day on the courtyard (which had no one on it since it was summer and evening). It has to be the hormones but when I walk past a girl like that, I find myself trying to get eye contact (in this case, she is coyly looking away). As I turn toward the door, I think what many guys think, "Maybe I should get another look and see her from the rear..." I turn to look, but she had already stopped and was looking over her shoulder at me. Damn! I've never had anything like this occur to me in life. It's like Nature has decided to blast a spotlight on me while simultaneously causing my blood to boil.

    In the Manosphere, we have established many 'narratives' and ways of how things work. However, I think Nature is a harsh mistress and there are many things we do not yet know or understand. I will not pretend to understand it. It simply is.

    My advice for your friend is to direct his quest for girls into a 'Big Picture' goal instead of a 'Small Picture' goal. Turn that energy into getting a job and/or improving his life (dressing better, etc.). This is transmuting the sexual desire. He will go along with it because he knows he needs to do this stuff anyway, and it aids him on taking out Nature's needle in his mind driving him mad. Prostitutes won't work because what he needs isn't sex below the waist but sex above the waist. He needs to sexually dominate a girl or girls in order for this fire in him to stop. I'm not sure if that will even stop it. I do not know if this fire will disappear in time or grow even hotter. So far, with me, it is only growing hotter.
    What a life

    The capability for aggression is like honey to girls plus you look them straight in the eyes , your movements are natural and more wide, relaxed , more go getter like .

    Im currently feeling the same and its the best feeling in the world and everything goes way way smoother .

    P.S. People that have kids should teach them not " dont go there cause someone might do something to you " but " if someone wants to do you ache bang them no matter verbally or physically " . Especially mommies teach their children to be the victim ... why would anyone do that is beyond me .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !


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