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    Are modern relationships just about sex?

    There have been a number of threads of late that have made me wonder this. Many times things are based on first impressions and whether there is an immediate spark or not. Marriage is undesirable for many of either gender but of course mostly for men. Men are able to do the usual things women used to provide in relationships. Having kids is expensive and inconvenient also.

    Women also have lost whatever charm they may have ever had, many just behaving like men or cheap whores. So romance is also impossible.

    So when you remove the basic building blocks of forming a relationship, marriage, family and a life together what are you really left with?

    Is it really just about someone to fuck until you get sick of and then move on?

    Many of us, don't even want that anymore either.

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    That's all it is Morlock. You hit the nail on the head.

    The problem arises in the lack of honesty. If men and women could just openly state that they both had a mutual interest in living with someone for orgasms, even I would consider entering into a relationship under this premise.

    Women will never agree to that though. The orgasm is the carrot on a stick she dangles in front of the man to get more. She wants unlimited access to his current and future financial earnings.

    A man simply wants to fuck the woman. The woman will tolerate the fucking with the long game hope of getting what she really wants, EVERYTHING!
    If it floats, flies or fucks, it's better to rent

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manuallaborer View Post
    That's all it is Morlock. You hit the nail on the head.

    The problem arises in the lack of honesty. If men and women could just openly state that they both had a mutual interest in living with someone for orgasms, even I would consider entering into a relationship under this premise.

    Women will never agree to that though. The orgasm is the carrot on a stick she dangles in front of the man to get more. She wants unlimited access to his current and future financial earnings.

    A man simply wants to fuck the woman. The woman will tolerate the fucking with the long game hope of getting what she really wants, EVERYTHING!
    That's true. They can't allow themselves to appear too interested in sex because then they can't withhold it later. Actually, at first they are into everything and anything the man suggests. Later on they start to back peddle and use those things as leverage against him or even just to cause some drama and shit test him. Been there a couple of times.

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    I'm growing convinced that feminist women hate sex. They use it as a tool to secure male resources as any vagina holder would. But unlike a traditional, submissive woman they receive no joy in bringing a man pleasure or sharing their body with him.

    When a man has a feminist bent over and fucking her hard from behind, she is forced into submission. At that time, there is no doubt in her mind that males are the dominant gender. Of course she hates that. She endures it the same way we endure unpleasantries at work. We will not openly show our disdain for a female superior's squawking. We may even smile and nod in agreement.

    Getting married for a feminist is the same relief a mgtow man would experience in starting his own business. "FINALLY! No more speeches by that incompetent female leader". A married feminist, "FINALLY! No more submitting my body for his pleasure".

    What is shocking to me is the short duration of time they are able to hold the facade. In the beginning of every relationship I've ever had, unlimited sex on tap 24/7. Six months, one year, two years down the road, the tap runs dry. Less and less. Critically, they will start to vocalize disdain for the entire idea. To quote my ex purple hair princess "You can't use my body for your pleasure". REALLY? Then tell me again why I would agree to a legal contract declaring that I will never have sex with anyone else, EVER?

    If she would have continued fucking like a rabbit in all of the years we dated, I probably would have married her. And then on the wedding night she would have told me "You can't use my body for your pleasure".
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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manuallaborer View Post
    I'm growing convinced that feminist women hate sex. They use it as a tool to secure male resources as any vagina holder would. But unlike a traditional, submissive woman they receive no joy in bringing a man pleasure or sharing their body with him.

    When a man has a feminist bent over and fucking her hard from behind, she is forced into submission. At that time, there is no doubt in her mind that males are the dominant gender. Of course she hates that. She endures it the same way we endure unpleasantries at work. We will not openly show our disdain for a female superior's squawking. We may even smile and nod in agreement.

    Getting married for a feminist is the same relief a mgtow man would experience in starting his own business. "FINALLY! No more speeches by that incompetent female leader". A married feminist, "FINALLY! No more submitting my body for his pleasure".

    What is shocking to me is the short duration of time they are able to hold the facade. In the beginning of every relationship I've ever had, unlimited sex on tap 24/7. Six months, one year, two years down the road, the tap runs dry. Less and less. Critically, they will start to vocalize disdain for the entire idea. To quote my ex purple hair princess "You can't use my body for your pleasure". REALLY? Then tell me again why I would agree to a legal contract declaring that I will never have sex with anyone else, EVER?

    If she would have continued fucking like a rabbit in all of the years we dated, I probably would have married her. And then on the wedding night she would have told me "You can't use my body for your pleasure".
    As you said , it is also like it happens at work , you do expect at the back of your heart to be promoted and the work to become easier , dont you ?

    Women feel the same at the beginning and it is just natural that whatever happens happens .
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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Is it really just about someone to fuck until you get sick of and then move on?
    Women used to need a man for financial, social and emotional support. Now, they out-earn men (mainly because of positive discrimination), they have all sorts of social groups which they can participate, and they get emotional support from friends and degenerates like white knights and simps.

    So what is left? Animalistic, hardcore sex. Once they find a man who fits the criteria, they will open their legs in minutes for him. If not, then they won't even as much open themselves to the possibility of flirtation with such a man.

    In fact, if the bottom 95% of men try to even say hello, they will quickly get shafted to the side and she will complain immediately.

    Romance is dead. Relationships are dead. From a female perspective it is all about the nihilistic pursuit for the chad.

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Women used to need a man for financial, social and emotional support. Now, they out-earn men (mainly because of positive discrimination), they have all sorts of social groups which they can participate, and they get emotional support from friends and degenerates like white knights and simps.

    So what is left? Animalistic, hardcore sex. Once they find a man who fits the criteria, they will open their legs in minutes for him. If not, then they won't even as much open themselves to the possibility of flirtation with such a man.

    In fact, if the bottom 95% of men try to even say hello, they will quickly get shafted to the side and she will complain immediately.

    Romance is dead. Relationships are dead. From a female perspective it is all about the nihilistic pursuit for the chad.
    And due to the time honored tradition of sex for money, especially in societies where prostitution is legal, you can have the hottie anyway. Even if you are part of the undesired 95%.

    You even get to have her easier and cheaper than Chad!

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    I see relationships as a transfer of liability and consequence. Originally, it was a marriage arrangement so the man would take care of the whimyn for life. Let's face it, society does not want to take care of anyone, men and whimyn alike. So, pair them up and make sure they take care of each other until death.

    Now, the government and society passed all consequence from whimyn's actions to men. Both were drunk and had sex? Rape and child support. You are qualified for the job, but you don't check the quota box. Whimyns' word is both law and fact, men don't even bother presenting the concrete evidecne: it won't help. You are married and then divorced, welcome to poverty and servitude for the rest of your life while she gets the cash and prizes.

    Sex was the bait for the trap. Relationships, from society's standpoint, were never about happiness and fulfillment. Rather, society wants relationships because it is the best way to extract resources from men and to not be burdened by post-Wall hags. Then the government realized that there was more to extract from men if they acted as the enforcement and transfer agent. And the rest is the shithole we have now.

    I have read excerpts from Esther Villar's The Manipulated Man and she makes this very point.

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    It used to be necessary/mandatory to be couple to raise kids. That would be the base of marriage and relationships where the path to marriage.

    But today society has created the single parent myth, destroying the core reason of marriage and relationships.
    It does not work, obviously. One person cannot give the necessary attention to kids. What happens is that kids get sent away to kids prisons (schools) where they are indoctrinated by the state and feminists to be the next feminists and manginas.

    So, relationships are dead. They now serve as a way for women to acquire kids and resources. Men are just in denial, not understanding the change that happened.

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Relationships used to be about sacrificing for the greater good by building stability for family, wealth generation and leaving behind a legacy for the next generation to carry the torch. Currently it is a Mad Max no holds barred reality where nothing will be passed on when the eternal sleep arrives and the next generation doesn't really seems to have it better than the previous one.

    This is why as a Millennial I did feel that there was an impact in my generations ability to generate wealth due to various factors. But it is also the attitude of most Millennials that fuels this apathy. Most Millennial women really are not interested in building family and wealth for long term stability.

    I look at generation Z and I see a generation that seems to understand this better and are motivated to have a stronger legacy to leave behind in 50 years from now.

    But there is too much momentum for it to be changed in that current relationships are really a struggle between sexual attraction and social credits. Most men, including myself don't fall into that pile which is why it is easy for me like others to see how stacked the deck truly is.

    Career women making their own money with masters degrees and yet they want a man that is their "equal" or greater which doesn't make sense in the slightest. Honestly, most men don't look at how many degrees a woman has, but it is the elitist attitude coming from women like this that turns off a lot of men. Women view relationships as a toolbox to grab whatever tool they need like beta bux, alpha fux, white knight delux, etc. Men view long term relationships as something for companionship, trust and reliability which are both needs but radically different needs between men and women.

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morlock View Post
    And due to the time honored tradition of sex for money, especially in societies where prostitution is legal, you can have the hottie anyway. Even if you are part of the undesired 95%.

    You even get to have her easier and cheaper than Chad!
    You can have an average girl , yes . But even rich men have to look really hard for a real hot pro .

    In most parts of the western world men have no idea what a beautiful girl is .

    If you are high then most of the girls are hot . But witness them sober and they are just ok .

    ( lol when im high i like girls with hook jewish noses )
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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boar View Post
    I see relationships as a transfer of liability and consequence. Originally, it was a marriage arrangement so the man would take care of the whimyn for life. Let's face it, society does not want to take care of anyone, men and whimyn alike. So, pair them up and make sure they take care of each other until death.

    Now, the government and society passed all consequence from whimyn's actions to men. Both were drunk and had sex? Rape and child support. You are qualified for the job, but you don't check the quota box. Whimyns' word is both law and fact, men don't even bother presenting the concrete evidecne: it won't help. You are married and then divorced, welcome to poverty and servitude for the rest of your life while she gets the cash and prizes.

    Sex was the bait for the trap. Relationships, from society's standpoint, were never about happiness and fulfillment. Rather, society wants relationships because it is the best way to extract resources from men and to not be burdened by post-Wall hags. Then the government realized that there was more to extract from men if they acted as the enforcement and transfer agent. And the rest is the shithole we have now.

    I have read excerpts from Esther Villar's The Manipulated Man and she makes this very point.
    Just a correction - business doesnt want to take care of anyone ...

    Now its good .

    ( its all business and nothing else ...the society ,the government , babies , puppies ...etc )
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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    It is not just about sex for men. Women love to shame us by claiming we only want sex, but if that was true men would just buy hookers and not waste their time trying to date. Instead we have men sacrificing literally EVERYTHING they have to offer just for a shot at love with them, and often paying a heavy price for it.

    The problem is, sex is the only thing most women have to offer, and it is the only thing they are willing to give us in exchange for all the things we do for them. I mean when you get right down to it, THAT is the real reason why men are walking away from women and marriage and going MGTOW. They are finally waking up and realizing that it is a shit deal, women are not worth it, and they are better off just going their own way and not even bothering with women anymore.

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    They bring nothing to the plate but three holes.
    As soon as she says "I do", she don't
    MOLON LABE......."Come take them"

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post
    It is not just about sex for men. Women love to shame us by claiming we only want sex, but if that was true men would just buy hookers and not waste their time trying to date. Instead we have men sacrificing literally EVERYTHING they have to offer just for a shot at love with them, and often paying a heavy price for it.

    The problem is, sex is the only thing most women have to offer, and it is the only thing they are willing to give us in exchange for all the things we do for them. I mean when you get right down to it, THAT is the real reason why men are walking away from women and marriage and going MGTOW. They are finally waking up and realizing that it is a shit deal, women are not worth it, and they are better off just going their own way and not even bothering with women anymore.
    Its like girls wanting babes to become a woman .

    By having a gf/wife you become a man .

    But its all for statusless males and females .

    To gains some status among statusless peasants .

    For a man to really hunt hot girls for sex it takes some heavy balls and loads of money .

    Ultimately a man just wants sex but since 99.9999999 have zero status or money , or power, or tough character , or looks ...that is when game of social thrones comes into play .

    To be a milimetre above next peasant .

    To take a high ground lol and take care of ugly , past her prime, landless peasant bitch ...
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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Ultimately a man just wants sex but since 99.9999999 have zero status or money , or power, or tough character , or looks ...that is when game of social thrones comes into play .

    To be a milimetre above next peasant .

    To take a high ground lol and take care of ugly , past her prime, landless peasant bitch ...
    On the fucking money mate!!
    You have 8/9 grade men literally begging to date 3/4 and once they start dating, they think they have made a massive accomplishment!!

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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Its like girls wanting babes to become a woman .

    By having a gf/wife you become a man .

    But its all for statusless males and females .

    To gains some status among statusless peasants .

    For a man to really hunt hot girls for sex it takes some heavy balls and loads of money .

    Ultimately a man just wants sex but since 99.9999999 have zero status or money , or power, or tough character , or looks ...that is when game of social thrones comes into play .

    To be a milimetre above next peasant .

    To take a high ground lol and take care of ugly , past her prime, landless peasant bitch ...
    As a little example i lived right next to my school i went , i knew every single criminal in my area and shook hand with them daily and i was liked, and protected by them , i was among the top like 15 people that ran the school ... and even then i couldnt dare to approach the top 3 hottest girls in my school .

    You dont know why exactly as a kid but you just know , well you know what will most likely follow ...

    So initially you just want sex with the hottest girls but you are so not alone on this planet and a very complex web of connections is creased for every situation .

    So when regular guys babble their nonsense about banging this or that bitch lol . This is just scavenging the leftovers . The bitch can just punch you in the face .

    So a hot bitch with a crew behind her you are not living on the same planet as her .
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    Re: Are modern relationships just about sex?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Relationships used to be about sacrificing for the greater good by building stability for family, wealth generation and leaving behind a legacy for the next generation to carry the torch. Currently it is a Mad Max no holds barred reality where nothing will be passed on when the eternal sleep arrives and the next generation doesn't really seems to have it better than the previous one.

    This is why as a Millennial I did feel that there was an impact in my generations ability to generate wealth due to various factors. But it is also the attitude of most Millennials that fuels this apathy. Most Millennial women really are not interested in building family and wealth for long term stability.

    I look at generation Z and I see a generation that seems to understand this better and are motivated to have a stronger legacy to leave behind in 50 years from now.

    But there is too much momentum for it to be changed in that current relationships are really a struggle between sexual attraction and social credits. Most men, including myself don't fall into that pile which is why it is easy for me like others to see how stacked the deck truly is.

    Career women making their own money with masters degrees and yet they want a man that is their "equal" or greater which doesn't make sense in the slightest. Honestly, most men don't look at how many degrees a woman has, but it is the elitist attitude coming from women like this that turns off a lot of men. Women view relationships as a toolbox to grab whatever tool they need like beta bux, alpha fux, white knight delux, etc. Men view long term relationships as something for companionship, trust and reliability which are both needs but radically different needs between men and women.
    It is lose-lose for a man no matter what type of woman he might marry. A traditional woman might give him the kids and the home for a while but these women will also take him to the cleaners come divorce time. Even more so as there are kids in the mix as well as her never having worked. It's like a lotto win for her.

    I've read a number of times that the new Generation coming through are more conservative than the last one. That only makes sense. Young people rebel against their parents but also they will be seeing the mess that all this PC nuttery is causing. They will be inheriting this mess at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post
    It is not just about sex for men. Women love to shame us by claiming we only want sex, but if that was true men would just buy hookers and not waste their time trying to date. Instead we have men sacrificing literally EVERYTHING they have to offer just for a shot at love with them, and often paying a heavy price for it.

    The problem is, sex is the only thing most women have to offer, and it is the only thing they are willing to give us in exchange for all the things we do for them. I mean when you get right down to it, THAT is the real reason why men are walking away from women and marriage and going MGTOW. They are finally waking up and realizing that it is a shit deal, women are not worth it, and they are better off just going their own way and not even bothering with women anymore.
    You are right. It's not just about sex for most men. What I find though is women make it about the sex. Many women lack the charm and personality to really engage a man. Add that the man is expected to pay for everything and he starts feeling like he should be entitled to something in return. The smartest thing a woman could do on a date is pay her own way, remove that sense of return entirely for the man. But we know that is just against everything women believe in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlock View Post
    It is lose-lose for a man no matter what type of woman he might marry. A traditional woman might give him the kids and the home for a while but these women will also take him to the cleaners come divorce time. Even more so as there are kids in the mix as well as her never having worked. It's like a lotto win for her.

    I've read a number of times that the new Generation coming through are more conservative than the last one. That only makes sense. Young people rebel against their parents but also they will be seeing the mess that all this PC nuttery is causing. They will be inheriting this mess at some point.



    You are right. It's not just about sex for most men. What I find though is women make it about the sex. Many women lack the charm and personality to really engage a man. Add that the man is expected to pay for everything and he starts feeling like he should be entitled to something in return. The smartest thing a woman could do on a date is pay her own way, remove that sense of return entirely for the man. But we know that is just against everything women believe in.
    That is a great observation, and you are exactly right. WOMEN are the ones who make it all about sex, not men. Really it is classic projection on their part. Women objectify themselves, then accuse men of objectifying them. It's just like how in hollywood and politics they use their sexuality to sleep their way to the top, then accuse the men they fucked in exchange for their positions or money. Or how they get drunk and fuck guys or cheat on their boyfriends then regret it, so accuse men of raping them. Or how they post thousands of pictures of themselves wearing revealing clothes online, then try to shame guys for looking at them.

    I mean it's easy to find examples of this type of behavior, because they use this kind of projection in nearly everything they do. They refuse to take any agency or accountability for their behavior, because doing so would basically reveal them as the prostitutes they are. So instead they try to turn it around on men by using the same tactics; shaming, blaming, and accusing men of doing what they are doing themselves. CLASSIC projection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morlock View Post
    It is lose-lose for a man no matter what type of woman he might marry. A traditional woman might give him the kids and the home for a while but these women will also take him to the cleaners come divorce time. Even more so as there are kids in the mix as well as her never having worked. It's like a lotto win for her.

    I've read a number of times that the new Generation coming through are more conservative than the last one. That only makes sense. Young people rebel against their parents but also they will be seeing the mess that all this PC nuttery is causing. They will be inheriting this mess at some point.



    You are right. It's not just about sex for most men. What I find though is women make it about the sex. Many women lack the charm and personality to really engage a man. Add that the man is expected to pay for everything and he starts feeling like he should be entitled to something in return. The smartest thing a woman could do on a date is pay her own way, remove that sense of return entirely for the man. But we know that is just against everything women believe in.
    Every woman is a connoisseur of sex ...

    While for men is not about sex per se but about getting it . The fact that you can get laid is the prize . The bragging rights.

    Cause 90% just wouldnt get it in the natural world without the property transfer to women . They wouldnt spread without the possibility to take your stuff along the way .

    And trying to get sex would put you in the deadly danger every time . Like going to another hood to see a girl you like ...
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