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    Re: Is MGTOW too 'reductive'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Recently had a chat with a friend about female mate selection and he said that the view I held was 'reductive'. This prompted me to make this post; are MGTOW's 'reductive' or 'simplistic' with their worldview?

    Think about how we often explain attraction on this very forum.


    • Women like tall men, women aren't interested in short men.
    • Charm plays no role in female attraction, even if you lack charm and can't even hold a conversation, as long as you fit the chad stereotype women will open their legs for you.
    • Confidence is way over-rated, even if you are shy and socially awkward, as long as you are a tall/handsome, women will take an interesting you.
    • Your personality has no influence on how women think of you. You could be well groomed, with nice perfume, dressed impeccably but if you are 5'6; the majority of women will not be attracted to you. PERIOD.
    • Women aren't interested in Beta-males and never will be, so don't even waste your time.


    Well.. I myself am very guilty of thinking in this way. I still think it is the truth, which society tries to hide. However, have you ever through that maybe female-male relationship dynamics are reducible to simple explanations?

    *update: 11th May/2019 - I meant to say aren't reducible to simple explanations? in the above.

    Or is the reductive reasoning method really simple and straightforward and dangerous for society, which is why they try to manipulate us out of it?
    I always have to laugh at Blue Pill "deep thinkers" who tell short, fat unemployed guys they need to develop MORE SELF CONFIDENCE because tall, attractive, fit, wealthy guys who get lots of pussy are as CONFIDENT AS HELL. Ergo, if you just work on your confidence you too will become tall, attractive, fit and wealthy! lolololol.

    I think they got the chicken and egg backwards on THAT one lol.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: Is MGTOW too 'reductive'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    I always have to laugh at Blue Pill "deep thinkers" who tell short, fat unemployed guys they need to develop MORE SELF CONFIDENCE because tall, attractive, fit, wealthy guys who get lots of pussy are as CONFIDENT AS HELL. Ergo, if you just work on your confidence you too will become tall, attractive, fit and wealthy! lolololol.

    I think they got the chicken and egg backwards on THAT one lol.
    You wont become tall or wealthy but being scared/awkward in social situations is very visible . Thats how humans single each other out for bullying . Its natural .

    Cheekiness is the second happiness .

    There is no draw among humans , its not soccer . Its either you or someone else .

    Your choice .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Is MGTOW too 'reductive'?

    Gynocentrism is ouroboros. It will consume itself.

    Generalizations are logical fallacies. But logical fallacies are only untrue when argued a certain way. That is why like slippery slope arguments they can end up being true even if the argument or approach used is a logical fallacy.

    But generalizations may not be true 100% of the time like AWALT. But enough women are like that which is satisfactory for a person's world view to formulate the genesis of a universal understanding of how men and women interact with one another at an individual level and at a collective social level.
    Last edited by Azure Nomad; May 15, 2019 at 1:07 PM.

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    Re: Is MGTOW too 'reductive'?

    The trouble with AWALT is EWALT, and the fact that all women, no matter how nice TODAY, are equally weaponized by the government, family law courts and divorce industry to detroy a man's life.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: Is MGTOW too 'reductive'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    The trouble with AWALT is EWALT, and the fact that all women, no matter how nice TODAY, are equally weaponized by the government, family law courts and divorce industry to detroy a man's life.
    Lol, so... EHALT? (Enough Humans Are Like That)?

    Cause that's how I see it. The gynocracy would come crashing down without the willing slaves to enable/enforce it.
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

    Abandon the Abandoners. Go Your Own Way, on a molecular scale. <3

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    Re: Is MGTOW too 'reductive'?

    Once you open your eyes and get rid of the bullshit, you don't need to do anything.

    Fuck all that "Women are special" shit. They are no different than us(except for the obvious). Lots of men put too much thought into women. This may sound odd or shall I say kinda gay but I treat women no different than a man. The same way I kid & joke around with a man, I do the same with a woman without that "trying to impress her" shit. I've had female doctors hit on me once I stopped caring. Stop with that "Oh you got to be tall and rich to have women notice you" shit. Sure it helps but take these example from a few days ago.

    I had to visit my mother in the hospital for Mother's Day. Everyone there knows her quite well so they know she is fiesty. When I arrived, I saw the nurses & doctors there with her. I jokingly said "Is it safe to come in?" The female doctor looked at me with a puzzled smile & said "Why not?" I joked "I see Hannibal Lecter is out of her cell without any restraints(joking about my mom). I will step out side while you lock her in". The doctor did that women thing will they roll their head and laugh so did the nurses. They invited me in & joked with me. We chatted a little bit and the doctor jokingly swatted me with her chart on the way out & said "Keep it up and I will have to lock you in a padded cell ya nut." I replied "They tried that. I chewed my way out.". She left laughing. When I was signing out after the visit, she kept flirting with me and even said "You have a great sense of humor. I like that in a man". That was the first time meeting that doctor. But I met the other nurses before. When they see me its not the usual "Hi! Room 234". Now its a "HEY!! whats up? How ya been?" with a big smile.

    My point is to just be yourself. Don't think you have to impress her or you have to compete. Try it with a female store cashier. She will love the conversation even if its just petty humor. Women are always getting complimented on their looks. So treat her like she is one of the guys. She will appreciate it.


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