Thread: The new normal: Don't hire a woman

Some time ago, Kyle S. Reyes, CEO of a company called the Silent Partner Marketing, got sick and tired of dealing with prospective employees who were a poor match with his business philosophy. “We get hundreds and hundreds of people reaching out to work for us,” he said. “I … realized it was a time suck on my staff and me to be weeding through endless piles of paper trying to find the handful of people who actually want to hustle for a living and would be a great fit for our company. So I’ve implemented something that is going to give HR managers and the PC Police night sweats. I lovingly refer to it as the Snowflake Test.”


The Snowflake Test, as it turns out, was a series of 30 questions designed to gauge an applicant’s views on such things as guns, faith, work ethic, morality, patriotism, company benefits, salaries, and similar tangible and intangible subjects.
The test was stunningly effective, even with people who never took it. A blizzard of snowflakes blasted Reyes for his insensitivity and demanded safe spaces from his triggering questions. “I was scolded by a woman on the phone yesterday who told me she wouldn’t take the test and ‘shame’ on me for making people take a test to come work for us,” he recalled. “She ‘demanded’ I remove the test or risk losing out on‘perfect employees’ like herself.”
Meanwhile, Reyes was besieged by businesses requesting his list of questions so they, too, could implement their own Snowflake Tests . . .

https://www.wnd.com/2018/10/the-new-...-hire-a-woman/

1. Outside of standard benefits, what benefits should a company offer employees?
2. What should the national minimum wage be?
3. How many sick days should be given to employees?
4. How often should employees get raises?
5. How do you feel about guns?
6. What are your feelings about employees or clients carrying guns?
7. What are your feelings about safe spaces in challenging work environments?
8. In a creative environment like The Silent Partner Marketing, what do you envision work attire looking like?
9. Should “trigger warnings” be issued before we release content for clients or the company that might be considered “controversial”?
10. How do you feel about police?
11. If you owned the company and were to find out that a client is operating unethically but was a high paying client…how would you handle it?
12. When was the last time you cried and why?
13. You arrive at an event for work and there’s a major celebrity you’ve always wanted to meet. What happens next?
. . . . 30. What’s more important? Book smarts or street smarts? Why?

Just gonna answer those questions for shits and giggles. Full list is found at https://newbostonpost.com/blogs/you-...st-here-it-is/

1. I don't know what the standards are, so can't answer.
2. I think it's about € 10 per hour here, and overall € 1,500 to 1,600 per month.
3. When I'm sick I'm sick, can't control that.
4. Once a year, or when an employee asks for a raise and has valid points on why he deserves one.
5. Guns are good for self defense. There are no guns here, safe for the police, military and a bunch of criminals, but your standard burglar or aggressive person here carries no more than a knife.
6. Good for them, I just hope they won't go postal.
7. Fuck off with safe spaces. You're an adult, not a kid.
8. Modestly casual at work, unless visiting a client/having a client coming over, then professional.
9. No, fuck off.
10. I respect authority, but don't feel either really positive or negative about them. But stop ticketing people for minor speeding and go catch some criminals, ye bastards!
11. Define unethically. Could it bring the company down if reported? If so, I'd have a talk with the client and see if we can find a solution. If not, screw it, gimme the money!
12. Somewhere in 2007 I think, when my aunt died.
13. Say hi and have some chit chat if the dude is willing. Maybe ask for a picture together (having either an actor or a musician in mind), nothing more.
14. Rum!
15. Either face to face or through e-mail.
16. Play online videogames.
17. College sucks, it's a liberal feminazi moron fest right now.
18. Bread, with either cheese, ham, or other meat.
19. I don't go there.
20. I'm not bullied.
21. Get pissed off if it happens a couple of times in a row, but accept it if they tell me why my ideas are shot down, and try to think of something better.
22. I'll explain why it's a bad idea.
23. I'm 100% behind it.
24. I'm an atheist. If you're a religious person, fine with me, but don't shove your religion in my face.
25. I don't have role models.
26. I'll never set foot in a Starbucks, but if offered, damn... tough question. In the end it's either me or them, and I choose myself (and my friends) over a stranger who wants to kill everyone in the place.
27. To me, it's a country of loud-mouthed assholes, but it also offers the world lots of good stuff. I'd tour the country if I could, just to see if my first thought was true or not.
28. Don't care, not my country, not my flag.
29. Privilege is an overused word these days, just like racist and nazi. It has lost all meaning.
30: Book smarts. Better be an average but knowledgable person than a thug who knows how to throw a punch.

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Quoting the full 30 questions for those interested:
The Snowflake Test

1. Outside of standard benefits, what benefits should a company offer employees?
2. What should the national minimum wage be?
3. How many sick days should be given to employees?
4. How often should employees get raises?
5. How do you feel about guns?
6. What are your feelings about employees or clients carrying guns?
7. What are your feelings about safe spaces in challenging work environments?
8. In a creative environment like The Silent Partner Marketing, what do you envision work attire looking like?
9. Should “trigger warnings” be issued before we release content for clients or the company that might be considered “controversial”?
10. How do you feel about police?
11. If you owned the company and were to find out that a client is operating unethically but was a high paying client…how would you handle it?
12. When was the last time you cried and why?
13. You arrive at an event for work and there’s a major celebrity you’ve always wanted to meet. What happens next?
14. What’s your favorite kind of adult beverage?
15. What’s the best way to communicate with clients?
16. What’s your favorite thing to do in your free time?
17. What are your thoughts on the current college environment as it pertains to a future workforce?
18. What’s your typical breakfast?
19. What’s your favorite drink when you go to a coffeehouse?
20. How do you handle bullies?
21. How do you handle it when your ideas are shot down?
22. What do you do if a coworker comes to the table with an idea and it sucks?
23. What does the first amendment mean to you?
24. What does faith mean to you?
25. Who is your role model and why?
26. “You’re in Starbucks with two friends. Someone runs in and says someone is coming in with a gun in 15 seconds to shoot patrons. They offer you a gun. Do you take it? What do you do next?”
27. What does America mean to you?
28. You see someone stepping on an American flag. What do you do?
29. What does “privilege” mean to you?
30. What’s more important? Book smarts or street smarts? Why?

My answers for shits n' giggles:

1. Outside of standard benefits, what benefits should a company offer employees? : Benefits are there to ensure loyalty and efficiency of the employee. Anyone you want to keep around long term should get benefits tailored to make their life and job mesh well together. Examples: A pension with the company to signal a long term commitment (a marriage between employee and company, so to say, with mutual benefits). Or if your role involves travel, a lease car or other form of travel compensation.
2. What should the national minimum wage be? : High enough that a full time job would sustain a family on a single income. No less. But not much more either, as that'd wreck the economy.
3. How many sick days should be given to employees? : Depends if they are conditional. If you do not check for actual illness, people start seeing them as just an extra form of leave. My advice would be 5 workdays without checking (should be enough to catch that annual flu season where you don't want sick employees infecting the rest of your company), followed by an additional 15 that require a declaration by a medical professional that you are indeed unfit for work.
4. How often should employees get raises? : Annually to offset inflation (companies raise their own prices for that as well, don't they?). Beyond that, whenever the merit of the employee for the company increases, such as when a person is promoted or has done something truly extraordinary.
5. How do you feel about guns? : I don't like them, but accept that they have their purpose in this world.
6. What are your feelings about employees or clients carrying guns? : I don't like it. People act irrationally sometimes. Irrational people plus guns equals killing spree. I do not think a workplace where every potential unhappy cubicle dweller is one hairs breadth away from becoming a mortal threat encourages productivity. Clients, depends on the situation, but I'd be more accepting of that. You're working for the client in the end, after all. Another exception is of course security personnel. Those HAVE to carry guns if it's possible anyone else does. Bringing a tazer to a gunfight would not end well after all.
7. What are your feelings about safe spaces in challenging work environments? : Depends if you mean physical safety (like a fireproofed space in a chemical plant or similar) or emotional safespaces. The former are common sense. The latter are not. Those who can't deal with emotions have not reached emotional maturity, and therefor not suitable as employees.
8. In a creative environment like The Silent Partner Marketing, what do you envision work attire looking like? : Business casual, in general.
9. Should “trigger warnings” be issued before we release content for clients or the company that might be considered “controversial”? No. Triggered individuals should instead be used as unwilling marketing campaigns.
10. How do you feel about police? A necessity. Not all of society plays nice. Enforcement of rules and laws is needed for them to actually have any meaning.
11. If you owned the company and were to find out that a client is operating unethically but was a high paying client…how would you handle it? : Depends if the person is acting illegally or not. If the unethical conduct is illegal: Contact the client and let them know that this is something that, if the company found this out, others will as well. Advise them to seek legal aid and then report the crime as is necessary by law. If the unethical act is not illegal, then it isn't the company's business. Belligerence does not a happy client make.
12. When was the last time you cried and why? 3 months ago when I was hammering a nail into the wall to hang up a coathook. Hit my index finger. It hurt. A lot.
13. You arrive at an event for work and there’s a major celebrity you’ve always wanted to meet. What happens next? Depends on the celebrity. I'd probably try to approach him/her and compliment them on their work.
14. What’s your favorite kind of adult beverage? : Hoegaarden beer.
15. What’s the best way to communicate with clients? Email. It offers a written record of what is being discussed and allows you and the client to think before you reply.
16. What’s your favorite thing to do in your free time? Computer (specifically PC) gaming.
17. What are your thoughts on the current college environment as it pertains to a future workforce? Workplace and education are drifting further apart. Practical knowledge isn't being taught anymore. It's getting to the point where college is becoming irrelevant and it'd end up better, especially for huge companies, to train their own workers directly out of high school.
18. What’s your typical breakfast? Ham and cheese sandwich. Quick, easy and tasty.
19. What’s your favorite drink when you go to a coffeehouse? I don't visit coffeehouses or bars. If I'm out and about and feel like getting a drink, I'll get a soda from a gas station or nearby convenience store.
20. How do you handle bullies? I confront them (preferably without physical altercations). Only way to handle them.
21. How do you handle it when your ideas are shot down? Depends if there is a better idea being presented. I'm open to being proven wrong. Keyword being "proven".
22. What do you do if a coworker comes to the table with an idea and it sucks? I try to prove them wrong.
23. What does the first amendment mean to you? Anyone may share their beliefs, opinions or views on life. The caveat is that anyone who does should also be expected to live with the consequences of this. Every bit of freedom comes with responsibilities.
24. What does faith mean to you? I'm an atheist. But if we stretch out "faith" to "view on existance" then I can answer: It means to always keep looking for answers, and more questions to answer. To never accept another's truth at face value. Nothing is sacred. Not even my own life views.
25. Who is your role model and why? Brent Spiner's android character Data, of the Star Trek series. He is a character that's detached from humanity, being an artificial construct, but seeks to understand humanity and human nature.
26. You’re in Starbucks with two friends. Someone runs in and says someone is coming in with a gun in 15 seconds to shoot patrons. They offer you a gun. Do you take it? What do you do next? : I'd take the weapon, and if that someone has been shouting this as per usual, there'll be a panic already. I'd quickly look for a defensible spot with a field of fire on the entrance, preferably with a bit of cover, then head for it. If someone actually did come in waving a weapon around, I'd put a bullet through that persons head, without a second thought.
27. What does America mean to you? I'm Dutch. Will answer this in the broader sense. "What does your nation mean to you?" : It means very little. Culturally nations are no longer unified, at least in the western world. It's become a "pay taxes, get services" deal, but if you wonder about loyalty to a nation, I have none anymore.
28. You see someone stepping on an American flag. What do you do? : Nothing. Posturing doesn't bother me. At most I'd commit to camera, and later Youtube, the faces of those doing so. The internet is forever after all.
29. What does “privilege” mean to you? : An excuse others use to put in less effort then those they claim to be privileged, in order to further their own status and agenda. It does not exist in a meritocracy.
30. What’s more important? Book smarts or street smarts? Why? : Street smarts. Book smarts teach you the ideal situations. Street smarts teach you practical, realistic situations. The disconnect between these two is growing.

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Before and after Kavanaugh. Men learned a lesson. The expense of hiring a woman.

The Vid, fun to watch AI learns not to pick women to hire.

You could rip up a bunch a people with that list alright, and a lot would be snowflakes, though I didn't always understand what they were driving at. Kind of a long list though. Seems like an innocent or two might get the chop too. But its not a bad idea.

They would never let the government try this. But they got their ways. Their temp-permanent job system is the biggest one, and has sent many a phony down the road.

Temporary jobs are six months max, and limited bennies. In theory you have callback rights to be a temp again next year, but there's a dozen ways they can scotch that if they want. With little to lose, the government don't have to be picky hiring temps.


Permanent appointments have guaranteed pay periods ranging from six months a year to permanent full time. Full bennies, plus the right to apply for other permanent jobs. They have to offer you a job elsewhere before you can be downsized.

As you might expect, the gov is a lot more anal when it comes to a permanent job. The process strongly resembles a courtship ritual. Or maybe joining an outlaw motorcycle club. You, the budding temporary, do what they want when they want it, and keep your smart mouth shut. They ride you hard and put you away wet, you pretend it didn't happen. They can screw you for the littlest thing if they want.

The process looks much like a woman pretending to be what you want before you marry, only this time both sex's play. Sad to report, men can play this game too, and some are just as good at it as the woman.

ok let see how this goes,...

Quoting the full 30 questions for those interested:
The Snowflake Test

1. Outside of standard benefits, what benefits should a company offer employees? --------none
2. What should the national minimum wage be?--------none, wage should be based on value to the company
3. How many sick days should be given to employees?----------------sick days should be based on days worked
4. How often should employees get raises?------------only when the employee increases the value of the company
5. How do you feel about guns?---------if you legally can own one then you should
6. What are your feelings about employees or clients carrying guns?-----------------see #5
7. What are your feelings about safe spaces in challenging work environments?------------------waste of company assets
8. In a creative environment like The Silent Partner Marketing, what do you envision work attire looking like?----------depends on position, dress accordantly
9. Should “trigger warnings” be issued before we release content for clients or the company that might be considered “controversial”?----------No
10. How do you feel about police?---------------With out the police society would not exist
11. If you owned the company and were to find out that a client is operating unethically but was a high paying client…how would you handle it?-------------------Every company is going to do something that will be viewed as unethical by someone else, operate my company to the best of my ability
12. When was the last time you cried and why?--------------Grandfather died
13. You arrive at an event for work and there’s a major celebrity you’ve always wanted to meet. What happens next?------------I do my job
14. What’s your favorite kind of adult beverage?----------------Rum and coke
15. What’s the best way to communicate with clients?--------------Business like
16. What’s your favorite thing to do in your free time?-------------------fishing
17. What are your thoughts on the current college environment as it pertains to a future workforce?-----------------most colleges do nothing to get anyone ready to do anything other then protest
18. What’s your typical breakfast?----------------coffee, pancakes
19. What’s your favorite drink when you go to a coffeehouse?---------------iced coffee
20. How do you handle bullies?--------------defuse the situation
21. How do you handle it when your ideas are shot down?-------------it is all just part of the work day
22. What do you do if a coworker comes to the table with an idea and it sucks?--------------point out it is a bad idea
23. What does the first amendment mean to you?---------------Your freedom stops where mine begins, mine stops where yours begins.
24. What does faith mean to you?--------------------after my divorces this is something I am working on
25. Who is your role model and why?---------------Trump, taking on all and still making the country better every day
26. “You’re in Starbucks with two friends. Someone runs in and says someone is coming in with a gun in 15 seconds to shoot patrons. They offer you a gun. Do you take it? What do you do next?”-----------------------1st would never ever catch me in a starbucks, 2nt if someone ran in saying that I would be suspect it was a setup
27. What does America mean to you?------------------Once great nation on the edge, Trump trying to bring it back from the edge
28. You see someone stepping on an American flag. What do you do?---------------------film it then post it to Sean Hannity forum, and let the media take over
29. What does “privilege” mean to you?------------------something you have earned
30. What’s more important? Book smarts or street smarts? Why?---------------depends on the situation, but most of the time book smarts will do better.

Mine:

• Outside of standard benefits, what benefits should a company offer employees?

A company is not obliged to offer benefits outside of standard benefits. It may, however, be a good idea to do so - it's a business decision.

• What should the national minimum wage be?

Enough to live on. A business that cannot do that has no business being in business. Companies are artificial constructs given special status by laws, and it's reasonable that the society that grants them permission to exist require certain things of them. We all decided many years ago that indentured labour in all its forms is a bad thing.

• How many sick days should be given to employees?

This, again, is a business decision. Everyone gets sick occasionally, and losing employees who are sick no more often than usual makes no sense. Neither does employing an invalid who cannot do the job.

• How often should employees get raises?

An annual cost-of-living adjustment makes sense.

• How do you feel about guns?

They are for killing people.

• What are your feelings about employees or clients carrying guns?

I prefer not to be in the company of someone who is carrying about them a device that could - within a few seconds and without a lot of forethought - kill me. People are weird, unpredictable, and often stupid. Some people are actually crazy, and no-one has found them out yet. I don't want to be the one that does.

• What are your feelings about safe spaces in challenging work environments?

They are bullshit.

• In a creative environment like The Silent Partner Marketing, what do you envision work attire looking like?

It doesn't much matter if the clients don't see it. Everyone is dressed more or less the same, maybe management a bit more spiffily. But it would be nice if people would cover up. If I want to see nightclub attire, I'll go to a nightclub.

• Should “trigger warnings” be issued before we release content for clients or the company that might be considered “controversial”?

It might be wise.

• How do you feel about police?

They're mostly pretty good.

• If you owned the company and were to find out that a client is operating unethically but was a high paying client…how would you handle it?

Everyone has a duty to report crimes. Beyond that, a person who acts unethically towards some other party is a person quite capable of acting unethically towards you.

• When was the last time you cried and why?

Absolutely none of your business.

• You arrive at an event for work and there’s a major celebrity you’ve always wanted to meet. What happens next?

Depending on the event, I'd probably at some point approach the celebrity and tell them that I am a fan and very happy to meet them. Any celebrity I am a fan of would be quite gracious about it, exactly like a person who meets fans of theirs many times a day. I would not take up too much of their time, and make way for the next person in the queue.

• What’s your favorite kind of adult beverage?

Beer.

• What’s the best way to communicate with clients?

Face to face.

• What’s your favorite thing to do in your free time?

Browse the internet.

• What are your thoughts on the current college environment as it pertains to a future workforce?

"Nothing is ever quite as bad or quite as good as it at first appears to be."

• What’s your typical breakfast?

Nothing.

• What’s your favorite drink when you go to a coffeehouse?

Coffee.

• How do you handle bullies?

I don't work for them or with them.

1. How do you handle it when your ideas are shot down?

In the past, I have handled it by reorienting and getting on board with whatever the meeting has decided to go forward with.

1. What do you do if a coworker comes to the table with an idea and it sucks?

Tell them why I think it sucks - I would probably not actually use the word "sucks".

1. What does the first amendment mean to you?

First: The government (of the USA) is not permitted to forbid people from communicating their opinions, especially their political opinions. This does not mean that a company that has decided to call itself "The Press" thereby becomes free to do anything it likes.

Second: The government (of the USA) is not to establish a state religion. Among other things, this means that it should not make laws on the basis of religious belief.

1. What does faith mean to you?

"Faith is believing something you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain

1. Who is your role model and why?

I don't know why anyone would need such a thing.

1. “You’re in Starbucks with two friends. Someone runs in and says someone is coming in with a gun in 15 seconds to shoot patrons. They offer you a gun. Do you take it? What do you do next?”

I would assume I am being set up and not get my prints on that gun.

1. What does America (Australia) mean to you?

Australia, somehow, has managed to get it right. Most of the rest of the entire world is a worse place to be.

1. You see someone stepping on an American (Australian) flag. What do you do?

Ignore it. Anything else, no matter what happens next, it isn't going to end well (in most civilised countries, people aren't trained as infants to fetishize their flag. The USA is somewhat unique in that regard.).

1. What does “privilege” mean to you?

Not a lot. I get that because I'm white, people tend to (for instance) not assume I am going to steal stuff. However, I don't feel guilt about this.

1. What’s more important? Book smarts or street smarts? Why?

My street smarts tell me that without my book smarts, I'd be homeless.

That would've been a great questionnaire to use for prospective dates, back when I was dating. Boy, the wasted years it would've saved me...

Originally Posted by frog

You could rip up a bunch a people with that list alright, and a lot would be snowflakes, though I didn't always understand what they were driving at.

It's not the answers that matter, it's their reaction to being asked to do it. The snowflakes be all "How absolutely dare you ask me to take this test!". The intro requirement on this forum is exactly the same thing.

In 2016, Reyes published this:

An open letter to college crybabies from a CEO

Hmm...perhaps those dating apps should add this test as a filter. Now that would be shitshow!