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    The growing trend - is it just women that make men go their own way? Or socio-economic causes too?

    Had a quiet moment this weekend - don't get those very often. Mind wanders at those times, mine doesn't like to sit idle. It had me looking back and forward. On my own road to going my own way. But also on the growing trend. It's difficult to get a grasp on how big this little boys club of ours is since there's no official membership, and many who live the lifestyle likely never even heard of the term MGTOW. The key statistic is the marriage rates. Families no longer form.
    And it made me wonder. Is it just the women and their entitled nature these days? Just the legal hazards? Or are there more reasons?

    Men plan long-term. When we consider to start a family we know we will be responsible for that family for a good two decades at the very least. Thus we must be able to provide for a family for that duration. It wasn't so long ago that you had a job with a company, blue or whitecollar, and would work for that company your entire life. These days, that's becoming more and more rare. That erodes the foundation of stable income. When a man is uncertain of his future, is he not reluctant to take on long term commitments? It may be just my own nature - I know myself to prefer a firm and stable economic bedrock under me and have arranged my lifestyle accordingly, with consistently more cash in then out - 'though I probably should look into something different then a savings account. Inflation to me feels like theft of value. There should be a way to harden reserves against inflation. But I'm no financial expert. But I digress.

    Jobs have fragmented. A lot of easy come, easy go part time work combined with a patchwork of selfemployed contractors who have no guarantee of continued employment. I can see how responsible men wouldn't even bother trying to form a family in such an economic climate. Is this increasing flexibilization of the workforce not also a reason for men to disengage from society - as their classic workhorse role no longer even exists? Is that another problem caused by feminism dumping a lot of employees looking for part time work into the labor force - or am I reversing cause and effect there, and did the request for part time work cause a boom in women entering the workforce? Or is that a correlation that is coincidental?

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    Re: The growing trend - is it just women that make men go their own way? Or socio-economic causes too?

    Women are only a very small part of why I went my own way. In fact I was going my own way from a very young age, well before I even had an interest in women or sex.

    Society in general is set up for sheep. Society wants men to suffer and keep suffering. That is why it hates MGTOW so much we are a threat as we stand up and refuse to play the game.

    So in short, Society makes men go their own way. Someone mentioned it in another thread, from a young age boys are taught one way or another that they don't matter and that women and work and everything else comes first.

    Fuck that.

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    90% of companies go bankrupt with 2 years ...

    Men make same low wages working at the same low jobs with same low prospects ...

    Women are sexually attracted to spontaneous men only ...

    Internet . Women see men from The City of London , LA , Monaco , tropical islands ... while themselves living in the rust belt of rural socialist republic ...

    Do you guys pm to your favorite actresses , porn stars , female athletes , models, female billionaires on the internet ?

    Women do !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    90% of companies go bankrupt with 2 years ...

    Men make same low wages working at the same low jobs with same low prospects ...

    Women are sexually attracted to spontaneous men only ...

    Internet . Women see men from The City of London , LA , Monaco , tropical islands ... while themselves living in the rust belt of rural socialist republic ...

    Do you guys pm to your favorite actresses , porn stars , female athletes , models, female billionaires on the internet ?

    Women do !

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    Ambition is over rated. Ever asked what your manager gets paid? You might be surprised to find out it's not a whole lot more than you make! I've been there myself - twice! I have done the hard yards, the long hours, the stress all to be paid a couple of hundred extra in fact that was the second time. The first time they had to increase my pay so I could go back to earning the same as I did as when I was a worker!

    Women are irresponsible and want excitement that is why they love all those rappers and rock stars and assorted hoodlums. Those men being irresponsible also don't care about spending big on women.

    Yeah women write to their fave stars etc and follow their twitter accounts. Camp outside their hotel's. It's sad.

    In regards to the original post I want to add that I think a lot of men go MGTOW when they realize they have been sold a lie. Divorce would play a major part in that. Also for the past 4 decades at least we have been sold this concept of "Equality" and I think we are starting to see that their idea of Equality is anything but equal.

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    Re: The growing trend - is it just women that make men go their own way? Or socio-economic causes too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morlock View Post
    Ambition is over rated. Ever asked what your manager gets paid? You might be surprised to find out it's not a whole lot more than you make! I've been there myself - twice! I have done the hard yards, the long hours, the stress all to be paid a couple of hundred extra in fact that was the second time. The first time they had to increase my pay so I could go back to earning the same as I did as when I was a worker!

    Women are irresponsible and want excitement that is why they love all those rappers and rock stars and assorted hoodlums. Those men being irresponsible also don't care about spending big on women.

    Yeah women write to their fave stars etc and follow their twitter accounts. Camp outside their hotel's. It's sad.
    That is precisely my point, i could wrote an encyclopedia about it . Doesnt matter the perceived "position" it is still a low job .

    Low pay , no luxuries , doing the same with everybody but responsible for everything plus training obligations .

    It is not sad or funny it is just how it is .

    MGTOW has nothing to do with low marriage rates ( thanks god for them !!! ) .

    Women are disgusted by 80% of men .
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    Men first figure out that they are not desired , they never been , but still figure it out . Then wait until hormones vain a little .

    Then go MGTOW .
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    Re: The growing trend - is it just women that make men go their own way? Or socio-economic causes too?

    I think it comes from the universal attack on everything that gives a man self-actualization. His personal sovereignty, masculinity, ambition, passions, competency, confidence, achievements, interests, logic, contributions, imagination, love, sacrifice, commitment, and dreams. Each and every one these attributes have been systematically attacked and denigrated. The attackers list several 'reasons' such as: equality, oppression, sexism, toxicity, etc.

    Whimyn have jumped on this bandwagon of male damnation because it benefits them. The media, likewise, has jumped on the bandwagon because the most easily manipulated segment of society is on board. The business sector is grasping for the purse strings because they know who receives the wealth transfers. The political scum are chasing the bandwagon for votes.

    So, that leaves an alerted mind with a choice: join the zombie horde of people trying to numb themselves to reality through various distractions; or, see what is going on around them and deliberately choose how they participate. This, at least, is how I see the Blue Pill/Red Pill decision.

    At least, this is view from my sty.
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    Re: The growing trend - is it just women that make men go their own way? Or socio-economic causes too?

    Their is very little loyalty toward men from country, work, other men and women.

    It is not a dystopian future but as others have said before MGTOW is about survival and knowledge.

    This is why while everyone around me is pestering me about having a family I am thinking to myself "Almost paid off my debt and I am finally free".

    The mindset is so radically different that most can not comprehend what real freedom looks like. That is why I push myself harder than ever because I know that by paying down debt I can shift my resources to generating income passively but also starting my own business.

    Being a master of your own destiny is very important because being dragged around in chains is terrible way to live.

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    Re: The growing trend - is it just women that make men go their own way? Or socio-economic causes too?

    Everything in life is a trade-off. When you make a decision, the opportunity cost is paid when compared to your next best choice. We have progressed and advanced so quickly that a lot of the things that we have now weren't available 50 years ago. As long as you had enough money, you could buy it and it improves your quality of life. This helped our side a lot more than intended. Yes the cost of living went up and yes our expenses went up but we still had enough money to improve our life while remaining single. Even for the men that don't buy anything, it's still better. Feeding, clothing and cleaning for one is always and WILL ALWAYS be less than doing for 2, 3, 4... it's a sheer numbers game. We win because we require very little on our own.

    The powers that be assumed that our behaviour regarding women would remain constant regardless, that we would always choose the side of slavery because our biological imperative would make us put up with them anyways. Since they assumed that we would be pussybeggars for all eternity anyway, nobody was paying attention to just how far the scales have been tipped in our favour. Females also assumed the same thing too, they expected to be able to wrap us around their fingers. When they can't have what they want, they amplify and this is the phase we're seeing, where a lot of women are amplifying their behaviour and screaming to anyone and everyone. This makes them look even worse in the eyes of those that were on the fence.

    At this point, I don't even know what's on the other side of that fucking scale that would make me choose family life. All the benefits that I see over there are here too.

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    AeternusDoleo, you are correct, inflation is theft. Having 3 months expenses worth of cash in a savings account is good. Having a lot more than that in a savings account is unwise. As the savers in Cyprus found out, there is no guarantee of getting our money back. I don't know what country you live in, let alone your living situation so I can't give investing advice. I will say that the stock and bond markets look risky, right now. I have part of my savings in silver coins, hidden on my property. Its a long term saving/investment against inflation or even a currency crisis.
    Many men do plan long term. I had a similar belief in the past, that I would get my professional career underway and spend the rest of my life working for a company as a valued and well paid employee. That belief has been dashed on the shoals of reality as I discovered that men aren't valued, regardless of education/skills/experience. I am sure that some men who expected to be loyal workhorses are now discovering that they will not reach that goal. It takes decades to accumulate enough wealth, even as a single man to achieve a stable financial situation when there are no reliable jobs. As has been pointed out in the past, the older a man gets, the more likely he is to find his way off the plantation.

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    Re: The growing trend - is it just women that make men go their own way? Or socio-economic causes too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boar View Post
    I think it comes from the universal attack on everything that gives a man self-actualization. His personal sovereignty, masculinity, ambition, passions, competency, confidence, achievements, interests, logic, contributions, imagination, love, sacrifice, commitment, and dreams. Each and every one these attributes have been systematically attacked and denigrated. The attackers list several 'reasons' such as: equality, oppression, sexism, toxicity, etc.

    Whimyn have jumped on this bandwagon of male damnation because it benefits them. The media, likewise, has jumped on the bandwagon because the most easily manipulated segment of society is on board. The business sector is grasping for the purse strings because they know who receives the wealth transfers. The political scum are chasing the bandwagon for votes.

    So, that leaves an alerted mind with a choice: join the zombie horde of people trying to numb themselves to reality through various distractions; or, see what is going on around them and deliberately choose how they participate. This, at least, is how I see the Blue Pill/Red Pill decision.

    At least, this is view from my sty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toolate View Post
    Chaos sells more soap, to women.
    Marketing is targeting women cause it only works on them .

    Marketing doesnt work on men ... unless there are women around them .
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    Re: The growing trend - is it just women that make men go their own way? Or socio-economic causes too?

    When I was a kid my region had the same ups and downs the nation had, along with the radical boom and bust cycles of the timber industry. It worked out mostly cause the industry needed men bad enough they had to pay a more or less living wage. It wasn't much fun though, being rich one year and poor the next, but it came with the territory.

    When the timber empire crashed in the eighty's, half of us lost our jobs. Some moved, others found different work, some dried up and blew away. But a region cant bounce back quickly from a hit like that. Then the federal government started plying their trade too. Used to be, the northwest had recessions and recovery's the way the rest of the country did. But in the eighty's when Ronnie and George took over, the recovery's stopped coming, and recessions are all we get now.

    Some people are doing fine, most are getting by and that's about it. I don't see how a young guy could have much of a chance to raise a family anymore. Not without being taken advantage of anyway.
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    Re: The growing trend - is it just women that make men go their own way? Or socio-economic causes too?

    It's been said in many red pill/purple pill spaces that "women are the gatekeepers to sex, while men are the gatekeepers to relationships."

    I used to 100% believe that. Made me think I had so much power and all that other good stuff.

    But here's a deal, man. This is where the 80% of the women only want the top 20% of the men saying becomes totally true. If you are an 80%er like me, why would you commit to a fattie, a crazy, or an ugly if those are pretty much the only ones who are pressuring you for a commitment?! ( I can hear some idiot on red pill Reddit say "Lift, brou" or some crap like that

    And think that some red pill guys had the nerve to say that men are The Gatekeepers of Relationships?! Make me laugh again, sir!

    It's the women, dude! Everything else hamstering for the fact that some females are dumb enough to confuse a Chad slumming it up for a night for an easy lay. Then these idiotic women think that their 4 SMV rating plus hizb 7 SMV rating makes her a Immaculate ELEVEN out of a 10 point scale.

    I haven't opted for a relationship since 2014. Did it again, no one pressure be for a relationship since then either. My haven't changed.

    I find the idea that I have to settle for a woman who has some other guys kids or especially a slightly to moderately overweight woman almost insulting. Considering that I lost 40 pounds will I gained right after high school in half a year.

    So I've got to say it's the women. I'm a 5 or 6 SMV. But I'm low income and have to settle for 4s, 5s, and 3s too often. Sure, I can get the odd 6 or 7. But they're batshit crazy and/or daily users of hard drugs. (I'm a twice a month partier that way.)

    Now if it were 7 or 10 years ago, I'd get bashed on Red Pill Reddit for defeatism. Hear some "lift, Bro. Up your SMV by making more money ." Back then, without Facebook or Tinder, it was easier. Back then, it seemed once you got in a chick's pants, they were yours without even trying whenever you wanted for a few weeks or months without even trying or committing.

    I think social media makes it a lot easier for 80% of the woman to chase the top 20% of men. The problem with those chicks is that they confuse their SMV with the RMV (Relationship Market Value). Just because a Chad will slum it up and pump and dump them.

    And they have the nerve to call men little kids about sex? Ha, it's been known for centuries that at best--women are the TEENAGER OF THE YEAR FOR LIFE!. Especially emotional maturity-wise: http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow...er-house-7041/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Francis View Post
    It's been said and some red pill spaces that women are the gatekeepers to sex, while men are the gatekeepers to relationships. I used to 100% believe that. Made me think I had so much power and all that other good stuff.

    But here's a deal, man. This is where the 80% of the women only want the top 20% of the men saying becomes totally true. If you are an 80%er like me, why would you commit to a fattie, a crazy, or an ugly if those are pretty much the only ones who are pressuring you for a commitment?! ( I can hear some idiot on red pill Reddit say "Lift, brou" or some crap like that

    And think that some red pill guys had the nerve to say that men are The Gatekeepers of Relationships?! Make me laugh again, sir!

    It's the women, dude! Everything else hamstering for the fact that some females are dumb enough to confuse a Chad slumming it up for a night for an easy lay. Then these idiotic women think that their 4 SMV rating plus hizb 7 SMV rating makes her a Immaculate ELEVEN out of a 10 point scale.

    I haven't opted for a relationship since 2014. Did it again, no one pressure be for a relationship since then either. My haven't changed.

    I find the idea that I have to settle for a woman who has some other guys kids or especially a slightly to moderately overweight woman almost insulting. Considering that I lost 40 pounds will I gained right after high school in half a year.

    So I've got to say it's the women. I'm a 5 or 6 SMV. But I'm low income and have to settle for 4s, 5s, and 3s too often. Sure, I can get the odd 6 or 7. But they're batshit crazy and/or daily users of hard drugs. (I'm a twice a month partier that way.)

    Now if it were 7 or 10 years ago, I'd get bashed on Red Pill Reddit for defeatism. Hear some "lift, Bro. Up your SMV by making more money ." Back then, without Facebook or Tinder, it was easier. Back then, it seemed once you got in a chick's pants, they were yours without even trying whenever you wanted for a few weeks or months without even trying or committing.

    I think social media makes it a lot easier for 80% of the woman to chase the top 20% of men. The problem with those chicks is that they confuse their SMV with the RMV (Relationship Market Value). Just because a Chad will slum it up and pump and dump them.

    And they have the nerve to call men little kids about sex? Ha, it's been known for centuries that at best--women are the TEENAGER OF THE YEAR FOR LIFE!. Especially emotional maturity-wise: http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow...er-house-7041/
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    Look, the only difference between now and before the social media revolution is that now we can see hard proof that women only go for the top 5% of men. This was true before, but now we are connected more than ever, any below average cunt can have a 9/10 grade Chad/Tyrone within hours.

    However, the biggest change comes with the LAWS. Even if you are just casually dating a women, she can very easily go to the police and file an allegation of rape and destroy your life. You don't even have to sleep with her, the allegation alone is enough to destroy you and your reputation. And the police (who are usually men) will come to your house, arrest you, and a judge (most likely a man as well) will send you to a cell with a bunch of wild animals who will, for sure anally rape you.

    What man in their right mind, would sacrifice his money, career, savings, wealth and life for such a deal?

    To go even deeper into another layer, I think the distribution of authentic red pill knowledge (not the diluted but 100% red pill insights) about females and how they behave in a morally corrupt way has made men understand that women are cunning, deceptive and sinister creatures. And once you understand that, you cannot go back, you see women very differently, you begin to think very carefully about how to interact with them.

    So I don't think it is economical (though it is a factor), because there are many blue pillers who would gladly go into debt for even a single mother with five children of different colours from five different ex-cons. But even these blue pillers are now thinking of the legal ramifications and they are staying the hell away from women as a matter of survival!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Look, the only difference between now and before the social media revolution is that now we can see hard proof that women only go for the top 5% of men. This was true before, but now we are connected more than ever, any below average cunt can have a 9/10 grade Chad/Tyrone within hours.

    However, the biggest change comes with the LAWS. Even if you are just casually dating a women, she can very easily go to the police and file an allegation of rape and destroy your life. You don't even have to sleep with her, the allegation alone is enough to destroy you and your reputation. And the police (who are usually men) will come to your house, arrest you, and a judge (most likely a man as well) will send you to a cell with a bunch of wild animals who will, for sure anally rape you.

    What man in their right mind, would sacrifice his money, career, savings, wealth and life for such a deal?

    To go even deeper into another layer, I think the distribution of authentic red pill knowledge (not the diluted but 100% red pill insights) about females and how they behave in a morally corrupt way has made men understand that women are cunning, deceptive and sinister creatures. And once you understand that, you cannot go back, you see women very differently, you begin to think very carefully about how to interact with them.

    So I don't think it is economical (though it is a factor), because there are many blue pillers who would gladly go into debt for even a single mother with five children of different colours from five different ex-cons. But even these blue pillers are now thinking of the legal ramifications and they are staying the hell away from women as a matter of survival!
    This ! We are sugar coating a lot with our 10/80 % , it used to be 20/80 % , but out forum changed it to 10/90 rule .

    When in reality it is now just top 1% they go for . Or the top 1% of the 1% to be more precise
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeternusDoleo View Post
    It wasn't so long ago that you had a job with a company, blue or whitecollar, and would work for that company your entire life. These days, that's becoming more and more rare. That erodes the foundation of stable income. When a man is uncertain of his future, is he not reluctant to take on long term commitments?
    The most reliable husband a girl can have, these days, is Big Daddy Government.

    I've said this before: this is the way white people destroyed native cultures again and again, by supplying food and blankets to women and children. Because fathers carry the culture forward. Women are short-sighted: they see only the people they immediately interact with. In excellent detail, but that's as far as it goes. Their primary concern is their own bodies, and those of their children when they are infants. Anything long-range, men do.

    Australian Aborigine culture, like most premodern cultures, is built out of secrets. Privileged information. For instance: a premodern man literally cannot cook a meal from raw ingredients. Just wouldn't know how to do it. Doesn't know the secret of how to make bread, doesn't know what herbs go in the stew. And this information is jealously guarded: women will chase thier husbands out of the kitchen with a ladle if they start getting curious. For another example: trade guilds.

    Men, likewise in these cultures, have secrets. Among the aboriginies, the way they held territory was not so much by war and fighting (which, of course, they did), but by knowing where the waterholes are. And this information was secret, held by the men. To reduce inbreeding (always a problem), tribes would intermarry. But it was always the woman who would move and go to another tribe.

    You know those aboriginal paintings? Some of them are "secret dreamings", not to be shared with outsiders. I bet those ones are maps. Very symbolic, of course, but maps none the same.

    So. Imagine the impact on this culture of white civilisation. This secret knowledge about the (literal) land, the (literal) terrain basically is the culture. Half of it, anyway. Food and blankets for the women and children, roads and maps for the men. Gone. All gone. No wonder they are all sniffing petrol - what else is there for a young man to look forward to? (And let's not overlook how the white man's food and healthcare undercuts the role of the women).

    And, as I said, we are now doing it to ourselves. Household mechanisation to destroy the distinctive role of the wife as homemaker, and job instability to destroy the role of the husband as provider. Why marry? Why form a family at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    The most reliable husband a girl can have, these days, is Big Daddy Government.

    I've said this before: this is the way white people destroyed native cultures again and again, by supplying food and blankets to women and children. Because fathers carry the culture forward. Women are short-sighted: they see only the people they immediately interact with. In excellent detail, but that's as far as it goes. Their primary concern is their own bodies, and those of their children when they are infants. Anything long-range, men do.

    Australian Aborigine culture, like most premodern cultures, is built out of secrets. Privileged information. For instance: a premodern man literally cannot cook a meal from raw ingredients. Just wouldn't know how to do it. Doesn't know the secret of how to make bread, doesn't know what herbs go in the stew. And this information is jealously guarded: women will chase thier husbands out of the kitchen with a ladle if they start getting curious. For another example: trade guilds.

    Men, likewise in these cultures, have secrets. Among the aboriginies, the way they held territory was not so much by war and fighting (which, of course, they did), but by knowing where the waterholes are. And this information was secret, held by the men. To reduce inbreeding (always a problem), tribes would intermarry. But it was always the woman who would move and go to another tribe.

    You know those aboriginal paintings? Some of them are "secret dreamings", not to be shared with outsiders. I bet those ones are maps. Very symbolic, of course, but maps none the same.

    So. Imagine the impact on this culture of white civilisation. This secret knowledge about the (literal) land, the (literal) terrain basically is the culture. Half of it, anyway. Food and blankets for the women and children, roads and maps for the men. Gone. All gone. No wonder they are all sniffing petrol - what else is there for a young man to look forward to? (And let's not overlook how the white man's food and healthcare undercuts the role of the women).

    And, as I said, we are now doing it to ourselves. Household mechanisation to destroy the distinctive role of the wife as homemaker, and job instability to destroy the role of the husband as provider. Why marry? Why form a family at all?
    I've read about that before. Give the women and children items they want and need which also emasculates the men of the society/tribe and in turn the men become dependent on and idolize this new group/tribe who are doing the providing. We see this with multiculturalism and unbridled immigration in the West. I see a lot of ugly fat white women with Indian men. The Indian men just like being with a white and preferably blonde chick who does slutty things and the white woman likes having a very traditional man who will be her slave. It helps that many of these Indian men come from wealthy families. So again, you make the men of the group (white men) emasculated and feel like they can't or shouldn't bother competing. Many of these women end up dead but that is another thread.

    Australian Aboriginals also have a rule about not speaking to one's mother in law directly. This applies to men and women. They knew what was up and what they were trying to protect and avoid. Oddly (not really) enough this is accepted by the Left who tolerate traditional ideas like this but would see it as sexist if done in a white family.

    I'm going to get a little metaphorical here but many of the blankets given to these indigenous groups were infested with disease either unintentionally or on purpose. They were actual blankets back then but now the disease infected gifts are socialism and feminism.


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