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    I remembre hearing about a study that was done about women's sexuality. They wired up women and let them watch porn. The majority of the women said that they were not aroused. But the read out from the computer said otherwise. Which lead the researchers conclude that women deny that they are interested in sex because admitting that they wanted it was not lady like. But they are interested in sex as much as guys are.
    If that is the same study that I recall, the women were wired up in lie detector manner and also with vaginal probes detecting lubrication and engorgement. The independent data showed that they lied consistently about what aroused them. Men were also part of the study and it showed that they were remarkably consistent in their responses. That is to say the words out of their mouths matched what the detectors were indicating. Also, heterosexual men were only aroused by porn involving heterosexual or lesbian sex and homosexual men were only aroused by male homosexual sex. Women, on the other hand, were pretty much pansexual. Every type of porn aroused pretty much all women, including bestiality and borderline snuff flicks. They just lied about it to everyone; probably including themselves. Women are way more sexual and way more sexually twisted than are men.

    The second point I would like to make is that you guys are all overlooking an important aspect of married/LTR sexuality for women. Really this applies to all women in all circumstances. Women want to win in what they view as a competition; that is sex. Here is how they keep score:
    They get stuff and don’t have to put out ….. the woman wins!!!!!
    They get stuff and man gets sex ….. at best it is a no score tie.
    They don’t get stuff and man gets sex …. the woman loses; and we can’t have that.

    They are all going for the win, maximum gain for them with the minimum sex to the man. This is true during courtship as well as in any relationship. However, as the relationship becomes more formal (i.e. the state gets in bed more and more) then the power to win shifts to the woman and she will maximize her wins. It is not enough to get the marriage and all the privileges and money (with cash and prizes to be awarded at the end of the relationship) to truly win she must put out as little as possible. If you have put yourself in the position where she has the power this will always be the outcome.

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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

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    Sounds like this story. Woman is rejected, she then attacks the guy with a knife.

    Woman chases man after he declines her sexual advances - Houston weather, traffic, news | FOX 26 | MyFoxHouston
    Holy hell I would not get within 1000 yards of that beast while wearing a fully encapsulated hazmat protection suit.

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    Woman Rips Off Ex

    She only got 2.5 years for it. That guy being able to have a child would be a miracle IMO.

    The article says:

    Judge Charles James told Monti he had taken into account a number of descriptions of her as a kind, conscientious and caring person and that she had also pleaded guilty before the trial.
    Okay, forgive me for getting off the topic of this thread but this has been bothering me since I read this. The original news story went into more detail than the quoted link. As I recall Monti showed up at the guy's home wanting sex. The guy declines and sends her off, locking her out when she becomes abusive. She then tried to break into the guy's house. I think she even broke a window. He goes out to confront her and she rips out one of his testicles.

    Now she does get a two and a half year sentence but let's do the standard Manosphere thought experiment in the cases of female criminals and reverse the sexes. A man shows up at a woman's home demanding sex. When spurned he attempts to break in and ends up pulling off some of her clothes and ripping off part of her genetalia. Does anyone think this guy ends up with 2.5 years? Among the multiple felonies would be an attempted rape charge. In the US he'd be on the sex offender list for the rest of his life if he ever did get out of prison. Let me be clear that I'm fine with all of that. It's the 2.5 years for Ms. Monti I find outrageous.
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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnotologist View Post
    A man shows up at a woman's home demanding sex. When spurned he attempts to break in and ends up pulling off some of her clothes and ripping off part of her genetalia. Does anyone think this guy ends up with 2.5 years? Among the multiple felonies would be an attempted rape charge. In the US he'd be on the sex offender list for the rest of his life if he ever did get out of prison.
    THAT'S if he's lucky. I think there's a better chance SWAT would be called out and he'd be killed during an attempted arrest.
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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

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    If that is the same study that I recall, the women were wired up in lie detector manner and also with vaginal probes detecting lubrication and engorgement. The independent data showed that they lied consistently about what aroused them. Men were also part of the study and it showed that they were remarkably consistent in their responses. That is to say the words out of their mouths matched what the detectors were indicating. Also, heterosexual men were only aroused by porn involving heterosexual or lesbian sex and homosexual men were only aroused by male homosexual sex. Women, on the other hand, were pretty much pansexual. Every type of porn aroused pretty much all women, including bestiality and borderline snuff flicks. They just lied about it to everyone; probably including themselves. Women are way more sexual and way more sexually twisted than are men.

    The second point I would like to make is that you guys are all overlooking an important aspect of married/LTR sexuality for women. Really this applies to all women in all circumstances. Women want to win in what they view as a competition; that is sex. Here is how they keep score:
    They get stuff and don’t have to put out ….. the woman wins!!!!!
    They get stuff and man gets sex ….. at best it is a no score tie.
    They don’t get stuff and man gets sex …. the woman loses; and we can’t have that.

    They are all going for the win, maximum gain for them with the minimum sex to the man. This is true during courtship as well as in any relationship. However, as the relationship becomes more formal (i.e. the state gets in bed more and more) then the power to win shifts to the woman and she will maximize her wins. It is not enough to get the marriage and all the privileges and money (with cash and prizes to be awarded at the end of the relationship) to truly win she must put out as little as possible. If you have put yourself in the position where she has the power this will always be the outcome.
    I'd like to see that study if you already know where it is. The thing about women is that their vagina prepares for sex whenever they see anything having sex. A hypothesis behind that is that it is to reduce damage during a rape. So if a girl sees two monkeys having sex, she will get wet down there but she won't be aroused.

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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Joker View Post
    I remembre hearing about a study that was done about women's sexuality. They wired up women and let them watch porn. The majority of the women said that they were not aroused. But the read out from the computer said otherwise. Which lead the researchers conclude that women deny that they are interested in sex because admitting that they wanted it was not lady like. But they are interested in sex as much as guys are.
    That study was classic. It wasn't just man-woman sex that got them wet: man-man, woman-woman, bonobo monkeys - anything got them excited as measured physically, all while they denied it.

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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

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    I'd like to see that study if you already know where it is. The thing about women is that their vagina prepares for sex whenever they see anything having sex. A hypothesis behind that is that it is to reduce damage during a rape. So if a girl sees two monkeys having sex, she will get wet down there but she won't be aroused.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/ma...pagewanted=all

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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

    Looks like it's making the rounds, muffpo, Tom Leykis, and even SALON.

    Wives do not owe husbands sex, no matter what the spreadsheet says - Salon.com

    The comments are more than encouraging.
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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

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    Looks like it's making the rounds, muffpo, Tom Leykis, and even SALON.

    Wives do not owe husbands sex, no matter what the spreadsheet says - Salon.com

    The comments are more than encouraging.
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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

    IIRC, one of my old buddies in "The Map Factory" told me about this "challenge."

    Starting with the honeymoon - each time you and Cupcake fornicate, put a penny into a big jar.

    Continue with that till the first anniversary of the wedding - then take a penny out of the jar for each time you fornicate.

    The average married couple will never empty the jar.

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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post
    IIRC, one of my old buddies in "The Map Factory" told me about this "challenge."

    Starting with the honeymoon - each time you and Cupcake fornicate, put a penny into a big jar.

    Continue with that till the first anniversary of the wedding - then take a penny out of the jar for each time you fornicate.

    The average married couple will never empty the jar.

    Wives do not owe husbands sex? Then men do not owe women marriage.
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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

    I have to admit, I am pleasantly surprised by the comments on that Salon thread!

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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

    Ha, found this old thread. That Salon link does not display comments to me, too bad, but the Tom Leykis link had this great comment from 2014, referring to the man not responding to his wife:

    Actually that’s exactly how to get her to fuck your brains out. It’s known as dread game and is second only to preselection in generating attraction. Right now she’s sitting there thinking what he is doing and her imagination is dreaming up all sorts of shit. She’s imagining her fucking every reasonably attractive girl she’s ever seen smile at him, she’s imagining him divorcing her (rejecting her), she’s even imaging him getting with that hot 19yo girl down the street. In reality he could be sitting at home scratching his nuts and playing video games, but her mind will always assume the worst which will generate large amounts of emotional investment and attraction.

    The absolute worst thing for him to do is to try to “communicate” with her. That is just an opportunity for her to shame his masculinity and attempt to manipulate him emotionally. Best for him to take several days of no-contact to center himself for the ensuing power struggle when she returns. He needs to come to be prepared to leave her and demonstrate through action (not more fucking talking) that he is going to do that, UNLESS she immediate submits to him sexually. Sounds evil but it’s the harsh reality of male and female relationships. Women will always, without fail, try to take power from the man in a relationship and they accomplish this primarily through sex. A man’s primary weapon is his commitment, his choice to stay with her. When a man marries he gives that weapon up but in modern society the women still retains her weapon, this creates a situation of uneven power. The man must reestablish her power by demonstrating he has options and will exercise those options if he’s not kept happy.

    Welcome to the battlefield created by third wave feminism and the destruction of the traditional family unit / gender roles. We’ve returned to our primal origins.
    I agree, had he tried to communicate with her, she would have just played her head games on him and she would not have told us that she did that. Nope.

    Instead, folks get to say he is immature, but I believe he knows he is tough enough to weather that criticism in its attempt to divert from his point. Oftentimes when you operate within the "rules" of mature behavior, the woman already knows how to manipulate within those rules. That's the underlying theme of her defense, is it not, that she is reasonable in her treatment of him while he is not, and here she is trying to create a coalition against him? I've done bold, out-of-the-box things like he did by making his spreadsheet, while being criticized for it, but when the dust clears, the undisputed facts are still in her face, long after observers have gotten bored and moved on. It's great when they realize they can't use the hammer of societal perception against you. I hope it worked for him.
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    Wow, spreadsheet? That's about the time I would give her walking papers. As females gain strength via the law, the hive, and gynocentric society, it's only logical that men raise the threshold of intolerance and indifference, otherwise he's in for allot of undeserving and unmitigated abuse. Chivalry is a prime example of a low threshold if any at all. Chivalry is now a fools game played by fools that think otherwise.
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    I remember reading this years ago, and also heard the Tom Leykis discussion about it. The women will of course say they do not owe their husbands sex. Fine then. Men do not owe women marriage, new houses, cars, money, attention, expensive jewelry, vacations, so on and so on.

    They can keep their sex. Frankly, I don't fucking want it anymore. I certainly don't want their marriage. The money I make could pay for a lot of fucking jewelry, and vacations, and houses. But apparently, it wouldn't be worth enough to warrant a sympathy fuck every now and then. That's fine, I'll just keep the money! I'll use it to finance an early retirement in Southeast Asia, and to pay for vacations. I'll use it to buy the things I want, and they can make their own money. Sounds like a great deal...FOR ME.

    These women are fucking delusional. They believe being born with a hole that only has a few fuckable years before they hit the wall automatically entitles them to EVERYTHING A MAN CAN EARN for the rest of his life, and said man isn't even entitled to use that hole! It's unbelievable. They'll find out how much they're worth when they are old, alone, and living on welfare.

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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post
    I remember reading this years ago, and also heard the Tom Leykis discussion about it. The women will of course say they do not owe their husbands sex. Fine then. Men do not owe women marriage, new houses, cars, money, attention, expensive jewelry, vacations, so on and so on.

    They can keep their sex. Frankly, I don't fucking want it anymore. I certainly don't want their marriage. The money I make could pay for a lot of fucking jewelry, and vacations, and houses. But apparently, it wouldn't be worth enough to warrant a sympathy fuck every now and then. That's fine, I'll just keep the money! I'll use it to finance an early retirement in Southeast Asia, and to pay for vacations. I'll use it to buy the things I want, and they can make their own money. Sounds like a great deal...FOR ME.

    These women are fucking delusional. They believe being born with a hole that only has a few fuckable years before they hit the wall automatically entitles them to EVERYTHING A MAN CAN EARN for the rest of his life, and said man isn't even entitled to use that hole! It's unbelievable. They'll find out how much they're worth when they are old, alone, and living on welfare.
    That really sums it up! Except the welfare and other socialistic benefits, they'll be gone as immigration replaces culture and things become much more neanderthal and territorial, all in the future when standards diminish to nothing and the heat of survival are turned up!

    During the western cultural revolution values (like human life) have diminished to zero, only men "especially white men"(affirmative action) have been positioned to bear the brunt of this "new day of suffering", with the suffering being done to men numbering multiple millions (regardless of color) over generations!

    Equality is someone else choosing what's fair for you, guided by their hand selected one-sided demands with special benefits. Great way to scare away your workhorse and its the gravest mistake the plantation has ever done, now their only ace in the hole is the cultural gynocentric indoctrinated youth subverted by the communist endorsing radical left agents of the public school system, you know, the one that costs the most and delivers the least, yea, that public school system! The one that destroyed education!

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    Re: Husband Sends Wife Spreadsheet Detailing Sex-Life Dissatisfaction

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    That really sums it up! Except the welfare and other socialistic benefits, they'll be gone as immigration replaces culture and things become much more neanderthal and territorial, all in the future when standards diminish to nothing and the heat of survival are turned up!

    During the western cultural revolution values (like human life) have diminished to zero, only men "especially white men"(affirmative action) have been positioned to bear the brunt of this "new day of suffering", with the suffering being done to men numbering multiple millions (regardless of color) over generations!

    ...
    This thing, the hatred against white men has gone way too far now. This is going to give rise to white nationalism. They will create the very "wolf" they have cried all the time.

    The other day at dinner table, others in family were talking about how British ruined India and its society. I was like... its been 70 years since we got independence, and if we werent able to fix anything by now, then the fault is with us, we should just stop blaming a bunch of people from almost a century ago, for our current problems. Its beyond pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    This thing, the hatred against white men has gone way too far now. This is going to give rise to white nationalism. They will create the very "wolf" they have cried all the time.

    The other day at dinner table, others in family were talking about how British ruined India and its society. I was like... its been 70 years since we got independence, and if we werent able to fix anything by now, then the fault is with us, we should just stop blaming a bunch of people from almost a century ago, for our current problems. Its beyond pathetic.
    Bravo! Responsibility and accountability, can't have one without the other, both together work the wheels of natural justice, which is when one's own tyranny is perpetrated against one's self. The children need to burn their hands in spite of rebuke, otherwise they'll burn the house down from within a protected cocoon, it's easy when the button electrocutes someone else, but when it's wired to electrocute yourself (accountability) it's never pushed and kept covered to avoid accidental ignition.

    They want equality? Lets start with accountability, where they're held accountable for their shortcomings, not rewarded with so many cash prizes by legislative initiatives based on race and gender!

    End entitlements, fuckem all together! Give them nothing and call it "Paid in Full!", about time they got what they deserve!
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    Great thread bump! Sex stops after marriage. That's one of the most important things young men need to know these days. One of the main reasons a man marries is so he can have regular sex with his wife, and un-apologetically about that, but I guess they didn't get the memo.

    Besides, by the time an old hag decides to settle for a beta provider, they are bored from sex from having so much of it with so many other guys when they were younger and had a better body. Then some fool marries it.
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