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    More on Gillette's Woes

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-p...-idUSKCN1UP1AD
    "even as the world’s No.1 personal goods company took an $8 billion charge on its Gillette shaving business......"
    Article produces excuses for the drop claiming the entire shaving business is suffering; yet the others like Dollar Shave Club (Unilever) seem to be doing fine. Cover-up on their self-inflicted damage which would lose investor confidence. The business isn't worth as much as they initially valued it because the future estimates for sales have declined most likely.

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/...r-sales-slump/
    Gillette tries to get customers back by dropping price 20%


    Bizarre excuses for the numbers- like people growing beards. Many people with beards still shave; in the regions around their beard.

    The fact that Gillette announced a marketing shift so soon after these disappointing numbers (http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow...p-toxic-12795/) suggests they know the actual cause.

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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    Too late.
    I am surprised this company (including P&G) is still around. Imagine it the other way around - you would have the company bankrupt in a few weeks.

    Wammings would be all over the streets protesting. CEO after CEO would be fired. Good for the women though - men need to do the same.

    Gillette - the best a soy boy can get.

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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Too late.
    I am surprised this company (including P&G) is still around. Imagine it the other way around - you would have the company bankrupt in a few weeks.

    Wammings would be all over the streets protesting. CEO after CEO would be fired. Good for the women though - men need to do the same.

    Gillette - the best a soy boy can get.
    Men should never do the same thing as women, we're looking at perpetual warfare on all fronts of human existence!

    The most disgusting thing I can think of is when men do feminine things like acting, thinking, behaving, dressing, shaking with grip-less hands, and all the other wacky shit the cultural terrorists perform!

    In my world, men would look like Paul Bunyan and women wouldn't weigh more than him!
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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    Gillete should start a campaing on "Who likes a hairy woman?"
    Wonder how far that would get them?
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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    Perhaps Gillette should buy ads during NFL games. Both seem to have the same marketing plan.../sarc

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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    In case no one posted it in the earlier thread, here's a link that shows P&G's brands: https://us.pg.com/brands/

    Don't forget to check the "Our Impact" link at the top of the page. That should clear away any doubts for the fence-sitters.

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    I've been seeing gillette razors on sale everywhere, even at the checkout line in grocery stores. I just smile to myself, and mentally give them a "fuck you" as I am checking out. I will never give them another dime again. I wouldn't use their products if they were free.

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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    Gillette commercial for men: Shame on you! You need to change!
    Gillette commercial for women: You just keep doing you! Grow a beard if you want, or go hairless!

    This is the sign of the times. When speaking of men, we need to speak of their deficits. When speaking of women, we have to celebrate every menstruation, every tattoo, and every bad whimsical decision. We say women are children, but that's not fair to children. Children are not adults yet, but women are. They are just held to a shamefully lower standard.
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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    LOL - "We are making smart adjustments across the line-up to restore a historical model and proven strategy"
    Smart Adjustments my ass - nothing says "We screwed up and we're sorry" quite like a whopping 20% discount. How about sticking to the 'proven strategy' of STFU and stick to selling your products? But alas, the damage is done and your spin is too little too late. No more Jillette products for me.....
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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    Quote Originally Posted by kru-kut View Post
    In case no one posted it in the earlier thread, here's a link that shows P&G's brands: https://us.pg.com/brands/

    Don't forget to check the "Our Impact" link at the top of the page. That should clear away any doubts for the fence-sitters.
    Wow, you're right. Yuk. Also, the pictures were largely of women and children, and none of the few men shown were European. Well, one of the gay couple might be, not sure.

    Oh, there was one small image of a European male, a UK couple, where the text said:

    In the U.K., 70% of women still do all the household chores.
    So he is shown in a denigrating light. Gee, thanks.

    70 percent. But are these women complaining for change or is P&G being a busybody and implying a problem to be fixed? For the women who do complain, it strikes me funny that women designate themselves to be the administrator of chores. So, they take supervisory ownership of chores instead of choosing not to. Kinda sending mixed signals there, huh ladies? What they are saying is that they want men to do chores in the same way women do them. I call that being in charge of chores. That is a choice women make. There are other solutions than to shame someone into doing things your way. For instance, there's that old saying: if you want to change other people, change yourself first. Stop being in charge of chores and address your compulsion to control others. P&G knows there is money in pandering to women. Except not at the expense of men.
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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    What I don't get is how they can't seem to realize that these ridiculously adolescent agendas are only widening the divide between men and women in everyday life, by making the former more and more resentful of the latter. So, could someone explain to me how, in the long term, this is going to benefit women? Or am I missing some other really obvious point, like it's an effort to openly discriminate against men and make it part of normal American culture, the same way blacks were openly discriminated against by whites and that was part of normal American culture until relatively recently.

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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    They want us to live on the plantation and expect us to be happy with no life of our own. Dividing the sex's is OK if the women come out ahead, and tough shit if men don't like it. How's that working out for you ladies?
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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    Quote Originally Posted by kru-kut View Post
    What I don't get is how they can't seem to realize that these ridiculously adolescent agendas are only widening the divide between men and women in everyday life, by making the former more and more resentful of the latter. So, could someone explain to me how, in the long term, this is going to benefit women? Or am I missing some other really obvious point, like it's an effort to openly discriminate against men and make it part of normal American culture, the same way blacks were openly discriminated against by whites and that was part of normal American culture until relatively recently.
    Honestly the more men and women are pushed apart, the better it is to us.

    At some point MGTOW will become mainstream and society will have to deal with that, less hassle and more power to us.

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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    Men should never do the same thing as women, we're looking at perpetual warfare on all fronts of human existence!

    The most disgusting thing I can think of is when men do feminine things like acting, thinking, behaving, dressing, shaking with grip-less hands, and all the other wacky shit the cultural terrorists perform!
    Unfortunately it is too late - you either find yourself an identity and politicise said identity or else you are fucked. Women have been waging war on men since the birth of the human race. Not only human, but in the animal kingdom too.

    I don't mean becoming some weak pathetic liberal as you suggest. I mean, employing whatever tools necessary to get your self ahead - even at the expense of women if so be it.

    It is a shame - but no one can be a real man - it is a fantasy; a real man has to be given his freedom. He cannot just fight and fight a losing battle - that is not manly but just stupid.

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    Gillette's crash and burn has been spectacular. Just think about what is being said in every boardroom in every business. Get woke go broke, yep Gillette proved it is a real thing. P&G is going to have to sell off the brand to stay afloat.
    The NFL has been a slow downward spiral. Other small companies have crashed and burned, Gillette is big time. Noticed by every business.

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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    I recently read where some woman was advising women that they should ditch the toxic masculinity label as going too far, implying it will work against them.

    Gee, I wonder what she saw?


    Hey, just saw this comment online:

    Dear Majority of our Customer Base,
    You are pieces of shit and so were your fathers.
    With kindest regards,
    Gillette – Proctor and Gamble

    PS – Buy our products!
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    Gillette gave ear to a woman, a feminist women, and look what happened! That's the important lesson to be learned here! A lesson I/we already know!
    Adopting another man's wife and family as your own is an abomination unto eternity. Don't be a Mumford O'Crowley, draw the line!

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    Re: More on Gillette's Woes

    Quote Originally Posted by kru-kut View Post
    What I don't get is how they can't seem to realize that these ridiculously adolescent agendas are only widening the divide between men and women in everyday life, by making the former more and more resentful of the latter. So, could someone explain to me how, in the long term, this is going to benefit women? Or am I missing some other really obvious point, like it's an effort to openly discriminate against men and make it part of normal American culture, the same way blacks were openly discriminated against by whites and that was part of normal American culture until relatively recently.
    I think the point you might be missing is that they just don't care about the male / female divide or benefitting women except where they can take advantage of it. This is a multinational company whose sole purpose is to make money.

    If they even considered it at all, I think maybe they thought: "What does it matter if we insult a few guys? We all know that women do most of the shopping so men's views are pretty meaningless, the wives and partners will still buy our products for their men!"

    Well they got that one wrong didn't they. The parent company is called Procter & Gamble, I guess this gamble didn't pay off!

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    I guess the point I was driving at is that if this keeps up, men are going to have nothing to do with women, even in the tiniest, most mundane ways. What women don't realize is that they do need men around. They will always need men around. A society can not survive without men, and if nothing else, women are all about the "social construct." So, pushing away men the way they've been doing may have some short-term positive "feelies" for them, but further down the road (and by that I mean a generation or two), nothing good is going to come of this. Destabilized societies simply do not last. In essence we're witnessing the female sex isolating itself and destroying its long-term prospects for health and happiness, if not outright survival, by creating resentment and even hatred in the opposite sex.

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    The reason why the gynocracy keeps pushing a divide is because the gynocracy has bought into the narrative that men = evil and men are the root that is all unjust in the world. Thus, to make up for the sins of the past and bring balanced parity the gynocracy believes that men must be subjected like women were in the past to bring order from the world of chaos.

    Except...the gynocracy missed the fact that women in most ancient societies were not subjected more than men. For every woman that was a slave in ancient times three times as many men were slaves. For warfare in the ancient and modern world most of the combat deaths were from men. Even when an invading army captured a town most of the males that looked old enough were made prisoners, executed or turned into slaves. The women on the other hand were often turned into slaves or new wives part of the new tribe.

    The narrative that men are evil and that women never had freedom is very prevalent driver of trying to punish men in the modern era. It is purely vengeance guided upon false narratives when in reality men built up civilization and warfare that men engage in is to either preserve civilization or gain more resources to keep building civilization.

    If men were truly evil we would all be living in huts and waging constant warfare.

    The truth is that all men are inherently good but they have a choice to do evil, but they more often choose good. And if you view it from the other view that men are inherently evil they as men are apparently as a majority choosing to be good over evil in overwhelming numbers.

    Concepts like bravery, stoicism, honor, justice are the drivers of men's motivations, dreams, triumphs and failures. That doesn't sound evil to me. That sounds like men care about the world they live in and those around them.

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