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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    I don't know if it's 3-4 points but it's sure as hell 2 or more, and that's not including the fact that ALL 80% men who refuse to accept "fat acceptance" are reducing their dating pool size by 10 or 20 times. But you're exactly right: Tinder and trading "easy to get" sex to bed high-status men has definitely turned the mating area upside down, and the lower down you are in the 80% realm, the worse it is.

    But there's a flip side to that coin... Women are miserable because they get a smorgasbord of high-value cock, but none of this cock will commit. Women do not appraise themselves objectively - the appraise themselves by the value of the men (and women) around them. (This is why there is so much infighting in female social peer groups - they're all jostling for the highest social standing within that group.) So, when a woman beds a high-value man using promiscuity, she IMMEDIATELY believes she too is a high value person. But, she can't get any one Chad to commit, and she's angry that "men are pigs". But when she uses the term "men" she's only referring to the top 20% (or even 10%) of all men. 80% men are invisible to these women. Average women. Fat women. Career women (big fucking deal - I've had a career for 30+ years and nobody gives ME a medal for it!).

    When I see the expectation lists of not just average women but women who are practically losers themselves I just have a good laugh.

    When I see men in the mating arena buying these narcissistic thots dinner while these men are getting vetted by women 2 or 3 points below their own SMV, I don't know whether to laugh or actually feel sorry for them.
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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    You should read "incel" top definition on urban dictionary . That is some shit .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    This is a truism.
    There are plenty of woman who are looking for companionship and a decent man to be with. Of course, that doesn't mean they deserve it, or that they have 100% pure intuitions. Such women probably treat men like absolute shit in their younger years and once they are older and their good looks fade; they begin to 'appreciate' men.

    But some do begin (eventually get it through their dumb head) that majority of men are just decent human beings who have feelings, worries and vulnerabilities.

    The main crux of my argument is that we need to be extremely careful about what is empowering and what is disempowering when it comes to terminology/language we use.

    Even if there is such a community as INCELS, we do not need to talk about it or even mention it. We can just ignore it and if someone brings it up, we can pretend we don't understand. We have nothing to do with it, and we don't want our attention to even be taken up by such topics.

    We are mgtow and that is enough. We don't bother woman and we don't want women to bother us, that is good enough and we happy that way.

    It's like when white knights, SJW's and femicunts talk about false accusations of rape. We know that such accusation are 99.99% of the time total lies and rubbish and most likely just an unsatisfying sexual encounter. And yet, even within the manosphere, there are some men who, when challenged on the subject say something along the lines of 'well it's a terrible thing to happen' 'well I feel sorry for such women but...' 'Well, that must be a terrible thing to go through but...'.

    Can you see a pattern? It can and often is a form of placating the gynocracy.
    If there is a chance to save just one man than the discussion is worth it IMVHO. Like it has been pointed out already 80% of men in the dating pool are basically invisible to women but it is not likely all 80% men would call themselves as incels. Incel belief is that their situation is unique when the majority of the men are really in the same boat and statistically this holds up.

    The reason for the sudden attack on incels from the "outside" world has to do with the fact these men crave love, companionship, and intimacy. The "outside" world calls them abnormal when that is in fact very healthy and normal thoughts of men. Many years ago this was considered noble traits for men to have along with honor, loyalty and courage. Now, in modern society these traits are viewed as weaknesses but that is the sad truth of cultural changes influenced by technology.

    In the end holding the door open for some men to see the light is worth it regardless of what society calls them. Sometimes you have to back into the gynocentric cesspool to save a few men and I think it is worth it.

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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    Incel is, simply put, a male who refuses to pay for sex. Anyone with $200 in their pocket is not an incel - they refuse to pay for sex.
    What they don't realize is that ALL men pay for sex, in one way or another.

    "Married man sex" is the most expensive kind of all.
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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    Men get their self esteem by what they DO.

    Women get their self esteem by what they HAVE and by
    what other people think of them
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    You can always go out and do things that you are proud about doing.

    For a man, happiness is that moment they feel they have accomplished something, right before they want to go out accomplish something else.

    A woman can never have enough stuff, and even if the entire world adored her, she would still tire of it.

    The story of the Garden of Eden and Eve's betrayal, was an example of how a woman gets bored and cheats, even though she has the universe's best provider male and the original alpha male. No other woman in history will have a better provider, and no other woman in the world will ever be able to say that they have slept with the very first man, one who was hand made by God himself, and yet, she still had to break the rules and listen to the original "Chad."

    I am reminded of the meme where superman is asleep, a nude woman is sitting at the side of the bed. They clearly had sex the night before. His suit and cape are draped over the chair by the side of the bed. She is pensive, looking depressed, as she asks herself, "Is he really the best I can get?"
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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Men get their self esteem by what they DO.

    Women get their self esteem by what they HAVE and by
    what other people think of them
    .

    You can always go out and do things that you are proud about doing.

    For a man, happiness is that moment they feel they have accomplished something, right before they want to go out accomplish something else.

    A woman can never have enough stuff, and even if the entire world adored her, she would still tire of it.

    The story of the Garden of Eden and Eve's betrayal, was an example of how a woman gets bored and cheats, even though she has the universe's best provider male and the original alpha male. No other woman in history will have a better provider, and no other woman in the world will ever be able to say that they have slept with the very first man, one who was hand made by God himself, and yet, she still had to break the rules and listen to the original "Chad."

    I am reminded of the meme where superman is asleep, a nude woman is sitting at the side of the bed. They clearly had sex the night before. His suit and cape are draped over the chair by the side of the bed. She is pensive, looking depressed, as she asks herself, "Is he really the best I can get?"
    Men get their self esteem by what they do have . Yes !
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    ^ good find! iunno if that's supposed to be Lois or Lana or some random hoe, but she has a righteous rack, and she's a drawing.

    Not to go off on a tangent like I do sometimes, but imagining a real female with proportions like that reminds me of how easy it is to schism back to blue pill status.

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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    These boys likely grew up without fathers to explain the ways of the jungle - the mating arena - to them.
    Their mothers, knowing full well the mental gymnastics women do appraising men, dodged the issue by saying to their nerdy sons:

    "Just be yourself. Just be nice."

    There could not be worse advice to give to a young man. There could be nothing more pathetic when it comes to explaining the truth.


    In other words, the b1tch is saying to her own child, sorry son I can't help you with this one.

    The secrets of the mating arena must be kept from all men - even from mother to son.

    That's where MGTOW comes in. Sorry b1tches.
    Time to drag your sorry STD covered asses into the light of day.
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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    Strange as it sounds, it looks my mother broke ranks on this one.

    Not that I got any bum advice. Almost no advice was more like it. Being big on personal freedom, the parents didn't put any more thoughts in my head than they had to. That's cool, but sometimes it takes a long time to figure things out.


    What makes me think mom wasn't siding with team vagina, was the one and only time she tried to set me up. The girl she picked wasn't stupid, but she was no rocket scientist either. Kind of a placid personality. She'd a had a few kids and got fat, but probably wouldn't a left me. And I think that's why mom picked her. She knew what the average woman had in store for me, and was trying to help. Of course I didn't want anything to do with her pick. Poor mom. Oh well, at least she was on my side.
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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    These boys likely grew up without fathers to explain the ways of the jungle - the mating arena - to them.
    Their mothers, knowing full well the mental gymnastics women do appraising men, dodged the issue by saying to their nerdy sons:

    "Just be yourself. Just be nice."

    There could not be worse advice to give to a young man. There could be nothing more pathetic when it comes to explaining the truth.


    In other words, the b1tch is saying to her own child, sorry son I can't help you with this one.

    The secrets of the mating arena must be kept from all men - even from mother to son.

    That's where MGTOW comes in. Sorry b1tches.
    Time to drag your sorry STD covered asses into the light of day.
    I think this should be added to my "Great Lie" thread...
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    Re: The INCEL Issue;

    sorry son I can't help you with this one.
    It's far more than that. Women have extremely strong in-group preference when it comes to manipulating men.
    Mothers are at the top of the list, because as someone who laboured for 9 months to bring a son of her very flesh and blood and then purposefully hide that information from him, she has to be held most accountable.

    I would go as far as saying that you cannot be MGTOW and love your mother. Unless, in this very rare instance where your mother warned you of female manipulation in all aspects of life and early enough in life.

    I confronted my mother at the age of 30. She admitted the manipulative nature of women. But what use is it to know about female manipulation at 30? We should be taught about manipulation from the female gender as early as primary school in my opinion. Heck, it should be mandatory under the curriculum were I education secretary in the UK.


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