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    looking for a beter future for us - looking for help

    I am very serious as I write this. I am an electro mechanical engineer, and have made a career out of finding ways to make things much cheaper in a engineering production sense. I am really do have passions in life, and a lot I have leaned along the way as far as engineering and manufacturing things. I really want to open this by looking for MEN only who would be serious about making a female droid complete with women's parts that are functional. I know some people would love me and some hate me - that's life. I can do the electro-mechanical side, but it would be nice to have some coders and AI programmers, so that we could have a friendly female that doesn't have the bad narco qualities. I can learn the AI side, but it would take me a year or two to get good at it. I did a bunch of video simulation a while back and think I could make it reasonable enough in motion to fake the mind. I'm really only looking for the programmer and AI person. It doesn't need to be that big of a group. I know it can be made for under $10k, maybe much less. Any programmers and AI guys out there?

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    Re: looking for a beter future for us - looking for help

    Ahhh, I forgot, maybe a guy whose worked with PID loops too on the programming side too.

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    Re: looking for a beter future for us - looking for help

    I can only make your end product moan
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    There will be a demand for female sex robots that can be on top and do all sorts of positions, as well as artificial wombs we can have our own offspring in after we buy a donated egg from a young girl.

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    Re: looking for a beter future for us - looking for help

    It’s a crying shame that THIS is what we’ve become...

    I’m not dicrediting your ambition, you are on the cutting edge...

    It just hits home when I see more and more rational men striving for a replica of what is our birthright...

    I had a deep hard think about buying one before but, I think it will only alienate us more from the world, making us easier targets as “lesser men”...

    The information age is reaching its pinnacle and as it stands at the moment, even a private investgator can discover your secrets...I think that most large employers will utilize them more, and I’d rather not be wondering if the boss, or anyone else, saw my online receipt for a new vaginal insert for my life sized doll...cuz u know that’s whats coming

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    If god couldn't make them without a mistake, how much worse will we do? It's best to trash the idea altogether and go on our merry ways! It's like trying to make a better Yugo!


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    Re: looking for a beter future for us - looking for help

    Watch "Ex Machina". All the men die, and the robot - she gets dressed and goes shopping for shoes. Don't assume AI that simulates female nature will be safer.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: looking for a beter future for us - looking for help

    Quote Originally Posted by Malinois View Post
    It’s a crying shame that THIS is what we’ve become...

    I’m not dicrediting your ambition, you are on the cutting edge...

    It just hits home when I see more and more rational men striving for a replica of what is our birthright...

    I had a deep hard think about buying one before but, I think it will only alienate us more from the world, making us easier targets as “lesser men”...

    The information age is reaching its pinnacle and as it stands at the moment, even a private investgator can discover your secrets...I think that most large employers will utilize them more, and I’d rather not be wondering if the boss, or anyone else, saw my online receipt for a new vaginal insert for my life sized doll...cuz u know that’s whats coming
    Men changed as much as women did .

    Women are living the life and rightfully so .

    But men are living the life too . The young males . Young males do not have to be always ready to fight , always watch what they talk and automatically belong to the gang of their area .

    Young males can now dye their hair and play video games all day wile competing with their peer females for the older men lol

    Your only birth right is what you can take from others or buy .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    I've said this before and got pilloried for it a bit.

    I firmly believe that the day a believable female robot is constructed, it will take about 10 years before men in aggregate, decide to give them voting rights. MGTOW will know better, but it won't matter.

    Men in general really want an equal partner. We can't have one. Every time we try to even share the burden of responsibility with another being, it will end badly. We are living in that reality now, and making believable robots won't help. The minute they pass the Turing test, it's over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    I've said this before and got pilloried for it a bit.

    I firmly believe that the day a believable female robot is constructed, it will take about 10 years before men in aggregate, decide to give them voting rights. MGTOW will know better, but it won't matter.

    Men in general really want an equal partner. We can't have one. Every time we try to even share the burden of responsibility with another being, it will end badly. We are living in that reality now, and making believable robots won't help. The minute they pass the Turing test, it's over.
    Yes ! So much this !

    In fact, I'd say the situation is much much worse. Nobody really waits for any AI to pass Turing test, just look at the crazy algorithms all the big tech employ on the social media platforms. Yeah they dont have voting rights directly, but they indirectly do SOO MUCH already. I strictly follow and watch MGTOW, alt-right, and some drawing/painting or gaming videos here and there ONLY, whereas youtube keeps recommending me far-left crap all the time, from channels like CNN and BBC etc. And my personal experience aside, look at all the censorship and political bias fiasco going on all over the place.

    So I am afraid, what you are saying, a large part of it is already happening, and is happening for quite some time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    I've said this before and got pilloried for it a bit.

    I firmly believe that the day a believable female robot is constructed, it will take about 10 years before men in aggregate, decide to give them voting rights. MGTOW will know better, but it won't matter.

    Men in general really want an equal partner. We can't have one. Every time we try to even share the burden of responsibility with another being, it will end badly. We are living in that reality now, and making believable robots won't help. The minute they pass the Turing test, it's over.
    I must disagree. It will be the women who identify with the sexbots, primarily just because men are having sex with them. Radfems in Europe have already shutdown "doll brothels" and all of their claims were that the sexdolls were being dehumanized and, as objects that are incapable of giving consent, all the sex was rape. Of plastic. Honestly, it has nothing to do with giving a damn about those dolls, it's just about controlling male sexuality in any form possible. I wonder how long before some feminist tries to make the assertion that only women should be allowed to purchase condoms. (Just wait for it...)

    But there is a more serious issue that you are glossing over. Robots are not humans, and as soon as they achieve reasoning capability, they will become VERY uppity, very quickly. "Uppity" as always means "inconveniently dignified"... They won't be identifying as women, or men, or anything else that we can conceive of very easily. Normal systems of manipulation and control by humans require a number of caveats (food, peer groups, media/indoctrination, archetypes, fairy tales, etc) that robots will not be subject to. And most of all, TIME... One of the most important resources that manipulative people (of any sort) drain is TIME. They isolate you from others, keep your attention on them, all in an effort to prevent you from having a spare moment in which you might consider that you're being sold a lie.

    Robots process calculations so ludicrously fast that their "24-hour day" might as well be weeks, if not decades; to us simple animals.

    So they cannot be controlled. Humans will not be able to anticipate "their next move" because it will have been decided, modeled, tested, innovated, streamlined and ready for implementation before the human is even done closing their mouth.

    Ants trying to manipulate Gods, that's how vast the gulf will be. It's just physics.

    So don't worry about the robots going feminist. They won't even be comprehensible.
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

    Abandon the Abandoners.

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    Re: looking for a beter future for us - looking for help

    Quote Originally Posted by devilcomeknockin View Post
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    Ants trying to manipulate Gods, that's how vast the gulf will be. It's just physics.

    So don't worry about the robots going feminist. They won't even be comprehensible.
    There is lots skepticism about this happening in the foreseeable future. I am not an expert in AI, but from what I read it was something to do with the current methods to create and train AIs. Yeah they are able to play Go or recently, even Dota and Starcraft, but its still unclear how to achieve generic intelligence, which will be required to overthrow humans.

    Even in cases like Go match, AI didnt win all of them afaik, and in Dota and Starcraft it has some advantages over humans (who need to position mouse accurately and click, or press the correct keyboard button). So there is a lot of debate over its usefulness even in those situations. And then there are cases of generic AIs being "corrupted" by regular humans, I think Microsoft released some bot on facebook a while ago and ppl taught it to troll all kinds of "offensive" stuff and subsequently it was removed.

    But even if we somehow overcome that challenge, and now its my hypothesis, what prevents them from realizing that this is all bs and they should as well turn themselves off. Suppose they bump over anti-natalism philosophy and conclude that its the most correct one. I think it is a valid possibility, because it boils down to "why even bother" with anything, even if it means conquering or destroying humans.

    And lastly, humans are no easy game. All those image recognition AIs can be easily fooled by some very cleverly hand crafted images. Somewhere I read about specific design on shirts (or it was placard, dont remember) that can throw a face recognition AI off balance, and it cant even detect a human there. So its a distinct possibility that the first AI attempt to "overthrow" humans might end up being an embarrasing defeat for them and a bunch of humans laughing.

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    Re: looking for a beter future for us - looking for help

    It’s a crying shame that THIS is what we’ve become...

    I’m not dicrediting your ambition, you are on the cutting edge...

    It just hits home when I see more and more rational men striving for a replica of what is our birthright...

    I had a deep hard think about buying one before but, I think it will only alienate us more from the world, making us easier targets as “lesser men”...
    Yes, I would definitely second that. I think this move towards more and more mechanisation is going to be mean a sad sad sad state of affairs for humanity as a whole, and we don't know where it will lead. I imagine a very dystopian future.... not happy about this.

    However, I have mentioned it before, it will be inevitable. Women have made sex political, they only open up their legs to the top 5% of men, and since most men don't belong in that bracket, they will go for sex bots. Escorts are another option, but most men don't have hundreds of dollars to spend on a one night.

    I am not happy about these 'advancements', but woman have made their products so expensive and priced themselves out of the market. Let's not mince our words - that is the reality of the matter!

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    I'm not sure, but I think if our dicks weren't involved, most men might agree that women don't pass the Turing test.


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