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    MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Nah, I'm kidding.

    Anyhow, HuffPo has a list for why you should get married and almost all of the entries on that list imply inevitable divorce. They aren't even hiding the fact that there's no point anymore.

    The list:


    1. Half of the marital assets upon divorce
    2. Automatic right to inherit from your spouse
    3. Ownership of property as tenants by the entireties, which is only available to married couples (and not in every state), and provides greater protection from creditors and one another
    4. Immigration benefits for your fiancé or spouse
    5. Social security benefits from your spouse (or ex-spouse)
    6. Family medical leave benefits, if your spouse gets sick
    7. Filing joint federal income taxes (beware that this can also be a major DISadvantage of marriage as, depending on your respective incomes, there are marriage penalties or bonuses)
    8. Benefiting from the legal presumption that children born into the marriage are legal children of both parents (though it is strongly recommended to button up parental rights with an adoption or parentage judgment)
    9. Providing health insurance to an employee’s spouse without it being taxable income to employee
    10. Transferring property at divorce without it being subject to transfer tax and providing alimony/spousal support deductible by the payor and includible as income to the payee
    11. Transferring wealth in life or at death without incurring gift or estate tax
    12. Having standing to sue for wrongful death, loss of consortium, and other claims that can only be brought by a surviving or injured spouse
    13. Deferring income taxes on an inherited IRA or other qualified retirement plan, delaying having to take the Required Minimum Distribution and benefiting from hardship withdrawals
    14. Joint bankruptcy protection
    15. Wealthy individuals having many more estate planning options such as gift splitting, QTIP, QDOT, credit shelter or A/B trusts


    Source: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0cf3c8e8d58eb

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    I only read the Muffpo cause its enemy intel.

    Sounds like the sort of "projection" roasties love to do.

    I'm taking a relaxing train ride home..not madly fighting traffic.. cause the kids I dont have dont need me to pick them up or watch them. I can let others do the transport duty and I can surf or read all the way home.
    Nor does the wife I don't have get to give me a list of shit.

    I am going to go home..have smoked pork chops and milk (!!!) and waste my evening doing exactly what I want (which is smoking crazy good marijuana and pretending I'm an Airbender/Shaolin Master!).

    Any woman is a bitch if you gotta live with her.
    I fail to see how wifing up anyone is going to lessen my load.. it will only add to it.

    Cracker gonna have to pass yo.
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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Yeah, this one is designated as Number One on the list:

    Half of the marital assets upon divorce
    Then, there's this:

    Benefiting from the legal presumption that children born into the marriage are legal children of both parents
    And just how is this a benefit that it needs to be pointed out in this way? The author is clearly talking to women, including lesbian couples. It is telling heterosexual women that their husband is legally stuck supporting children when she screws around on him and gets pregnant.
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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Three generations ago, the lefties wanted to destroy marriage. Now that it provides very few benefits and great risks for the productive members of society, they have to try to convince you to maintain it.

    A mere decade ago, HuffPo would have been one of those "fish, bicycle" mouthpieces.

    In my short lifetime, I have watched the arc of the progressives stand on marriage. Just a few decades ago, they decried it as a stifling, soul crushing prison for women. Now that the princess has removed the bridle, the horse realizes it is a just a plow horse and has fled the plantation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAeSTsDc4qE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kUlUiAbjg8 I am reminded of this transformation.
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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Lesbian author.

    Elizabeth F. Schwartz is an American attorney, author and advocate for the legal rights of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community.

    She is married to another woman, Lydia Martin.

    "To marry means to halve one’s rights and double one’s duties" - Arthur Schopenhauer "
    "A bachelor is a man who didn’t make the same mistake once."

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalBachelor View Post
    Lesbian author.

    Elizabeth F. Schwartz is an American attorney, author and advocate for the legal rights of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community.

    She is married to another woman, Lydia Martin.

    Usually, the most recent converts to a church/cult/time share/diet are the most strident, evangelical about it. Letting gays into the club is a last ditch effort, and opens up a great new source of revenue for the state.....

    .....and attorneys, like the author. Divorce, real estate, trust, estate planning.....all new lucrative fields opened up to a new demographic....blue pilled LGBTs that are going to learn about the perils of Family Court.
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    How do you look out for someone you love? How do you shelter their dreams? How do you cherish their innocence? How do you guide them through life? How do you watch over their travels? How do you show them you care? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd8PLHa6ec8

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Usually, the most recent converts to a church/cult/time share/diet are the most strident, evangelical about it. Letting gays into the club is a last ditch effort, and opens up a great new source of revenue for the state.
    Agreed. Those who are in the divorce industry will benefit immensely.
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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Yep, going into 2018 it's still VERY PROFITABLE for even modern "strong independent" college edumacated wimminz to get married, it's still the SINGLE WORST DECISION a living male can make in his entire life.

    2018 is year of JUST SAY NO to marriage guys!
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    I wish they'd put the crack pipe down. There is no benefit for men. Remember .....It's HER day, HER bridal shower, HER children, SHE had children FOR him, SHE plans the wedding, everyone talks about how SHE looked, etc. When you are married its nothing but constant shit. You bust your balls working and trying to make a better life while she just breezes through life. Like the old saying says.....HE should support her(and the kids if any), its time HE mans up, etc. The bullshit of "Women mature faster than men" is bullshit.


    If SHE makes a false abuse claim then EVERYONE believes HER. My ex cunt of a wife was very violent and loved to hit me. Did anyone care? NO! My own mother would just say "Did you hit her back?" and I would say "No" because I never did. All my mother would do is say "Ok" while I was in front of her with bruises. The divorce is even more brutal. Her lying, cheating, and illegal activities can't not be used against her even with proof and you will be told to shut up. My cunt of an ex wife used to do illegal shit with her government money and I had solid proof. Know what the judge told me? "I don't care. Take it up with the state police!". But the judge believed the rape and abuse charges against me even though I was 2 fucking counties away when the alleged incident took place. I BEG! I PLEAD! I AM ON MY FUCKING KNEES HERE!!! DON'T EVER GET MARRIED!!!

    If you think you will get constant pussy when you're married then you are smoking crack! If you must have pussy then hire an escort. It's the best thing. She gets your money and you get her pussy without all the bullshit dating and other shit.

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    It may be true that if you are married, the government will take less of your money.

    But what this person fails to understand is that (for a man), if you are married your wife will take it all. Having a wife will cost you fat more than you will save on tax.

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Benefiting from the legal presumption that children born into the marriage are legal children of both parents (though it is strongly recommended to button up parental rights with an adoption or parentage judgment)
    Holy shit. Holy shit. It has gotten to the point that you would be wise to get the courts to certify that your kids are actually yours, and that if you don't then - well - random shit might go down. The judiciary has become that intrusive into people's everyday lives.

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    the only ones who "benefit" from marriage are women..... men are hung out to dry one way or another....
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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    the only ones who "benefit" from marriage are women..... men are hung out to dry one way or another....
    Not just women....everyone who caters to women.

    Stefan Molyneux tells us that "A man's penis is his job, a woman's vagina is her house."

    When men marry, the wives control 70% of the spending. "I don't care what it costs. You are going to buy me the engagement ring I want." "Buy me a new house. No, we can't put the old furniture into the new house." "No, you can't wear those clothes anymore." "Sell the hot rod/pick up truck. Buy a car I like." "I don't like this kitchen anymore. Let's remodel it."

    Jewelry stores, caterers, bakers, house builders, bankers, furniture makers, landscapers, etc. Everyone benefits when the less rational member of these millions of economic units get into a spending war with each other. Why do you think that they call it keeping up with "the Joneses?" That means Mr. and Mrs. Jones, plural, married couple, not Mr. Jones, bachelor.
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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Watching old movies from the 1950s and 60s over Christmas break I realized that while life during that time period had a level of normalcy it was also a life where both man and woman sacrificed for building a family which is what marriage used to be about. The husband in these movies was depicted of being a balding man in his early to mid 40s while the wife was a 20 something housewife. The children received strict discipline but also free time to listen to radio before bed time or even to go play outside before supper.

    Everyone did their part and no one was oppressed.

    These days most people in the western world look down on a man that is much older than a woman that he marries, because they don't see the trade between resources and fertility. All they see is how a woman like this should give up on that "starter" marriage and go for a younger man that gives her tingles. A younger man that would be in just as much in school loan debt, less resources and less maturity to handle the child like outbursts from a young woman. Worse, a lot of times women trade down and this is where they can't even use hypergamy to their advantage.

    What I also realized was that if a man was starting a family in his early to mid 40s it means he was willing to sacrifice the rest of his precious time on earth for children and wife with little or no room for retirement That is not exactly a utopian trade off for a man that worked to his grave, but I can understand why men like this made that choice in the 50's and 60's. In comparison, a young 20 something housewife gained resources, off spring, and a chance to remarry within 30 years, so even the supposedly "oppressed' housewife of the 50s and 60s ended up with the better end of the deal via marriage back then.

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    I was just a kid back then, and for sure missed a lot.

    There were exceptions, but most couples in my neighborhood were fairly close in age. The parents kept their mouths shut cause mom was a few years older, which would of been considered odd to some. Anyway, it wasn't much like Hollywood where I lived. They swept a lot of crap under the rug too. People who lived through WW II and the great depression often had a stick up their butts, though they did there best to hide it.

    Judging how much love had to do with anything back then was hard. Played a part no doubt, but practical matters had to come first sometimes. Big daddy gov wasn't as generous as now, so people had to depend more on each other. A lot of people wanted a roof over their heads as much as romantic love. They say pioneer women quit mending their sons cloths when he got old enough to man up.

    I doubt if the old timers saw retirement like us either. Before Social Security, poor people had nothing when they got old. And even if they could keep the wolf from their door, they didn't live that much longer anyway.
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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    What are the marriage penalties that come in terms of taxes?

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by ???? View Post
    What are the marriage penalties that come in terms of taxes?
    In the states, a husband who earns $75k and a woman earns $75 will have a combined income of $150k. Aside from the additional personal exemption, they will pay the their taxes at the same rate as that "rich" single man earning $150k.
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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    I used to share an office with a guy that was living with a woman for over 10 years. They were both professionals in their late 40s, early 50s, and both had children (mostly grown) from earlier relationships. Being young and fully indoctrinated, at the time, I asked why they didn't marry. He explained how two individuals making good money (each) would pay considerably less taxes filing single than they would filing married joint. The tax codes are steeply progressive, but do have a small marriage offset. In the example given above, the married couple making a joint income of $150,000 would pay less than the bachelor making $150,000, if they filed joint, but they would pay considerably less as two individuals making $75,000 each.

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    This is good news to me. For some reason, I thought it was more beneficial tax-wise to be married. I'm glad to know I won't be missing out.

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    Re: MGTOW only exists, 'cause you, guys, don't understand the benefits of marriage.

    I am reminded of the "shiny rocks" market. How can diamonds be "rare and valuable" when there is an endless supply of them?

    I saw a video that explained that the "tradition" of buying a diamond for an engagement ring was created by the DeBeers corporation just a few decades ago.
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