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    What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    My Buddy talked my ear off last night about his wife. I dont want to reveal details and betray his trust, but will say she is mauling the guy right now and he is doing everything he can to appease her. She left work a few years ago, so he is the sole breadwinner and she is micromanaging his time and hobbies. She wants him to give up his favorite hobby, as she thinks it is too expensive and takes up too much time. Another friend of mine just tolerates his marriage and looks for every excuse not to be around his wife.
    All I do is listen, and offer no solutions. However, I do say I am in a MUCH BETTER place now than I was 2 years ago. What else can I say?

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    I'm surprised that the slave masters allow your friends to even converse with you. It's been my experience that the as soon as men acquire a slavemaster, the man is no longer allowed to communicate with me, although some still attempt to talk with me when the slave master isn't listening. As long as your friends are allowed to talk with you, keep showing how wonderful your life is compared to them. Leading by example, after all.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    The odds of this divorce lasting (and getting better) are slim to none. It actually sounds like she's building a case of "hamster reasons" to leave him. Notice how SHE left the workforce but now SHE is miserable and is taking it out on him. FFS, as the sole breadwinner he should have a certain amount of money for his interests (be it golf or wood work or whatever) and she should not have a damned thing to say about it.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    My Buddy talked my ear off last night about his wife. I dont want to reveal details and betray his trust, but will say she is mauling the guy right now and he is doing everything he can to appease her. She left work a few years ago, so he is the sole breadwinner and she is micromanaging his time and hobbies. She wants him to give up his favorite hobby, as she thinks it is too expensive and takes up too much time. Another friend of mine just tolerates his marriage and looks for every excuse not to be around his wife.
    All I do is listen, and offer no solutions. However, I do say I am in a MUCH BETTER place now than I was 2 years ago. What else can I say?
    Tell him to begin keeping detailed notes, every single day, and keep them hidden in a place she's got no access to. Down the road, they could help save his ass in court.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    I would get a divorce lawyer and plan an exit, at least on the side. He should smash the (very egotistical) idea (that most married guys have) that it will not or cannot happen to him. It can, and in this case, it more than likely will. This woman is a divorce-rape waiting to happen. And with her income at ZERO she is a massive liability in divorce court due to the wage disparity. Optimal wage disparity as far as her golden vagina is concerned.
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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    Great Advice,
    I think I will put all these ideas in play, especially leading. In doing so, I can also say 'In hindsight I should have been more prepared just in case' and then offer the ideas mentioned. I think they are, like I was, not even wanting to think of the possibility of divorce. In doing so, I was blindsided

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    All my friends are married or cohabitate with their women. Virtually all of my relationships have ended with my friends because of this. Their still my friends, but I never see them anymore, except one, the one that cheats on his wife, him and me go see and fuck other girls together. I don’t feel bad for being his partner in crime cause he’s gonna do it anyway whether I’m there or not. Plus I’m tired of womens shit anyway. I’ve been around his wife, and the last few times she’s been a insufferable cunt. I had to bear the nagging my friends been receiving from her when I was around him recently, truly to much to bear. I feel sorry for men in that position.

    It truly is a fucked up situation to be in, where no matter what you do, is never right, and never good enough. You get sucked in to her world and the world of the kids and their never ending problems, in a never ending black hole, and it all falls on you, FOREVER, sucking your entire being for all eternity, also known as the shit vortex(what I call pre-hell), you will pray for death, in hopes of escape, stay away and out of the shit vortex, do not go near the shit vortex, once in, only God can pull you out, and Lord have mercy on you if he doesn’t feel like it.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    I'm betting she doesn't even know he's been talking to you. If she finds out, he'll get grounded.
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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    Hi Frank

    All I do is listen, and offer no solutions.
    It depends if you want to offer him a solution. There is a good method to make people reasoning with their own brains I'm using it always because it works for me.

    Ask key questions and let him give the answers. By asking questions you make him reason and think with his own brain. He will give you the answers you just keep questioning. Once they told you the situation they are in and answering your questions you can steer the whole conversation in the direction you want.

    If you just tell him and explain things he won't listen. Asking key questions is a more effective approach.
    You should try it out.
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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    Tell him that this guy you know stashed cash money secretly to buy a bike that his wife didnt allow him to buy . And one day he received divorce papers out of the blue and couldnt enter his house anymore .

    And the cash he saved was the only thing separating him from homelessness .

    There are also quite a community of freaks on the internet that claim the divorce rate is actually over 90% but the government is hiding this fact . And the research county by county actually proves it to be truth .
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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    I have learned so much in the past few weeks

    I wondered why several of my married friends cut off communication with me. Even my BEST friend of many years got short with me immediately after my divorce. We use to talk hours a week, and then nothing? Was my ex spreading lies? For months I was angry. Even if my wife told his wife something, he would surely tell me? at least ask if it was true, Right? Now I realize that he isnt very strong and his wife is more controlling than I knew

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    I have had several men who I considered "good friends" with whom I also used to talk with several hours a week do the same thing. That is, the men who were friendly one week, acted like they didn't even know me the next week. It's a harsh realization that your friendship means much less to these men than keeping their slavemaster happy. Since I am the only single man who lives on my street, my neighbors don't talk to me either, especially when I ignored the imperious demands of their slavemasters.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    I have learned so much in the past few weeks

    I wondered why several of my married friends cut off communication with me. Even my BEST friend of many years got short with me immediately after my divorce. We use to talk hours a week, and then nothing? Was my ex spreading lies? For months I was angry. Even if my wife told his wife something, he would surely tell me? at least ask if it was true, Right? Now I realize that he isnt very strong and his wife is more controlling than I knew
    You are now the worst possible thing there is to your suffering buddies and their shrew wives. You sir are a shining example that you can leave the constant bitching and brain damage of marriage behind. That you don't have to take that kind of crap anymore. Or ever take it from someone in the future.

    You had the balls to get divorced and you also survived. You're even telling others you're in a much better place now. Which goes against the grain of all the blue pill lies about marriage.

    You are salt in the open wounds of your buddies. Because they see you doing better. They just don't have the balls it takes to leave. No one want's to be reminded of that.

    Their wives are horrified about you being around their whipping boy and wallet husbands. Even if they half smile and say hello when they see you. You like myself, and many other divorced men are in the same spot. Testimonials that divorce can be a very very good thing. She does not want her man seeing that example.

    You have to be grateful for what we divorced men have earned, and paid the price for. The ability to live in peace and prosper.

    I had a buddy calling and venting about his relationship for a while. One day he said "you know what I've noticed when we talk?"
    I said no what is it. He said it's all the peace and quiet in the background when I call you. I never hear any drama going on for you.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    Quote Originally Posted by ABigSiameseCat View Post
    I'm surprised that the slave masters allow your friends to even converse with you. It's been my experience that the as soon as men acquire a slavemaster, the man is no longer allowed to communicate with me, although some still attempt to talk with me when the slave master isn't listening. As long as your friends are allowed to talk with you, keep showing how wonderful your life is compared to them. Leading by example, after all.
    When I saw the term "Slavemaster" I instantly thought of this, and how it fits in this thread.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    Slavemaster seems to be the best fit, from what I have seen. Married men who dared not challenge the dictates of their owners and who hurry to obey every demand. The slave masters became furious when I laughed at their demands. Apparently they thought that I would instantly obey their commands, just like their in house slaves. The look of resignation given by the slaves as they were ordered to stop talking to me was quite telling.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    … she is mauling the guy right now and he is doing everything he can to appease her.
    Maybe what he needs to hear is that dude, she will never be happy about how you spend your time and money, so you may as well spend them how you like.

    I'd also tell him: the medium is the message. When your wife micromanages your scrabble addiction, she's not saying "you should be playing less scrabble", she's saying "it's ok for me to tell you what to do". When your wife screams at you in the mall, the message is not "I'm unhappy about where you parked the car", it's "it's ok for me to scream at you in the mall".

    In general, what every blue-pill sicker needs, aside from a divorce, is a little amused mastery. Women are frail and timid. The reason they act like they do is that they are frightened of every little thing, all the time. Just stop taking her so goddamned seriously.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    This was a hard thread to read. I escaped the black-hole of a gold-digger, who was pushing full-tilt to try and score a divorce-rape. It was so crazy how I was doing things that I would consider out of character, but given how blue-pill I was, and how hard she pushed the "puppy-love/twice upon a time" angle... I was a walking stereotype...

    I can see now, precisely how she and her daughter groomed me for a white-knight bailout, "frog in the pot" style. She even managed to pull a proposal out of me... It was fucking insane, how powerful a weapon sex is; coupled with months of sleep-deprivation... The things you will say just to get some fucking sleep. Even when I escaped, I was so convinced that I was a monster for leaving that it took over a year before I could even start getting mad about it. The brain-washing was *THAT* deep... Going zero-contact is all that saved me.

    I've written about it before, and thinking back to just how fucking nightmarish she and her daughter were... I think, in a way... she was the perfect AWALT.

    And I accidentally sold one of my old college friends up the river. He was TFL at 35, and I asked if he minded kids. He said no. So I suggested a church, cause they are full of women looking to find daddies for their kids. And an engineer with a BMW and fully paid-off house? Ofcourse he was snatched up almost immediately, whirlwind romance-style. My friends and I went to his wedding.. it was fucking HUGE, and we didn't know anyone there. That was the last time any of us ever heard from him...

    I'm going to hell for sure, but I wish I hadn't sent him into it...
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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    I saw this guy come in last night around 4-5 AM. He was still wearing his dirty work uniform, which was from a local manufacturing plant. No doubt he just finished working a grueling long shift at work and was on his way home. He looked tired and stressed as hell. I mean it was just palpable, I could sense it in every breath this guy took. The look in his eyes was just pure misery and suffering.

    He was picking up a script for a 14 year old boy. When I asked the birthday, he had absolutely NO CLUE what it was. Clearly not HIS son. Incidentally, the script was for Adderall, a schedule 2 narcotic that is prescribed and forced on young boys for "ADHD" and other similar misandric diagnoses. That's code for "normal boy behavior".

    The man wore a wedding ring, and I couldn't help but notice the kid had commercial insurance, no doubt thanks to this man and his labor. That is incredibly rare. I'd say well over 95% of the time I see that drug prescribed for a kid, they are on welfare and almost always the child of a single mother. It is rare to see a man picking up medications for these kids as well, because the ones who have fathers typically don't take these medications.

    All I could think is WHY THE FUCK is this man picking up medications for this kid after he just finished busting his ass at work all night? Why isn't the kid's MOTHER doing it? But this is pretty much typical. I can't tell you how many beaten down men with wedding rings I see picking up prescriptions for women and children who aren't even theirs, and paying for them. Often children who they don't even know the date of birth for. The expression these guys have is always the same; pure misery and stress. They look like hell.

    Slave doesn't even begin to describe what these guys are. Sometimes I will see the women when they are dropping off the scripts, then the guy will come later because the woman doesn't want to wait around or pay for anything. The women are almost never wearing any kind of work uniform, they are wearing sweatpants or pajamas. Often tattooed, and grossly overweight or obese. Often smoking or smelling of weed. Often they have profiles as well, full of antidepressants and psychiatric meds. These are lazy, useless women. They just see these men as errand boys and walking ATM's.

    I feel bad for these guys, but what else can you really say about them. They signed up for it voluntarily. They could end it anytime they please. They might have to pay alimony or lose some of their assets, but it would be worth it.

    Oh well. Just makes me appreciate what I have even more.

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    A true friend would say to another friend going through marriage hell; Let me hold your guns....

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    Re: What to say to married friends in Blue Pill Hell?

    But as we all know that only thing that will be of any help is to let him crash on your couch after she kicks him out .
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