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    Microsoft staff are openly questioning the value of diversity . . . Damore Broke the Dam . . .

    ". . . The internal debate over the merits of diversity comes as Microsoft is grappling with an uproar over allegations of sexism and sexual harassment that some staff said the company hasn’t adequately responded to over the years. It is also a powerful glimpse into internal dissent against efforts by the world’s biggest tech companies to increase the number of women and people of color on staff, in the face of criticism that those groups are underrepresented, especially in the leadership ranks.
    The Microsoft author echoes former Google employee James Damore, who in 2017 wrote a memo that went internally viral at Google, leaning on pseudoscience to argue that women aren’t cut out for the tech industry. Damore was fired for breaching the company’s code of conduct amid enormous public and internal controversy, and Google CEO Sundar Pichai wrote in a memo that the firing was due to “advancing harmful gender stereotypes in our workplace.”
    Below is a selection of comments from the Microsoft employee, with the capitalization for emphasis in the original comments by the employee:
    “Because women used to be actively prohibited from full-time employment many decades ago, there is now the misguided belief that women SHOULD work, and if women AREN’T working, there’s something wrong…. Many women simply aren’t cut out for the corporate rat race, so to speak, and that’s not because of ‘the patriarchy,’ it’s because men and women aren’t identical, and women are much more inclined to gain fulfillment elsewhere.”
    . . . “We MUST immediately cease the practice of attaching financial incentives and performance metrics to ‘diversity hiring’ – as long as we give more money and higher annual reviews explicitly for NOT hiring/promoting white men and Asians, this will continue to be a serious problem at the company.”
    But the latest Microsoft posts are especially fraught, given Microsoft has recently pledged greater commitment to diversity and inclusion. And compounding that is the fact that the posts appeared in Microsoft’s official “CEO Connection” Yammer channel, the public forum typically used for asking questions for Nadella to answer when he speaks at company-wide meetings.
    The latest posts aren’t the only examples of active online opposition to concerns about diversity at Microsoft. In September 2018, a female employee who had just graduated from university and joined Microsoft expressed concern on Yammer about a lack of gender diversity in her department. She posted that, “As a woman in [software development], it really pains me to see the skewed gender ratio around me (I believe azure [sic] compute is less than 20% women).”
    The post racked up nearly 1,000 comments, with many male programmers jumping in to take an opposing view. As in the two posts from January and April, not all comments were anti-diversity: Some Microsoft employees argued back against their colleagues . . . "
    https://qz.com/1598345/microsoft-sta...-of-diversity/

    What is more important? Hiring male engineers who turn out a working product that people want to buy or diversity by firing or not hiring male employees? Are women in general not able to be equal to male techs? James Damore learned what happens when men ask those questions, the Social Justice Warriors attack and go for your job.







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    Re: Microsoft staff are openly questioning the value of diversity . . . Damore Broke the Dam . . .

    HR people rarely understand the people they're interviewing. They just hire the people that will make the company look good on the outside. Beware of companies with a high turnover rate.
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    Re: Microsoft staff are openly questioning the value of diversity . . . Damore Broke the Dam . . .

    Microsoft SUCKS! I'm sick and tired of ironing out the kinks they refuse to address! Outlook Sucks! Everything Microsoft does now SUCKS! Startup time and disk space for Win-10 is fucking ridiculous! Internet Explorer is as secure as leaving a pile of money on a subway train! The entire direction of Microsucks is toward the shitter headfirst! They are SLEAZY DIRTBAGS THAT HOLD YOU HOSTAGE AND CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS TO SECURE MORE PLUNDER! Nickle and dime bandits and nothing else!

    FUCK MICROSOFT!!!

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    Re: Microsoft staff are openly questioning the value of diversity . . . Damore Broke the Dam . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Joetech View Post
    HR people rarely understand the people they're interviewing. They just hire the people that will make the company look good on the outside. Beware of companies with a high turnover rate.
    I agree.

    Top three things I look at are turnover rate, benefits, then pay.

    The pay usually is good if the turnover rate is low and the benefits are generous. In the rare instance the pay is good alone it is because the work is very shady at best.

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    Re: Microsoft staff are openly questioning the value of diversity . . . Damore Broke the Dam . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Microsoft SUCKS! I'm sick and tired of ironing out the kinks they refuse to address! Outlook Sucks! Everything Microsoft does now SUCKS! Startup time and disk space for Win-10 is fucking ridiculous! Internet Explorer is as secure as leaving a pile of money on a subway train! The entire direction of Microsucks is toward the shitter headfirst! They are SLEAZY DIRTBAGS THAT HOLD YOU HOSTAGE AND CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS TO SECURE MORE PLUNDER! Nickle and dime bandits and nothing else!

    FUCK MICROSOFT!!!
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    Re: Microsoft staff are openly questioning the value of diversity . . . Damore Broke the Dam . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Microsoft SUCKS! I'm sick and tired of ironing out the kinks they refuse to address! Outlook Sucks! Everything Microsoft does now SUCKS! Startup time and disk space for Win-10 is fucking ridiculous! Internet Explorer is as secure as leaving a pile of money on a subway train! The entire direction of Microsucks is toward the shitter headfirst! They are SLEAZY DIRTBAGS THAT HOLD YOU HOSTAGE AND CHANGE YOUR SETTINGS TO SECURE MORE PLUNDER! Nickle and dime bandits and nothing else!

    FUCK MICROSOFT!!!
    I suspect they do it on purpose . While elites are using a totally different soft .

    Same as i do not believe that they cant make an iPhone battery that would last longer than just one day ...
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    Re: Microsoft staff are openly questioning the value of diversity . . . Damore Broke the Dam . . .

    I remember interviewing for a job and the company required 7 years to become vested in their 401K. How long did people usually stay with that company? About 7 years. Very telling.
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    Re: Microsoft staff are openly questioning the value of diversity . . . Damore Broke the Dam . . .

    Let them all destroy each other. I don't even care anymore.

    Google is an evil, leftist, globalist corporation which has played a very active role in the destruction of western culture. Now these women want the men to step aside, hand over their jobs as well as the business they created, so the women can turn around and run it into the ground.

    I hope they get what they want. This is the correct fate for any business that prioritizes diversity and gender over merit and competence. I hope they get what's coming to them.

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    Re: Microsoft staff are openly questioning the value of diversity . . . Damore Broke the Dam . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    I suspect they do it on purpose . While elites are using a totally different soft .

    Same as i do not believe that they cant make an iPhone battery that would last longer than just one day ...
    Smartphone batteries would last more than a day if the phones' operating systems and applications weren't such CPU hogs. One core issue is current software-engineering practices, including the languages that are used. None of the horrendous shit that's being used today would've been given anything more than laughter and derision a couple of decades ago.

    But there's more blame to go around. This current fascination with delivering "experiences" rather than supplying an operating system and applications whose only focus is to get actual work done is one root cause. Another is development time. Using sludgy, inefficient languages and libraries can shorten development time and get a product out the door faster. But, at the cost of increased power consumption.


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