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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    I couldn't help but to chuckle, it's as if the OP is trying to stir the shit pot. I can easily tell that dude is new to this shit, nobody with even the base level of MGTOW knowledge would have either the unmitigated gall or the thoughtlessness to post that. Anyone who has at least a well conditioned mental mindset can easily tell between MGTOWs and Incels based on mannerisms. MGTOWs are indifferent to women and relationships while Incels tend to show moments of weakness in which they would overvalidate a woman just because he lacks experience. Granted there are gonna be incels that will infiltrate this side of the Red Pill and play the role but the true colors come out in due time and it's quicker than most people would think.

    bcroger2 should be paying more attention when class is in session instead of sleeping through it.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    Some of us "can't" get laid because there's nothing out there worth sticking our dicks into. Would you suggest we should all have a Bill Cosby notch count? Behavior like that lands one in jail. How many years behind bars is pussy worth to YOU?
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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    "You mean like how feminists are *relationship* incels? Can't get a man to commit?"

    Never defend. Only attack.
    This is exactly right. Anytime a man says anything negative about a woman, the premise erupts that 'he is da incel'. Meanwhile, women complain and rage, hold double standards, and somehow the premise is 'they are complaining due to some injustice'.

    Natural Law is on our side. THAT should be the defining premise whenever a feminist rears her ugly head. It might be why there is targeting of 'biological gender' because that biological premise is hurting their 'cause'.
    They intentionally say what we 'ought' to do instead of what we could do. For if the lion discovers his own strength, he will become uncontrollable.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    Q:What's the difference between a morbidly obese man and a morbidly obese woman, both of whom are single by choice?
    A: The morbidly obese woman will find SOME super-thirsty idiot to try and find her over-sized mold hole within that sea of rolls.

    The obese man might not even be able to pay for it.

    For me, standards ARE a factor. I've seen women in my "league" and I wouldn't fuck them with a dildo on a pole while wearing a wet-suit. And cottage-cheese all over a 40+ woman, I get that. On a 25 year old woman? Pft. Get on that treadmill honey. Then again, that's to say in today's tilted Tinder-fucked mating arena I'm looking "SMV minus 2" for my so-called league. So yeah, I'd need to up my game to a 7 or strong 6 just to be compatible with anything remotely fuckable. Even then, 90% of the women in that league will be some level of overweight which is a deal breaker for me. I have never, and will never, fuck fat. A little strip of fat on my steak - that's as far as I'll go. So, I have one of two choices: Lift, earn more, dress better, make my place more female-friendly, get hip social circle, and get that fun-guy spending CA$H out! (NOPE!!!). OR, I can just go out and pay for it. Have sex with an 8 who likes getting paid to fuck and be done with it.

    Really, as a formerly married guy the best I could hope for was a good fuck once a month and really towards the end it was a sad fuck once a month. The cost of a good prostitute may be higher, but the value has never been better. I think it all boils down to that.

    For me, due to MGTOW belief, blood pressure meds, a cholesterol med, general disdain for b1tchy cottage-cheese women and stress and lack of time due to kids and work, my libido is pretty much shot anyways. And god knows - it's a total blessing.

    I really feel for men who still have the itch.
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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    "I've noticed that many MGTOW are actually guy's who can't get laid even if they wanted to. "

    I've noticed some people who come here probably aren't MGTOW.
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    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    It seems most of the fellow gentleman on this forum think bcRgoer is a troll.
    I would gather he is just a really young guy who is still in between several perspectives.

    He didn't follow the rules about the intro - so I guess it's only right to ban him. But I do think he is just young and lacks knowledge about women and the world in general.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    The first post after the op should have been "No most mgtow are divorced men who have been fucked over in the courts and by ex bitches"


    If you are the first few seasons of big bang theory and could not get it no matter how hard you went at it,.....don't know what to tell you. Women are not faithful and getting one to spread is just a simple matter of putting in a little time.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    It seems most of the fellow gentleman on this forum think bcRgoer is a troll.
    I would gather he is just a really young guy who is still in between several perspectives.

    He didn't follow the rules about the intro - so I guess it's only right to ban him. But I do think he is just young and lacks knowledge about women and the world in general.
    I don't think he's a troll...he's just a frustrated incel. His previous posts pretty much prove that. He'd come in, complain that he is in college, cannot get laid, the girls are mean to him, etc...then he'd just disappear and completely ignore all the helpful replies and advice he got from everyone here.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    I don't think he's a troll...he's just a frustrated incel. His previous posts pretty much prove that. He'd come in, complain that he is in college, cannot get laid, the girls are mean to him, etc...then he'd just disappear and completely ignore all the helpful replies and advice he got from everyone here.
    At his age, it isn't easy. Heck it isn't easy for me seeing these changes.

    Sex and just generally ''having fun'' wasn't too complicated 10/20 years ago. You could strike up a convo and if you looked half-decent, then you get your share of the pie. You didn't half the anti-male climate you have now. Now even sexuality is 'politicised' or 'transactionalised'.

    Sometimes, I think we need to be more understanding. But he of course has to follow the rules about intros.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    At his age, it isn't easy. Heck it isn't easy for me seeing these changes.

    Sex and just generally ''having fun'' wasn't too complicated 10/20 years ago. You could strike up a convo and if you looked half-decent, then you get your share of the pie. You didn't half the anti-male climate you have now. Now even sexuality is 'politicised' or 'transactionalised'.

    Sometimes, I think we need to be more understanding. But he of course has to follow the rules about intros.
    I do agree that life was simpler before the internet and rise of social media. But that is a double edged sword in that a lot of what we now know was hidden because of the lack of internet and social media.

    PUAs that practiced game for example before the rise of social media already knew how women were playing the field and the game better and earlier then men with dating, business,, etc.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    I do agree that life was simpler before the internet and rise of social media.
    Excellent point about social media. Women have way more options and what may have been considered a 'nice guy' worthy of a one night stand is probably now considered a creep or a 'compromise'.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Sometimes, I think we need to be more understanding.
    At least here, I think we already are understanding, as seen in this thread. But, if you mean he doesn't get to know this, he can read this thread by continuing to lurk as he did between his posts, and talk to us in Nonmember Questions and Opposing Views where the expectation of "controversial" questions asked by someone who does not participate in the discussion he created could be more readily understood.

    Otherwise, no, we can't waive the Intro in lieu of these options.
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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    At least here, I think we already are understanding, as seen in this thread. But, if you mean he doesn't get to know this, he can read this thread by continuing to lurk as he did between his posts, and talk to us in Nonmember Questions and Opposing Views where the expectation of "controversial" questions asked by someone who does not participate in the discussion he created could be more readily understood.

    Otherwise, no, we can't waive the Intro in lieu of these options.
    Yes, agreed. What I meant by 'understanding' is not to be too hasty in branding this or that person as 'incel'. But to understand why such a person would ask such a question in the first place.

    Yes, there are trolls, incels, PUA, purple pillers etc. But I think in this case, this guy sounds so young and just generally not knowing much about the world - which leads his to ask naive questions.

    We were all there once. Even I have posted several 'dumb' posts. But how can we learn, if we don't ask even the silliest of questions?

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    During an argument for a woman to call a man an incel is like dropping the A-bomb for them, they go for it without even trying to descalate with other lesser insults.

    Personally I have no tolerance or patience for attacks like that wheter its true or not especially if theres other people around, when its the case I go for the "fat spinster" retaliation and they remain speechless and unable to do or say anything.

    They already used their top weapons while being completely unprepared to the answer, I made some of them cry especially since most of the women above 25 are overweight.

    Calling a woman "slvt" its not a strong insult cause it implies that she has men willing to pay to have sex with her, it means her best asset is working.

    What harms them is being devaluated in their desiderability, fat and spinster are not dirty words and you can use them in every day speeches yet are annihilating on a woman ego.

    I still recall when I was a kid there was a fat girl who said to one of my friends "I saw your d1ck and its very small" and everybody laughted, then he simply replied "good for you cause thats the only d1ck you will ever see in your life" and then everybody stopped and looked at her, you could see from her face that got struck really really hard especially cause she wasnt that good looking either.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    They already used their top weapons while being completely unprepared to the answer, I made some of them cry especially since most of the women above 25 are overweight.
    Personally speaking, when I see a woman, any woman, even if she is not 'attractive'; I try to find something attractive about her and magnify it as much as possible.

    Maybe because of my Middle Eastern background; I don't get all the 'spark' and 'chemistry' stuff in the west. I think it is peculiar to the western (and modern) culture.

    Every human must have something nice about them, so why not see the good in people?

    Unfortunately, women, very often do judge men 'superficially' and so it is only right that we judge women superficially as well. If some cunt were to be abusive to me, then I would insult her where it hurts which is usually as Jackal mentions - their looks and external appearance.

    It's a shame, but you have to fight fire with fire sometimes.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    I see women as they see me. Wish cold, harsh unforgiving scrutiny. And I see through their physical and psychological camouflage with ease - there is no make-up or behavior or magic veneer that can hide their true nature from me now.

    After going full Red Pill and going MGTOW, I now take what women say with a grain of salt.

    "Do not listen to what women say, but observer their actions instead. And always follow the money."
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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    I still don't see why we make it a "MGTOW vs Incel" thing. An Incels best option is to adopt the MGTOW philosophy. It is their only salvation. Also, MGTOW don't emerge fully formed. In my estimation it is a life long process. This is largely because feminine tactics continue to evolve.

    Right now, it might be wise to avoid women at work. You know damn well though, at some point doing that will be viewed as sexual harassment. You dare not acknowledge the presence of her royal highness? Off with your head.

    Anyway, what we really should separate are actual Incels from lazy asses. I see this guy around town. He is both ugly and dumb. I don't say this to disparage the guy. One of the places I see him is at the gym. He's actually fairly strong. "Hit the gym bro" doesn't apply. He is simply genetically unfortunate. Men like him need a genuine strategy for dealing with all of the shit life is going to met out to them. Is there another answer besides MGTOW? I can't think of one.

    Focusing on himself and forgetting what other people think of him is his only salvation, and it is a damn good one at that.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    In a way I see the supposed "Incel" as a very lucky man. He will not have the opportunity to be seduced with sex and believe that it is love only to find out that he has been scammed by someone that he cared about. The unfortunate aspect of being an "Incel" is that it will also be more difficult for him to realize just how lucky he is to have avoided heartbreak, betrayal, and divorce rape precisely because he hasn't experienced these things.

    So if one is an Incel, I would recommend that he work toward becoming an enlightened Incel that can learn from the experiences of non-incels that he is indeed the fortunate one.

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    Re: Are many MGTOW just incels who pretend that they choose to be single?I know this

    The OP asks a question that someone who's been taught to believe that a man's true worth is based on his notch count would ask. He's not MGTOW. His wife probably told him to post that. Or, maybe there is no such person as the OP. Maybe he is a she?
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