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    I may be in the minority here...

    Alright, now that I've drawn you to this thread (random laughing emoji), I may be lowkey about this but considering that I'm certain you heard of these remakes with constant rebooting and diversity changes, I'm not feeling it, hell I may be one of the very few black males that is annoyed by it. (Just so SJW media knows that it ain't only white males that are getting fed up with the Hollyweird BS) Black Spider-Man, Men In Black OH WAIT...its Man & young Woman in Black, Black Ariel from the Little Mermaid, A black female 007, how far is this rabbit hole going to go? All of this diversity casting feels like sheer pandering and completely disingenuous while improving nothing on the plot but most of the brainwashed POC just eat this all up as it it's better representation of them. Shoot why not just make a new movie or show concept based on them so they can be original characters and not just change the core of an iconic character because diversity? This is just Hollyweird not being lazy but pandering by rehashing movies with different races of characters. They never capture the magnitude of the original and it completely implodes on impact (Ghostbusters 2016 anyone?)

    I'm all for diversity but at the same time it needs to be original. Don't just go grab the script of a previously successful movie and just, "Hey, let's make this guy Black/Latinx/Asian/Gay/Non-Binary/Ascension Android confused of it's existence and run with it to see how it goes!" It's like I'm being fed scraps. All of the others can eat those leftovers all they want but I want it to be fresh if it's gonna be different. I'm strongly considering retiring from the theaters at this point because it's getting pitiful.

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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    I can understand Hollywood revisiting good movies. But The Texas chainsaw massacre, or I spit on your grave? I like bad movies, but these two never should a been made in the first place. Who thought we wanted to see those steaming turds again? Hollywood's screwed up alright.
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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    Quote Originally Posted by JaydenJazz View Post
    A black female 007,
    Yeah, I just read about that today. Bye-bye to that male space.

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    why not just make a new movie or show concept based on them so they can be original characters and not just change the core of an iconic character because diversity?
    I think that there are multiple reasons going on. The biggest one always being money. Hollywood can capitalize on the existing brand equity instead of spending the time and cost of establishing a new identity and building its equity. Of course, this fits with other instances where women loot the equity of what men have built (Ghostbusters, Thor, divorce, etc.) so you will not see women object. And, that folds into the trendy belief that symbols of patriarchy are being toppled which, coupled with the existing equity, would amplify the expected take from women at the box office.
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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    Didn't you American's try your own version of James Bond 007 - with Xander Cage XXX.

    It'd be much easier to bring out a female version of XXX than 007.

    You could call it XXXL.

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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    I was thinking.. gee, did Barbara Broccoli die? She held tight controls on how the Bond franchise plays out. She has always been very protective. She's still living. I found these recent articles:

    October 5, 2018 - A female James Bond? Never, confirms executive producer

    April 26, 2019 - Barbara Broccoli on why there won't ever be a female 007
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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Hollywood can capitalize on the existing brand equity instead of spending the time and cost of establishing a new identity and building its equity.
    Hollywood has run out of stories to tell. It's not just black men getting the leftovers and scraps - leftovers and scraps is all anyone is getting from Hollywood these days.

    Every age has its great artform, and The Movie was the great artform of the 20th century. History will place Blade Runner and Casablanca alongside the roof of the Sistine Chapel, the concertos of Mozart, the plays of Shakespeare, the Canterbury Tales, and Tolstoy's War and Peace. They are products of their time.

    The new artform seems to be the computer game. Anita Sarkesian etc are totally right to target computer games for pozzing. And the story there seems to be "fuck race, let's shoot some aliens". First person, skin yourself however you want.

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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    There's a little button or knob on all Hollywood devices, just turn or click it off and all that nonsense contradictory hypocritical inner workings of female thinking all goes away! Why look at something so damn obnoxious that it's only remembered by its absurdity?

    They're having one hell of a time trying to get their advertisement dollars to reach my well hidden eyes and ears! For every ad dollar spent reaching the average slop soaking mind they need 100 dollars to reach me with their blatant propaganda.

    Why get upset and angry at the hypocrisy when you can simply turn it off?

    The only Jill'ette ads I've seen are the ones presented in the light of truth here and allover the web. They make them, we tear them apart, that's the new function of Hollywood. Everything they produce is an exorcise for me in mind cleaning and propaganda filtering, it's not entertainment anymore, it's a tool for diabolical change.

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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    I have sworn off popular culture since the 90's. What have I missed? Not a damn thing worth my time. I also get the satisfaction of not supporting Hollywood with my dollars.

    I think we are seeing the death throes from the movie industry. Within 15 years, the average person will be able to make their own movies that will rival anything the big studios could produce. And they will have more original plots as there will be less concern over attracting advertisers. But, I doubt I will watch any of those either.

    I will be too busy riding this one-way roller coaster, screaming "weee." Enjoy the decline and don't worry about our legacy, both will edited anyway....

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    I can't remember where I saw it, but a youtuber somewhere pointed out that POC should be pissed about this new trend. They aren't getting their own characters. They are getting left overs. Hollywood is simply trying to squeeze more cash out of franchises that have already been wrung dry.

    For what it is worth, the average white person is totally open to black "superheros". What most of us don't like is when they change an existing white character. Just look at Will Smiths catalog of new superheros. Hancock, Men in Black, Independence Day... All of them did really well. Regarding women, their was Lara Croft, Hancock again, etc... CIS white males will go see that shit if it is good.

    To paraphrase Bill Burr when he talked about those white guy saves a school movies, "For the love of god, stop making that movie".

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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    There are plenty of non-white actors and have been for years...... no need to "force" the issue

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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Hollywood has run out of stories to tell. It's not just black men getting the leftovers and scraps - leftovers and scraps is all anyone is getting from Hollywood these days.

    Every age has its great artform, and The Movie was the great artform of the 20th century. History will place Blade Runner and Casablanca alongside the roof of the Sistine Chapel, the concertos of Mozart, the plays of Shakespeare, the Canterbury Tales, and Tolstoy's War and Peace. They are products of their time.

    The new artform seems to be the computer game. Anita Sarkesian etc are totally right to target computer games for pozzing. And the story there seems to be "fuck race, let's shoot some aliens". First person, skin yourself however you want.
    As someone who is a lot into computer games, I can say Anita isnt even required there. This industry is already so woke, its absolutely nuts. Pick ANY modern role playing computer game and go through its story, as someone who is red pilled, you will be puking left and right. I used to like those games, played them a lot.. now I cant, simply cant. I cant sit through even few minutes of these woke stories.

    If those stories arent overtly woke, there will be overwhelming gynocentrism, just hidden beneath the surface. If you play them, you will see it clearly, but try to tell this to some blue pilled gamer and he will think you are way overthinking a fkn game.
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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    The next Bond movie is promising to be a black Jane Bond. I won't spent $1 accessing it. I don't do "female remakes". If women are equal, they need to start writing marketable female characters and stop it with this "turn a famous guy character into a female character in the name of counting heros". There are supposed to be more male heroes. In life there are more male heros. Sure, they put that female surgeon or social worker or school teacher on the pedestal of the month, but each and every day it's men who are out risking their asses (with their "toxic masculinity) keeping the wahmen safe. Who else is going to care for all these hopeless single mothers? There are more male heroes than female ones because men are more heroic than women are. So, they should make a movie about some woman making sandwiches for Superman.
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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    Quote Originally Posted by JaydenJazz View Post
    Alright, now that I've drawn you to this thread (random laughing emoji), I may be lowkey about this but considering that I'm certain you heard of these remakes with constant rebooting and diversity changes, I'm not feeling it, hell I may be one of the very few black males that is annoyed by it. (Just so SJW media knows that it ain't only white males that are getting fed up with the Hollyweird BS) Black Spider-Man, Men In Black OH WAIT...its Man & young Woman in Black, Black Ariel from the Little Mermaid, A black female 007, how far is this rabbit hole going to go? All of this diversity casting feels like sheer pandering and completely disingenuous while improving nothing on the plot but most of the brainwashed POC just eat this all up as it it's better representation of them. Shoot why not just make a new movie or show concept based on them so they can be original characters and not just change the core of an iconic character because diversity? This is just Hollyweird not being lazy but pandering by rehashing movies with different races of characters. They never capture the magnitude of the original and it completely implodes on impact (Ghostbusters 2016 anyone?)

    I'm all for diversity but at the same time it needs to be original. Don't just go grab the script of a previously successful movie and just, "Hey, let's make this guy Black/Latinx/Asian/Gay/Non-Binary/Ascension Android confused of it's existence and run with it to see how it goes!" It's like I'm being fed scraps. All of the others can eat those leftovers all they want but I want it to be fresh if it's gonna be different. I'm strongly considering retiring from the theaters at this point because it's getting pitiful.

    It's gotten way out of hand. They may as well go through all the back catalogues of movies ever made and 'update' them to conform to current moral standards and ethnicities. Bleccchhhh! I've seen a couple of these 're-boots' thanks to TPB (I would never pay to see them) and they were disgusting.
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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    I'm not sure what you are all blathering on about...you pigs!!!

    I thought that the female remake of The Lord of the Flies....



    ...was fantastic!! Really it was. 5 STARS. Wonderfully convincing cast all round!!


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    The whole idea of female gender injection into all things masculine and visa versa is no different than someone pissing in the punch bowl of life's party! They expect us to drink-up in a haze of gaslight denial to the obvious fable called gender equality, they expect us to drink the Kool-aid!
    One cannot swallow a lie when he knows the truth, it's mentally impossible, and that gentlemen is something women are not equipped with, their hamster wheel lets them believe a lie or ignore the truth. We have mental powers and equipment women don't have, just like a real penis, it's foreign to them.

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    All I have to say is that if they remake all those old John Wayne movies, and substitute a cunt, Hollywierd will burn......
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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Knarley Bob View Post
    Hollywierd will burn......
    Of course, you mean figuratively speaking.

    Do you remember when computer colorization of black-and-white movies was the new thing? Wasn't Ted Turner a champion of that?

    Where did that idea go? Do they still do it? Do people-in-general care?
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    Ah yes, the almighty "WOKE" dollar. Let's see how well that's held up for companies like Gillette...oh wait, it hasn't!

    What annoys me more than these movies taking the ever predictable left turn is that people just perceive it as normal and if we're opposed to it, we're labeled as racists, misogynists and homophobes and then immediately blocked from their twitter page because everyone on there is too much of a bitch to debate. Forced diversity is not practical and honest, it's disingenuous pandering to cater to a small subdivision of mental midgets who ultimately might not even go to the theaters to see the movie to begin with which leads to damaging of the brand. In cases like this it makes me wish some parts of Hollywood were more like the media industry of Japan, not giving a single fuck about what people bitch about and just put your product out there.

    This is pretty much why I'm a retrohead at heart. I still have my Super Nintendo, Sega Dreamcast and PlayStation 2 which I play occasionally and I own several remastered movies that were hits during my childhood. Maybe it's me constantly going back and forth on memory lane but there's no heart into what's put out to the public anymore and the stuff that has substance takes a lot of deep digging.

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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Keyknob View Post
    Didn't you American's try your own version of James Bond 007 - with Xander Cage XXX.

    It'd be much easier to bring out a female version of XXX than 007.

    You could call it XXXL.
    Be careful with that title my dude LOL. People are gonna misconstrue that title and think it stands for Extra, extra, extra large and that lead role will be played by Melissa McCarthy. Gotta have the chubby "BBW" representation out there!

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    Re: I may be in the minority here...

    Quote Originally Posted by JaydenJazz View Post
    Be careful with that title my dude LOL. People are gonna misconstrue that title and think it stands for Extra, extra, extra large and that lead role will be played by Melissa McCarthy. Gotta have the chubby "BBW" representation out there!

    Lol

    The XXXL DID mean what you suggested.

    Big fat blue haired lesbian wobbling across the city towards a bomb that needs defusing - but calling in at McDonalds on the way.

    I've even worked out what her 'catchphrase' will be......

    "oops"


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