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    I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Where do I start? I'm now in a steady relationship. There, I said it. You can burn me at the stake now. :P

    Scroll down far enough on this forum and you'll find a post from me titled "So I try to help a buddy out". The next evening, the 3 of us went to the movies. I've never seen my buddy and his girl together so I never saw how he treated her. He treated her like trash, degraded her, bossed her around, etc... Turns out my best pal is not the kind of guy I thought he was and not someone I want to be friends with.

    Next morning I started texting with his girlfriend, a few days later she wanted to come over to get away from everything for a while. She stayed with me that night, cried her heart out, I drove her home to her parents. She broke up with him (in person) that same day and I stayed another night with her at her parents house. We have been together ever since. Her whole family is happy to see this guy gone and they welcomed me with open arms. Yesterday I gave her the spare keys to my place...

    Suddenly I find myself doing things I have never done before and I never had so much fun in my life. I'm used to having to do all the work in a relationship, I'm still not used to a girl doing just as much effort for me...

    I'll see what happens in the future, at least I have my eyes open because of all the stuff I've been through in the past.

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Meh, you have taken the red pill, so you should know when this girl tries to pull off some stunt to take shit away from you or otherwise ruin your life. And as a MGTOW, you should know how laws help her and society encourages her. Have fun, by all means, just don't let her have any leverage over you.
    Marriage is like Russian Roulette. Except your wife put in two more bullets and the death the bullets deliver won't be quick or painless.

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    She does want to have kids, I'm well aware of all the consequences of having a kid and breaking up afterwards. "Oops" won't happen with her, she is on medication against epilepsy. She would have to quit her medication at least 6 months before getting pregnant. Getting pregnant unexpectedly is so dangerous for her she has a birth control implant. I actually want kids in the future, just not in the situation I'm in now. I need to finish my education, find a better job, get my own house, etc before we talk about kids.

    There are a few things I won't do because my past and I told her so: I won't marry her, ever. I will put her in my will in the future, but I don't want to marry. Buying a place together will only happen if we agree to put on paper what happens if we split up or one party neglects their financial obligations. So far we seem to agree on all those things.

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

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    I won't marry her, ever. I will put her in my will in the future, but I don't want to marry.
    WTF , you have given her the key to your place, talking about finances i.e talking about a will with a girl I presume you have just met. You are head over heels in pussy fog right now, just be aware.

    So you don't want to marry, but you do want her to move in and live with you otherwise why discuss 'till death do us part' , and you can have my money. You're hooked! no doubt about it, claws in, next comes the resource extraction, which BTW you have already agreed you are going to give her all your money.

    Everything in life is transient, don't expect the good times to roll forever, you could find yourself ending up in a situation you wish you hadn't got yourself into.
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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hesiod View Post
    WTF , you have given her the key to your place, talking about finances i.e talking about a will with a girl I presume you have just met. You are head over heels in pussy fog right now, just be aware.

    So you don't want to marry, but you do want her to move in and live with you otherwise why discuss 'till death do us part' , and you can have my money. You're hooked! no doubt about it, claws in, next comes the resource extraction, which BTW you have already agreed you are going to give her all your money.

    Everything in life is transient, don't expect the good times to roll forever, you could find yourself ending up in a situation you wish you hadn't go yourself into.
    Yeah, let's have the important discussions 6 months in and then find out you don't agree on the really big stuff...

    BTW, the will and moving in, kids etc will be years from now. Just because we talked about it does not mean it will happen next week...

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Quote Originally Posted by VTOLfreak View Post
    BTW, the will and moving in, kids etc will be years from now. Just because we talked about it does not mean it will happen next week...
    Maybe but I would say this is moving way too fast even for someone in a blue pill world.

    I wish you luck
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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    I have to say I'm getting major red flags from OP himself, but as per request of the mods I'll keep my accusations on the dl.
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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    I have to say I'm getting major red flags from OP himself, but as per request of the mods I'll keep my accusations on the dl.
    Ah, so I wasn't the only one. Also, are you getting red flags from the girl too? If she stuck with an abusive boyfriend, odds are her father was abusive. My guts are telling me she ain't gonna be good in the long run. Of course, since we are MGTOWs, I have no reason to believe you will be having a long term relationship.
    Marriage is like Russian Roulette. Except your wife put in two more bullets and the death the bullets deliver won't be quick or painless.

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    I've never seen my buddy and his girl together so I never saw how he treated her. He treated her like trash, degraded her, bossed her around, etc... Turns out my best pal is not the kind of guy I thought he was and not someone I want to be friends with.

    Next morning I started texting with his girlfriend,...
    So on the strength of one outing, you immediately renounced any loyalty to your 'friend', sided with his girlfriend, started communicating with her the next day, and now she's your live-in?

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Quote Originally Posted by VTOLfreak View Post
    Yesterday I gave her the spare keys to my place...
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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    VTOLfreak, what exactly do you want from this forum? To be honest, it’s become tiresome trying to offer any advice when you have already decided to live on your own terms—regardless of any suggestion offered here. At this point, it seems like you only desire a certain notoriety—mixed with envy and admiration—for having a sexual relationship with the female companion of your alleged “friend”.

    If you choose to renounce MGTOW, fine. I have never seen myself as someone proselytizing on behalf of GYOW. On the contrary, I’m glad to see that you are “having so much fun in your life”. If you manage to enjoy all the benefits of physical and emotional intimacy with some woman—while avoiding all the pitfalls—then truly you shall effect a miracle of rare device. While I suspect that this new “romance” will prove transient in nature, enjoy it while it lasts.
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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    The only violence I have experienced has been at the hands of women.

    I live in Canada, So I'm living behind enemy behinds.

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    P U S S Y * F O G * A L E R T ! ! !

    I mean, holy shitballs Batman!

    It's not for me to suggest how a man should live his life, if he believes a certain course of action will tend towards his happiness. But I urge you, brother, in the name of the all the things we fellows discuss here, to think carefully about everything you're doing and everything she's telling you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Ma-Niac View Post
    Meh, you have taken the red pill, so you should know when this girl tries to pull off some stunt to take shit away from you or otherwise ruin your life. And as a MGTOW, you should know how laws help her and society encourages her. Have fun, by all means, just don't let her have any leverage over you.

    That ship has sailed...

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    Yesterday I gave her the spare keys to my place...
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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Come on man...is the car off the blocks by now? If the answer is no...then why are you giving this women your keys to your castle....

    Let me keep it real because I think it is important. You are young so of course have fun, but you are not in full control if a woman is able to change her allegiance to whatever male comes into her life.

    The hardest lesson I learned when I was younger was that I can not control everything that other people choose to do. Your current choice seem like a choice made trying to assert a direction in your life, but you must accept that this woman has pivoted in the other direction without involving you.

    I wish you luck but this is one of those lessons you are going to have to learn on your own.

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    From a bird's eye view I knew the outcome from the beginning: "Helping" out a "buddy". Yeah.....

    'Good luck'. And from now on watch out for your own buddies or hers and their good samaritan 'helpfulness'. And always the uncertainty of this lady's (shakily?) loyalty when the first problem or fight occurs and she begins to phone or text message with someone else.

    She knows how to play the game. An "angel like" intimate phone talk with someone else about sex in the church. Texting messages. Staying the night. Crying. And the make-believe scenario, that she contacts a guy like he is some kind of a 'good girlfriend'.

    This 'helping out' and 'I am always there for you' was even a topic in one Seinfeld TV-episode. Pretending to only be a good friend. And then suddenly, mysteriously there is a new love. Surprise, surprise^^

    This all is not about a unicorn or NAWALT. This is not a case sui generis. History repeats itself...

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Willers View Post
    in the name of the all the things we fellows discuss here, to think carefully about everything you're doing and everything she's telling you.
    I agree, and hope he does take time to reflect, unfortunately we seem to have a situation where everything that has been mentioned and all that has been learned has gone out the window.

    Remember, though it will be difficult to see right now, she's not your girl 'it's just your turn'
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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Here is my take on OP´s behaviour:

    - He ended a friendship over (how to treat) a girl.
    - He started texting a girlfriend of a friend while they were in a relationship
    - He disrespected his friend by sleeping with his girlfriend while they were still in a relationship
    - He believed what the girlfriend said about his friend (while it is possible that she has lied or at least exaggerated some stuff).
    - He started a relationship with his newfound girl (I mean why do that? For the continued access to sex?)
    - He gave the girl a key to his place after a few months. (IMO OP is really fast, even some blue pill guys can wait a few years) (OP also would not do this without sex).
    - He wants to put the girl in his will already (again, just for a few months of sex).

    The girl is probably really hot, because OP gets played here really easily.

    It also just shows how easy men can get played if a girl of their liking walks by. Even after being on a forum like this. Be careful guys.
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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Kind of beta orbiter ploy, just remember to go bad boy on her once she loses the tingles of being rescued and needs her bad boy fix again. If you go too bad boy on her she will fall into the arms of another white knight, too little and she will lose tingles. Use you RP knowledge wisely.

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    Re: I haven't been posting much... Here's why...

    Have to say that OP isn't acting very MGTOW like. The sex is fine, talking to a girl is just a part of life, but trusting a girl over one's best friend? Wills and house keys after a few months? OP says that his friend treated his girlfriend badly, but based on the 'I helped a buddy out' thread, I think there is a direct link between the bad treatment and the 'help' given. The thread is here if people wanna look;

    http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow...lp-buddy-8973/

    In all, quite a number of flags being raised here. So to speak.


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