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    My Journey to MGTOW

    Greetings Miggies , I am from Lebanon. And I am not exactly a MGTOW but more like forced. I am more of a True Forced Loneliness . I have been late diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome which explains my constant rejection from women. I was bullied throughout most of my school life since Kindergarten till 10th grade. I am now 23 years old.
    In 2011, I started binge watching South Park, and it planted seeds of doubt about Islam, it made feel that something isn't right about the religion. And in early 2012 I left Islam to be atheism, and my views became more left leaning. I supported a woman's right to choose, opposed honor killings, pro-healthcare , gay marriage.

    In 2014 I stumbled uppon TheAmazingAtheist's video on "The Failure of Feminism" he planted seeds of doubt in my head, as a matter of fact I got into PC gaming and was aware of Anita Sarkeesian's scandal and the gamer gate controversy, but didn't care much.


    In Summer 2015, the garbage crisis began after the main landfill had overflown , so there was garbage everywhere and the streets smelled like a rotting corpse coupled with a 38 to 41 C heat intensifying the smell, as well as a significant increase of electrical black outs ( on normal days it was 3 hours/day) but in summer it was going up to 18 hours/day. One day I was scrolling through facebook and I found an protest against the garbage and electricity crises organized by "You Stink". I joined the movement, I invested a lot of time and energy in this cause as well as befriending the activists and organizers. Nearly all of the activists are feminists & manginas. And thanks to them as well as my college professor and a communist acquaintance I became a manigna. I met a girl from the movement who became my oneitis and a feminist too I will call her "S".

    By Fall Semester 2016 I registered for an " Introduction to Human Rights" class, I thought it was going to be about as the tittle says. But this class was merged with gender studies, 95% of the material discussed in the class was about women and female empowerment and the rest was about basic human rights but from a Marxist perspective and the class was 90% female and 2 guys including me, FYI I was probably the most vocal student in class even much more than the girls ( the majority of the girls were average looking) one of them was a Stacy also on instagram-thot, she doesn't use the label feminist but agrees with the core beliefs. During this semester. I wanted to get laid and I was a mangina/simp so I can stick my dick in wet holes, but my main weakness was "S". I craved this girl's validation and attention and oneitis was much more severe. One time I wanted to get a one night stand, and I randomly bumped into an old friend who is a Chad, I asked him I wanna get laid, and he gave me typical PUA bullshit " Lift Bra" "get rid of that belly" "get hair cut". I tried it, nothing worked.
    I did get pissed off, next week I met "S" again and she hugged me I felt more confident and happier, little did I know that she was playing fuckin bullshit mind games. After Trump won the campaign I was actually happy that he did and not Clinton, because I believed that Trump is not working for Soros and The Rothschilds. I met a guy from the movement who happens to know "S", he kept teasing me that how I am a kissless virgin, this made me furious.

    In early December 2016, I noticed SJWs and became aware that I was an SJW and TheAmazingAtheist helped me open my eyes when I re-watched his "Failure of Feminism" video, I was a subscriber to r/socialism and made a post on Men's issue and and how radfems ( feminazis) are contributing to the problem, I got banned from that sub and gave me no reason. I did label my self as a feminist because of the middle east and did disdain western feminists. I was invited to an activist's from "You Stink!" birthday party all the guests were from the movement except his cousin , anyway we were playing truth or dare and the bottled pointed at me so I chose truth one of the girls asked me if I have ever made out with girl the others joined in and asked me in a shaming and condescending pitiful way if I am a virgin, this infuriated me and made me boil with rage, but it made one step closer to the red pill. On one hand I dropped the communist label as well thanks to Peter Schiff when he debated with Occupy protesters. On the other hand I started binge watching more videos from the Skeptic Community and through this I discovered Paleocons and the Alt-Lite, I did agree with the basic things they had to say. But they only exposed feminism and SJWs , not female nature well yes but glimpses. At the same time, I became more vocal about Men's Rights as well as attempting to reason with feminists , the straw that broke the camel's back when on women's day a group of feminists that the cops and judges should take the woman's word if she says that she was raped even without any evidence because rape victims are unopen and fear reporting the crime, one thot told me and the crowd that she met a guy who first time complimented her, the second encounter she had with him he groped her and pushed her attempting to rape her I did feel bad for her but , I felt something wasn't right about this girl why didn't she call the cops , and she wanted to write a message to her rapist on facebook but her parents advised her not to keep a low profile. One time "S" posted a meme on facebook that a hero is not one without her and I commented " A man doesn't need a woman to be hero" she got triggered and deleted my comment . I stopped debating feminists. I thought about PUA, and read "The Game" by Neil Strauss AKA Style, I tried using his techniques nothing worked. I was aware of the MGTOW idea but I was ignorant and thought that they were losers.

    A year ago my best friend discovered that his gf ( now ex) is a whore and was cheating on and used him for his money I got very angry and posted a status on facebook that most women are evil and cannot be trusted. On that day "S" saw the status and unfriended me ,and I fell in depression as well as discovering r/incels , moreover I did consider MGTOW.
    I met that Chad friend of mine again and I told him my problem and he told to practice PUA harder and to get rid of oneitis I have fuck 10 other women. And to do what I do while I stop giving a crap about what others think. I met a guy and his gf, he has seen my posts about feminism and female nature, his gf used shaming tactics in a nice way especially " You haven't met the right girl yet" This pushed me more to MGTOW
    I started to read more about MGTOW concepts, through TFM, Sandamn , Big John, Red Pill Philosophy, and many more it made me way more furious and I got much louder and way more vocal on facebook I swallowed the red pill. I posted a joke " why women have boobs so you got something to look at while you're talking to them " I get threatened by a bully white knight mangina Chad from the movement that if I ever do something like this he would break my legs landing me in the ICU every chick including "S" get the tingles from him in her ovaries. I hate this piece of shit.

    I shutdown facebook as other fellow MGTOWs told me to as well as other social media platforms. I felt liberated, and slowly overtime "S" started to fade away. I was vocal about MGTOW in college but it attracted negative attention, I met some geeks and one time their leaders who are gay but think and act like wymyn wanted me to get a gf and I told them that I am going my own way they resorted to shaming tactics and made me a tinder profile they kept swiping with me and I got nothing and they gave me blue pill bullshit advice that I should be myself and not say misogynistic things because it is unattractive to women. I did not listen. A bunch of cucks. I never used my tinder account because I did a cost-benefit analysis , recently deleted it. I also discovered faceandlms and hes showed me that Looks Money and Status are the most important to attracting women, and looks are what make a man attractive to women


    My siblings when they got married became SIMPS after they got married my elder brother has a 7 figure salary but he spends a lot of useless shit and doesn't have much disposable income. My middle older brother has become a simp too, and his wife has mommy issues and her dad is the biggest cuck who remarried at age 70 after her mom died and his new wife is pregnant with the anchor baby so she can trap him and take away his resources his new wife had her ex divorce her and left behind her kids.This reinforces my beliefs about female nature. My brother's wife has used shaming tactics because I do not believe in marriage and think it is slavery she said " You don't wanna be responsible" , I responded " I have the choice to be a slave or not" , she also told me that my brother used to think this way but he grew out of it and that I am still young. She spent around 50 grand on their wedding but my brother has to pay mortgage fees for there house.


    I am 23 years old and an inrovert I have a few very close friends who understand me and have similar values, I am better off being a lone wolf, as I can't stand most people tried to fit in with groups but no one understands, and because I was burned during my childhood and adolescence as well as being bullied I have became bitter, cynical , dead inside , jaded, and misanthropic. But at the same time I feel liberated.



    I have decided to stop discussing MGTOW philosphy except for my closest friends who are red pill or atleast borderline red pill. I rarely talk to people as I do not trust any one and if someone is extra nice to me I treat them with extreme prejudice and suspicion becoming cynical. I only talk to people out of necessity , if an acquaintance says hi I will reply hi as well. If necessary I try to blend in so I don't attarct a lot of attention and be a ghost. Now Shaming tactics do not work on me I decode them instead of debunk them infact I feed of shaming tactics. If I ever get a crush on a woman I do my best to resist and know that my brain is telling to reproduce with this girl and start a family with her because she has good genes and fertile. As Rick Sanchez said "Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people calls "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle, Morty. Rise above. Focus on science."

    PS : Excuse my English , because it is my 2nd language.
    Thank You In Advance.

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    Re: My Journey to MGTOW

    Hell of a deal having to get your learning from South Park, but a guys got to start somewhere. I'm glad they helped.

    It don't sound like your country wants to hear anything but the blue pill party line. If you thought you could help someone that's one thing. But for the most part you should keep your red pill mouth shut. It's hard to remain silent when you think your right, but you have to. Don't try to save the world, it don't want to be saved. Saying what you think will only cause trouble, and no good will come of it. What your describing is like America was fifty years ago, or maybe longer. Save the MGTOW speech for when your old as me. Maybe your country will be ready by then.They sure as hell ain't ready now. Pick your fights real careful, and don't bother arguing with every idiot that comes along. LM, you need to start thinking more underground. Lots more underground. Cause what's ok and legal today might not be alright tomorrow. Remember, the blue pill world is going to blame you for remaining single before long as it is. Those fat sister in laws aren't going to marry themselves. Don't make their job easy spouting a bunch a MGTOW stuff that's twenty years ahead of it's time as well.
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    Great story, amazing story. It was a big mistake to be public about all this, to openly tell people what your were thinking, but people drift away and forget. For your relatives, say something like "I hope I will meet the right girl someday, but for now I am young and I need to focus on my career and make some money".

    The main thing about religion is that they put fears into you in childhood. Later in life, even if you think you ave moved on, all those fears come back and you wonder "But, what if it were all true? What then? What if there really is a God and a hell?" For me, the thing that moved me out of Christianity was the question "What would someone think of this if they never believed it?" Check out my intro story, which is mainly a story about moving christianity to atheism.

    This website isn't as active as it used to be a few years ago. If you feel an urge for activism and have computer skills, perhaps the world needs an Arabic language MGTOW site and forum. I suggest that it should be hosted in Iceland or somewhere like that.

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    Thank you so much!!!

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    You don't realize it now, but you will be stronger in a few years when you put all your time, energy and money into what you want to do. I do not mean this as a meaningless gesture, because I sincerely believe you will do better in a few years time. You will look back and laugh at the stupid simps and other fakes as they struggle with life while you are in complete mastery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    You don't realize it now, but you will be stronger in a few years when you put all your time, energy and money into what you want to do. I do not mean this as a meaningless gesture, because I sincerely believe you will do better in a few years time. You will look back and laugh at the stupid simps and other fakes as they struggle with life while you are in complete mastery.
    I agree with this, I'm 28 now, and I was 23 when I first came to this forum as well. I'm now at that age where all my friends start getting in relationships, some already start a marriage, some already start a family, etc. One friend has been renting a house with his girlfriend for the last few years, which is a little bigger than my apartment are paying more than 700 euros a month for it, I by comparison only pay 90 euros a month for my nearly paid off mortgage, while I get 400 euros a month from someone who rents a room in my house. They are now looking to buy a house for about 350k, mine was about 100k. They will go deep into debt for that, and have to pay a mortgage for a very long time. Also take into account that it is much easier to save money on your own. Once the kids come, and especially when the mom wants to become a "stay at home mom" they will have a very hard time keeping it together financially.

    You see, financial freedom means freedom in other areas of life as well, you can quit your job or work less, you can take long holidays, travel, cultivate your hobbies, etc, etc. Once I stopped dating women it sometimes felt premature. Some of my friends had great blossoming relationships in university, while I quit studying and worked while living with my parents. It was not a glorious decision, and I felt lonely at the time, but over time this just pays off. Over time, women will start to mean less to you, over time you will acquire more freedom and over time people in relationships will start to struggle more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ikbenrein View Post
    I agree with this, I'm 28 now, and I was 23 when I first came to this forum as well. I'm now at that age where all my friends start getting in relationships, some already start a marriage, some already start a family, etc. One friend has been renting a house with his girlfriend for the last few years, which is a little bigger than my apartment are paying more than 700 euros a month for it, I by comparison only pay 90 euros a month for my nearly paid off mortgage, while I get 400 euros a month from someone who rents a room in my house. They are now looking to buy a house for about 350k, mine was about 100k. They will go deep into debt for that, and have to pay a mortgage for a very long time. Also take into account that it is much easier to save money on your own. Once the kids come, and especially when the mom wants to become a "stay at home mom" they will have a very hard time keeping it together financially.

    You see, financial freedom means freedom in other areas of life as well, you can quit your job or work less, you can take long holidays, travel, cultivate your hobbies, etc, etc. Once I stopped dating women it sometimes felt premature. Some of my friends had great blossoming relationships in university, while I quit studying and worked while living with my parents. It was not a glorious decision, and I felt lonely at the time, but over time this just pays off. Over time, women will start to mean less to you, over time you will acquire more freedom and over time people in relationships will start to struggle more.
    Another hard part is when you lose every bit of sexual attraction to her in the span of 5 years . And you still have 30 years of paying the mortal engagement ahead of you .

    The only good thing is that she divorces you in the span of 5 years so you have other things on your mind to deal with
    You cant keep a player down!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikbenrein View Post
    I agree with this, I'm 28 now, and I was 23 when I first came to this forum as well. I'm now at that age where all my friends start getting in relationships, some already start a marriage, some already start a family, etc. One friend has been renting a house with his girlfriend for the last few years, which is a little bigger than my apartment are paying more than 700 euros a month for it, I by comparison only pay 90 euros a month for my nearly paid off mortgage, while I get 400 euros a month from someone who rents a room in my house. They are now looking to buy a house for about 350k, mine was about 100k. They will go deep into debt for that, and have to pay a mortgage for a very long time. Also take into account that it is much easier to save money on your own. Once the kids come, and especially when the mom wants to become a "stay at home mom" they will have a very hard time keeping it together financially.

    You see, financial freedom means freedom in other areas of life as well, you can quit your job or work less, you can take long holidays, travel, cultivate your hobbies, etc, etc. Once I stopped dating women it sometimes felt premature. Some of my friends had great blossoming relationships in university, while I quit studying and worked while living with my parents. It was not a glorious decision, and I felt lonely at the time, but over time this just pays off. Over time, women will start to mean less to you, over time you will acquire more freedom and over time people in relationships will start to struggle more.
    Absolutely. I wish I had discovered all of this sooner, but I started in my early 30s. I am hoping to turn that financial corner where I can choose to do the work I want and not feel forced to do so or take extended breaks in the next five years.

    Growing older I really can't stand working for someone or an employer that doesn't respect me, trust me, or value my time working. I am at a point in my life where I have more experience and wisdom than most of my "bosses". And if the "bosses" are blue pill straight up they will try to undermine a free man every step of the way. But this is why being ready with fuck you money and being able to read the signs is paramount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Absolutely. I wish I had discovered all of this sooner, but I started in my early 30s. I am hoping to turn that financial corner where I can choose to do the work I want and not feel forced to do so or take extended breaks in the next five years.

    Growing older I really can't stand working for someone or an employer that doesn't respect me, trust me, or value my time working. I am at a point in my life where I have more experience and wisdom than most of my "bosses". And if the "bosses" are blue pill straight up they will try to undermine a free man every step of the way. But this is why being ready with fuck you money and being able to read the signs is paramount.
    LOL the bosses are bluest of the blue and a lot of times are straight rednecks .

    Never seen one that wasnt under the heel of his wife but thats just me .

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