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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut View Post
    He's a blogger or some kinda shit. Everything he posts here, he posts elsewhere, word for word, copy and paste. Appears smart but he really isn't... neurogastroimmunology huh... sounds like one of those hicks who believe that milk is the source of all disease in mankind.

    Here:

    https://www.reddit.com/user/potatorockstar/posts/


    Same person.
    I remember his posts. I think he got banned from r/MGTOW so now he has to post his drivel in r/MGTOW2
    Oh, please. Not this shit. I noticed he was quite prolific here but I didn't read his tsunami of words. Like Boar said, we're begin used.

    Men Without Chains. A group identity. Yeah, that fits. He's looking for a following.
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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Oh, please. Not this shit. I noticed he was quite prolific here but I didn't read his tsunami of words. Like Boar said, we're begin used.

    Men Without Chains. A group identity. Yeah, that fits. He's looking for a following.
    He won't get a following from me. The 1st post in this thread really got to me & came off as trollish. I always have stated on here that I am a Live & Let live type of guy. Live your life as you see fit cause YOLO.

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    He won't get a following from me. The 1st post in this thread really got to me & came off as trollish. I always have stated on here that I am a Live & Let live type of guy. Live your life as you see fit cause YOLO.
    I tried to give Mr. Chains a fair chance, even though he struck me as a windbag. That was a mistake, but since no innocent rookies were called names, I guess it was the right thing to do. Wasn't long before Mr. Chains showed their true colors anyway, so there was no need to unload on him too early. Except then we might a had a little less of his leadership. Still, it was right to give the toe rag a chance, even if it didn't pan out.


    That's the thing. Like others have pointed out, trolls gotta troll.
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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    A big reason why Roosh V burned out was because he tried to dicate a direction for men to follow. Redpill reddit was quarantined because it was turning into a PUA sub. RSD and other PUA channels shifted to self improvement for men to follow.

    But the truth is men don't need leaders to follow.

    Men just need to follow their gut instinct and what their heart tells them to do.

    This is why I am an advocate of self improvement but I never dictate or mandate my point of view.

    It is easy to tell someone how to live their life. But it is harder to lead by example.

    Right now MWC you are not leading by example if you have to say it but not show it.

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    What bothers me about you is that you don't seem to relent, its as though you have to keep hammering away and finally get us all to conform to your ideal of what MGTOW should be.
    If he/she gets even one man away from MGTOW, or dilutes the ideology enough to cause some friction; he has achieved his target. That is what you have to have your wits about you when dealing with these types.

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut View Post
    He's a blogger or some kinda shit. Everything he posts here, he posts elsewhere, word for word, copy and paste. Appears smart but he really isn't... neurogastroimmunology huh... sounds like one of those hicks who believe that milk is the source of all disease in mankind.

    Here:

    https://www.reddit.com/user/potatorockstar/posts/


    Same person.
    I remember his posts. I think he got banned from r/MGTOW so now he has to post his drivel in r/MGTOW2
    Ah, I remember the hate for milk, because white people are the only ones who can properly digest it, so naturally it's Satan's Juice! KILL ALL WYPIPO!
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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    It might even be a woman. I vote to send it to the gulag. We will never get that time back that we wasted on this theif. Throw her into the gulag.

    Alik where are u komrade? Send MWC to the the most isolated gulag in Siberia please

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    I don't care if anyone considers me MGTOW or not. I'm going my own way because:

    -it is the only option I have to preserve my self-interest and protect myself legally and financially.

    -there is no incentive to fill the role my ancestors who built this country and every civilization in the world once did, and instead I would be punished severely for it.

    -women bring nothing but problems, risk, and unnecessary drama to a man's life, and offer absolutely zero long-term value. Marrying, impregnating, or even living with one is emotional, financial, and possibly even literal suicide. I refuse to subject myself to it, and risk everything I spent my life working my ass off to build for myself. I know my value, and I am worth more than that.

    -because I am sick and goddamn tired of other people trying to shame me, guilt me, insult me, tell me what to do, and tell me how I'm supposed to live my life. I came here to ESCAPE that, not to be subjected to the same treatment just by a different idealogue. I live for MYSELF, and no one else.

    So call it what you like. I'm living my life the best way I know how, based 100% on achieving my own dreams, goals, and rational self-interest. That is what brought me here. I claim no ideology, and I do not need to in order to live my life the way I am doing now. That's all there is to it.

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post
    I don't care if anyone considers me MGTOW or not. I'm going my own way because:

    -it is the only option I have to preserve my self-interest and protect myself legally and financially.

    -there is no incentive to fill the role my ancestors who built this country and every civilization in the world once did, and instead I would be punished severely for it.

    -women bring nothing but problems, risk, and unnecessary drama to a man's life, and offer absolutely zero long-term value. Marrying, impregnating, or even living with one is emotional, financial, and possibly even literal suicide. I refuse to subject myself to it, and risk everything I spent my life working my ass off to build for myself. I know my value, and I am worth more than that.

    -because I am sick and goddamn tired of other people trying to shame me, guilt me, insult me, tell me what to do, and tell me how I'm supposed to live my life. I came here to ESCAPE that, not to be subjected to the same treatment just by a different idealogue. I live for MYSELF, and no one else.

    So call it what you like. I'm living my life the best way I know how, based 100% on achieving my own dreams, goals, and rational self-interest. That is what brought me here. I claim no ideology, and I do not need to in order to live my life the way I am doing now. That's all there is to it.
    And THAT ^^^^ is MGTOW!

    Great post.

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Happy Bachelor, MGTOW, Confirmed Bachelor, single, etc this has been around longer than most can remember. MGTOW isn't a new phenomena it has existed thousands of years from ancient times.

    The rediscovery of such knowledge is what makes it interesting as it lines up with the rise of social media which exposes everything (women, white knights, trad cons, .gov, etc).

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    People can say whatever they want, they can expect me to do whatever they want, but if they can’t stop me from just walking away from it all, then who is going to have the last laugh? Zoidberg, that’s who.

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    That part in the acronym what is it again oh yeah... Men Going Their Own Way -That pretty much sums it up for me. Their Own Way part especially. Other wise it would be Men Going Someone Else's Way, wouldn't it?

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by MenWithoutChains View Post
    Warning, triggering ensues for those that dont do well with introspection. The righteous men will take this article as a spark for contemplation. They are personal opinions though so they are open to discussion in a civilized, and well thought manner.

    We have a lot of content about what MGTOW avoids, but very little about what it is. Imo there are some requirements for your detachment from women to be considered MGTOW, and dome red flags that may display you use the label to cover some problems:

    1) If you are a MGTOW because you never learnt to socialise with women, you are NOT a MGTOW.

    2) If you are a MGTOW because a couple women hurt you in the past and you irrationaly demonised them all you are NOT a MGTOW you are just scared and scarred.

    3) If you are a chad that found at last a paradigm that excuses his pump and dump empty lifestyle you are NOT a MGTOW.

    4) If you are a totalitarianist that finds haven in the extremism of the antisystemic paradigm, you are NOT a MGTOW.

    5)If you do it from a lower consciousness base of "watching the world burn" the same way that you burn inside, you are NOT a MGTOW.

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    MGTOW you are when you sacrifice being around women for a higher purpose, like monks do.

    MGTOW you are when you serve a circle much greater than yours encompassing humanity as a whole like Tesla, Davinci etc who dedicated their life to art and science.

    MGTOW you are when you avoid women by choice and from a place of inner power, abundance and intergrity.

    MGTOW you are when you do it out of empathy and sacrifice to not bring sons in this gynocentric cuck world or from self awareness of knowing and admitting you personally are not suitable for parenthood. (Because many people aren't).

    MGTOW you are when your motto is activism and not nihilism, and when you stand up for the needs of your fellow men. Not when you find it as an excuse to hide in a safe basement.

    MGTOW you are when even for love of women themselves you dont seek to exploit them in their current broken state and give the room for repetance.

    So imo "true MGTOWship" has some premises, and its not easy to be met. It's more a transition, a dynamic lifetime process than a switch on, switch off thing. The dominant inclinations though are the ones that put you in one side of the two that are seperated with a thin thread. Pathology, and liberation. You can either experience MGTOW as a pathology and scapegoat for the most part, or as steep uphill path of virtue.
    Like a self-pleasing list from a female journalist in a magazine for a female audience. With a lot of pseudo philosophical flavour. Trying to explain simple things artificially complicated like it's rocket science. To pamper the bigheaded female readers...

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    I wonder if Mr. Chains will give us any more pearls of wisdom. Somehow, I don’t think he was expecting this massacre.

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystic Rodent View Post
    I wonder if Mr. Chains will give us any more pearls of wisdom. Somehow, I don’t think he was expecting this massacre.
    I've been skeptical of this member for a while now and I think they have finally come out as troll.

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    My gut tells me he'll be back. But the reactions here only show MGTOW is a mindset that can stand a bit of criticism and shaming. It's not a weak, passing idea. Not a fad. It is something we feel passionate about.
    Shame is a womans primary weapon. Watch for it, and call it out wherever you see it. Few women know how to handle a man immune to shame.

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Morlock View Post
    I've been skeptical of this member for a while now and I think they have finally come out as troll.
    I dont think he was a troll, he was more of a missionary visiting the wild lands to convert the heathen.

    Bringing all these stray sheep back to the plantation...

    The problem with most firm believers is that they cannot deal with contrary arguments. Because deep down they fear that they belief is not so firm...

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    MGTOW is as simple as a morning rain shower.

    1) You have an awakening through either exposure or experience that leads you to KNOW that how you were told things work is not how things really work.
    2) In response to this new knowledge, and seeing how things really work, you make changes in your philosophy towards life that are in your best interests.
    3) You come to realize that there was nothing wrong with looking out for your own best interests in the first place.

    I don't think it matters how a man came to become MGTOW, whether it's by becoming Red Pilled, or "aware" or "awake". The point is we are here. Think of animals running, en masse, from forest fire - they really only have ONE thing in common. They're running for their lives and they are running in the same direction: away from the fire. Some of us are running faster than others, some are going in different directions. But the ultimate direction, societally speaking, is AWAY.

    We are going OUR way which is Away from THEIR way.

    I don't concern myself with the extent to which a specific MGTOW gives of himself to others. That's actually a very slippery slope, because as men we're expected to GIVE certain amounts of ourselves to others, to a greater community. First, with the incentive This, while women are (at best) concerned with their own children or really just how pleasurable their experience is of the world. They're here to experience pleasure, and we're here to provide it for them. And, historically we have. And now we're being shit on for the privilege. So, although I do things for my community, and for others (and my own kids of course) there is more to me than just a philanthropic giver. I have interests and needs of my own. My work gives me a great creative outlet that pays me quite well at the same time. I have hobbies I think are enjoyable and rewarding - hobbies that most women would consider to be trivial, or a waste of money, just like I think their retail therapy or shoe collection or thickness of granite counter-top is trivial.

    Life is about give and take, but I see a WHOLE COHORT of women now who are in a take, take and take some more mindset. They don't see themselves as takers, because you can't see that when you have an innate sense of entitlement. "Oh, I have a tuna hole between my legs. I make babies. I get stuff. People just like me."Uh huh.

    Men are expected to give and give, and then give more when there is nothing left, and then if he has a heart attack or turns to the drink, or kills himself, then they say "Well, he GAVE wrong TOO, because he didn't have boundaries and nobody respected him." Hmmm... If I don't give everyone what they want, they don't respect me. If I don't set boundaries, they don't respect me, but I can't give them everything they're asking for with these boundaries in place. So, what does this mean? It means I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I don't, and the best way to deal with people who want to push into THAT corner is to simply cut them right out of my life.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    I don't believe it is possible for a MGTOW man to ever be "triggered".
    "To marry means to halve oneís rights and double oneís duties" - Arthur Schopenhauer "
    "A bachelor is a man who didnít make the same mistake once."

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    Re: You ARE a MGTOW when. You are NOT a MGTOW when. (IMO)

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalBachelor View Post
    I don't believe it is possible for a MGTOW man to ever be "triggered".
    Bingo!

    What the plantation guys fail to see is that with swallowing the red pill comes the recognition of the societal shaming tactics.

    Therefore the saying: MGTOW eat shaming language like tic-tacs.


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