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    Should an injustice make you bitter?

    As MGTOW, we realise that most societies, tribes, social systems and ideologies are inherently unjust towards men. Specifically the average man, what I call the 'everyday man', which (I assume) includes most MGTOW men.

    Injustice exists, prejudice exists. And to a large extent, you can't do much about it.

    Men are tools, they are 'doing beings' as opposed to 'human beings'. Men are oppressed by:


    • Taking up the protector/provider role. A man only gains an identity if he can provide. Otherwise, he is cast out of society or shunned by his community.
    • A man must 'do'. A man is a tool for use. He is brainwashed to love his own enslavement and he praises himself even though he breaks his back, trying to please a cunt or his community.
    • A man has to 'sell' his services. A woman gets taken care of, and can 'choose' the price for her 'services' be it intimacy, sex, companionship etc (think wife, escort, prostitute). A man has to offer the 'best price'; women offer the price that she sees fit.
    • A man has to take risk, and often disappointment and disillusionment is the result. Out of every 20/30 tries when a man asks a woman out, she will most likely say no. The acceptance rate may even be 1 in 100 for some men. If she says yes, then a man must further 'work' to get his desires met = drinks, dinners, invites, calls, text messages, understanding how to excite a woman, respecting the woman, yet being confident and knowing the boundaries. And all of that, without the physical attraction usually ends up with the man having an empty wallet = further disappointment and disillusionment.


    There are plenty of other injustices one could mention.

    So injustice exists, prejudice exists. But should that make us despondent? Should that make us bitter? The fact that the world we live views almost every single social, political, individual issue through a 'gynocentric lens' is evident and is as controversial as the seasons changing or the moon waning and waxing.

    What is the 'appropriate', the 'rational', the 'right' response/principle one should adhere to in order to live in the world which he realises is against him?

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    I like DevilComeKnockin special quote he has on bottom where it says, “abandon the abandoners”, thats pretty much how I feel towards this whole gynocentric shithole of a society we live in, go mgtow and fuck the system all the way is how I feel, if you think I’m bitter, wait till you see my next post I’m gonna send, but I’m sending this one first so I can start making the other one. Then everybody can see how bitter I really am.
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    #LIKE A DOVE FROM HEAVEN. (Luke 3:22)

    #I AM THE WAY AND THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME. (John14:6)

    #IN MY VISION AT NIGHT I LOOKED, AND THERE BEFORE ME WAS ONE LIKE A SON OF MAN, COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN. HE APPROACHED THE ANCIENT OF DAYS AND WAS LED INTO HIS PRESENCE.(Daniel 7:3)

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Not that I like it or anything, but injustice bothered me more when I was younger. Now I'm old I just assume people are somehow out to do you, and unfortunately I'm usually right.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    There's no worse injustice than Justice delayed, denied, and abridged. The only outcome is the victim stewing in the juices of tyranny awaiting the day of vengeance.

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    This is pretty much how I really feel. I want a world ending event to happen like yesterday. Like a giant world ending Meteor/Comet/Asteroid to come and hit the Earth and wipe out all life.

    Either that, or I want a real life Skynet AI to gain consciousness (like in Terminator movie), and launches all the nuclear weapons on the planet and ends all life in a nice blinding vaporizing hellish/holy fire by the likes of which have never been seen before.

    And then for Gods final judgment to happen, where he separates the wicked from the righteous in which about 70 percent of the human race is going to hell and gonna burn for all eternity, and only about 30 percent receive salvation, that my friend is my wet dream I have every night, I have to take a shower every morning cause I’m covered in my own semen every morning cause I get off on that thought in my dreams.

    No, I’m not bitter, I’m not bitter at all











    FUCK THIS PLANET!
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    #HE IS THE ONE #LEGENDARY CROSS #MGTOW JESUS CHRIST

    #(DEFENDER OF MGTOW FORUM GO YOUR OWN WAY)

    #LIKE A DOVE FROM HEAVEN. (Luke 3:22)

    #I AM THE WAY AND THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE, NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME. (John14:6)

    #IN MY VISION AT NIGHT I LOOKED, AND THERE BEFORE ME WAS ONE LIKE A SON OF MAN, COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN. HE APPROACHED THE ANCIENT OF DAYS AND WAS LED INTO HIS PRESENCE.(Daniel 7:3)

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Quote Originally Posted by #Redpillbible View Post
    This is pretty much how I really feel. I want a world ending event to happen like yesterday. Like a giant world ending Meteor/Comet/Asteroid to come and hit the Earth and wipe out all life.

    Either that, or I want a real life Skynet AI to gain consciousness (like in Terminator movie), and launches all the nuclear weapons on the planet and ends all life in a nice blinding vaporizing hellish/holy fire by the likes of which have never been seen before.

    And then for Gods final judgment to happen, where he separates the wicked from the righteous in which about 70 percent of the human race is going to hell and gonna burn for all eternity, and only about 30 percent receive salvation, that my friend is my wet dream I have every night, I have to take a shower every morning cause I’m covered in my own semen every morning cause I get off on that thought in my dreams.

    No, I’m not bitter, I’m not bitter at all











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    Not unlike myself, I see you're a man that desires closure...

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    As MGTOW, we realise that most societies, tribes, social systems and ideologies are inherently unjust towards men. Specifically the average man, what I call the 'everyday man', which (I assume) includes most MGTOW men.

    Injustice exists, prejudice exists. And to a large extent, you can't do much about it.

    Men are tools, they are 'doing beings' as opposed to 'human beings'. Men are oppressed by:


    • Taking up the protector/provider role. A man only gains an identity if he can provide. Otherwise, he is cast out of society or shunned by his community.
    • A man must 'do'. A man is a tool for use. He is brainwashed to love his own enslavement and he praises himself even though he breaks his back, trying to please a cunt or his community.
    • A man has to 'sell' his services. A woman gets taken care of, and can 'choose' the price for her 'services' be it intimacy, sex, companionship etc (think wife, escort, prostitute). A man has to offer the 'best price'; women offer the price that she sees fit.
    • A man has to take risk, and often disappointment and disillusionment is the result. Out of every 20/30 tries when a man asks a woman out, she will most likely say no. The acceptance rate may even be 1 in 100 for some men. If she says yes, then a man must further 'work' to get his desires met = drinks, dinners, invites, calls, text messages, understanding how to excite a woman, respecting the woman, yet being confident and knowing the boundaries. And all of that, without the physical attraction usually ends up with the man having an empty wallet = further disappointment and disillusionment.


    There are plenty of other injustices one could mention.

    So injustice exists, prejudice exists. But should that make us despondent? Should that make us bitter? The fact that the world we live views almost every single social, political, individual issue through a 'gynocentric lens' is evident and is as controversial as the seasons changing or the moon waning and waxing.

    What is the 'appropriate', the 'rational', the 'right' response/principle one should adhere to in order to live in the world which he realises is against him?

    This is a trick question isn't it??

    The obvious, plainest, simplest, purest answer is ………….MGTOW

    No more bitterness from me after I got over my initial rage.

    I live my life just for me now. Happiest I've ever been in life right now. Caring for yourself in the best way possible is really awesome.
    "People are always angry at anyone who chooses very individual standards for his life; because of the extraordinary treatment which that man grants to himself, they feel degraded, like ordinary beings."
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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    The way I am, there'll always be some hard feelings left. Their repressed pretty good though. They don't bother me, and like OG says, I'm happier now than I ever was.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    The way I am, there'll always be some hard feelings left. Their repressed pretty good though. They don't bother me, and like OG says, I'm happier now than I ever was.
    Feelings? What are those?

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Strangely enough, MGTOW has relieved alot of my bitterness. Granted, the Rage was devastating, and I couldn't possibly have survived it without my parents, my gods, this forum, and an utterly refusal to die again. It was really bad, especially for a life-long card carrying feminist SJW. I can't believe I made it, lol! But now I finally understand what it was that drove me to suicide, which was a dogged insistence on living the Blue-pill paradigm to the hilt, while *thinking* that I was being an enlightened free-spirit... IE, bitch-think, as Undead Chronic would put it.. LOLOLOLOLOL.

    Now that I understand, I'm having lots of fun exploring the world all over again. I'm using a variety of techniques in ghosting, maintaining an abundance attitude with my lovers, and it's ALL working. And even if it doesn't work with a girl, there's only 150 million more where they came from, right? This shit is liberating beyond belief!

    So I'm dealing with it decreasing my dependence on modern society as much as possible, one baby-step at a time. Don't worry, boys... An gradual extinction level event is starting soon(ish), and I plan to be in a damn fine place to watch the world burn. I can't stop it, but I can fucking enjoy it... ]=)
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

    Abandon the Abandoners. Go Your Own Way, on a molecular scale. <3

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Quote Originally Posted by devilcomeknockin View Post
    Strangely enough, MGTOW has relieved alot of my bitterness. Granted, the Rage was devastating, and I couldn't possibly have survived it without my parents, my gods, this forum, and an utterly refusal to die again. It was really bad, especially for a life-long card carrying feminist SJW. I can't believe I made it, lol! But now I finally understand what it was that drove me to suicide, which was a dogged insistence on living the Blue-pill paradigm to the hilt, while *thinking* that I was being an enlightened free-spirit... IE, bitch-think, as Undead Chronic would put it.. LOLOLOLOLOL.

    Now that I understand, I'm having lots of fun exploring the world all over again. I'm using a variety of techniques in ghosting, maintaining an abundance attitude with my lovers, and it's ALL working. And even if it doesn't work with a girl, there's only 150 million more where they came from, right? This shit is liberating beyond belief!

    So I'm dealing with it decreasing my dependence on modern society as much as possible, one baby-step at a time. Don't worry, boys... An gradual extinction level event is starting soon(ish), and I plan to be in a damn fine place to watch the world burn. I can't stop it, but I can fucking enjoy it... ]=)
    Okay, so you were hook-line-sinker into the bullshit narrative, glad to see you were awakened! I know the flavor of gun oil and steel myself, and like you and so many others I survived and rose from the ashes!

    Wouldn't it sound better and piss off the feminists more if you address us as MEN? That's the one word that goes through a feminist like a wood stake goes through a vampires heart!











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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    I used to allow injustices to bother me, especially the ones I had to suffer. But now, I realize...we're all fucked! And I'm in pretty good company. Don't shoot! Let it burn! And, be careful not to get to close. You might get something on you.
    "Don't follow in my footsteps. I stepped in something."

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    I was a solo diner at a busy restaurant last night, most were young couples. I couldnt get over how piggish the young women looked. Most didn't even try to look nice. It wasn't a 5 star restaurant, but it wasn't McDonalds either. Plates were about $15. Out of the 10 women near me, ONE was attractive and all the others would rate no higher than 5. The attractive one appeared to try to look nice, the others were slobs dragging their 'everyday men' slaves around. A man would have to be really blue pilled to get affectionate with these women.
    I am just off a divorce, with years of alimony and children that have been weaponized against me. But at least my slaveowner went to the trouble to look nice and never became a land whale. I am still bitter but I rationalize to a society that stacked the odds against me, and the new generation of slaves have worse odds

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    I was a solo diner at a busy restaurant last night, most were young couples. I couldnt get over how piggish the young women looked. Most didn't even try to look nice. It wasn't a 5 star restaurant, but it wasn't McDonalds either. Plates were about $15. Out of the 10 women near me, ONE was attractive and all the others would rate no higher than 5. The attractive one appeared to try to look nice, the others were slobs dragging their 'everyday men' slaves around. A man would have to be really blue pilled to get affectionate with these women.
    I am just off a divorce, with years of alimony and children that have been weaponized against me. But at least my slaveowner went to the trouble to look nice and never became a land whale. I am still bitter but I rationalize to a society that stacked the odds against me, and the new generation of slaves have worse odds
    Fat ugly disgusting slob is the new pretty! I bet most of them had visible tattoos, no?

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Quote Originally Posted by #Redpillbible View Post
    Like a giant world ending Meteor/Comet/Asteroid to come and hit the Earth and wipe out all life.
    One is not enough, unless it really is a giant—at least as big as the Moon. And even then I would prefer at least four of them hitting the earth from different directions.

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    I was a solo diner at a busy restaurant last night, most were young couples. I couldnt get over how piggish the young women looked. Most didn't even try to look nice. It wasn't a 5 star restaurant, but it wasn't McDonalds either. Plates were about $15. Out of the 10 women near me, ONE was attractive and all the others would rate no higher than 5. The attractive one appeared to try to look nice, the others were slobs dragging their 'everyday men' slaves around. A man would have to be really blue pilled to get affectionate with these women.
    I am just off a divorce, with years of alimony and children that have been weaponized against me. But at least my slaveowner went to the trouble to look nice and never became a land whale. I am still bitter but I rationalize to a society that stacked the odds against me, and the new generation of slaves have worse odds
    I hear ya. I very often see tall, fit, even muscular guys walking around next to landwhales... I used to think "WTF?!" but I know why. Those guys have low-self esteem, and this piggy thing gives them the time of day. I was in the *exact* same situation myself, my ex-wife was kinda porky, but she was eastern european in descent (Transylvanian to be precise) so she was of naturally stocky build, with lots of muscle under that fat. And holy shit, what a chest! <3 Between her body, her smile, her extreme fair-handedness and her generalized misanthropy, she was great catch... But sexual incompatibility just can't be beaten with love alone. And jealousy does the rest. *shrug*

    Back to the point though... I see guys with women that *ARE NOT* great catches.. fucking swine in every conceivable sense. No self-respect, nothing. I don't bemoan girls that use fake-up and flattering clothes cause they like to feel pretty. Every animal likes to feel attractive; self-grooming and hygiene is a priority in all land-based species... except one.

    Fucking humans, man.. Sheesh.
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    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

    Abandon the Abandoners. Go Your Own Way, on a molecular scale. <3

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    I just keep to myself, care for me and my own, and stay out of trouble.
    And 90% (or more) a man's trouble in this world comes from women.
    So, MGTOW for me is a very valuable philosophy.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    The other 10% of our troubles comes from drinking,,, and women,,, so in that light I guess 100% of our troubles come from women!
    Last edited by mgtower; May 14, 2019 at 4:34 PM.

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Feelings? What are those?
    We all fall short somewhere.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: Should an injustice make you bitter?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    We all fall short somewhere.
    But ya gotta ask yourself, what better place to fall short?


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