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    Getting Harder to Home School

    As my profile says, I am AWM. I have kids that I home school. I do this to avoid the indoctrination centers that our public school system has become.

    This year, home schooling is under attack in a bunch of states across the US. It is already illegal in Germany if I recall, and they are trying to make it that way here in the US as well. Iowa for example, is trying to pass legislation that mandates home visits to home school families to make sure your kids are "safe". They are also mandating curricula that will force the feminist agenda into your academic plan.

    I know this one is likely to be controversial even here, but mandatory vaccination is being pushed hard as well. For me personally, there are more than a couple vaccines that are problematic like the Gardasil one. Also, a study just came out showing that one of the variants of the DTaP vaccine actually ends up predisposing you to Pertussis and the change seems to be permanent.

    Anyway, I hope to avoid a debate about either of these two topics directly. They are not in fact the point I am trying to make. They are merely supporting arguments from topics I am currently dealing with.

    As someone who awoke while married, I can tell you that truly one of the only remaining reasons a man has to get married is for the joy that comes from having kids. I don't expect people without kids to understand this. I know I didn't until I had them. Yet the biological urge is strong and I still see many young MGTOW prospects wondering about this.

    Here is the point. If you have kids in today's world, you don't own them anymore, if in fact you ever did. I am here as a father that is in this right now. The heavy hand of the state is intruding into families like never before. Home schooling used to be a way to avoid the indoctrination. It is getting less so every year, and the masses of the public voting how they are told will eventually make sure there is no escape what so ever.

    Why am I posting this on a MGTOW forum? To tell you guys that still ask about fulfilling your biological imperative that even that isn't enough of a reason in today's world. Raising kids can be a real joy. Watching as the state continues to intrude on what you think is "right" is just the opposite.

    This is just one more reason to go MGTOW and skip the whole problem. Don't even think about trapping another soul in this mess. Yes it sucks, but it is also where we are at. Take care of yourself, and enjoy the decline.

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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    As my profile says, I am AWM. I have kids that I home school...................... Why am I posting this on a MGTOW forum?
    I think it's relevant information for even child-free MGTOW, or just for people who are of a more right-wing or libertarian bent, who want as little government intrusion as possible. Coming into your home and ensuring your kids are "SAFE" and that your program is "INCLUSIVE"... LOLOLOLOL. Yes, how else are the social constructionists going to get at the little mind of those lucky few who are home schooled. These children represent a massive threat. They will NOT be indoctrinated with the Rainbow Flag Agenda invented by the Marxist social constructionists.

    This is so painfully obvious to anyone who is remotely Red Pilled. They want to say that if you are educating CHILDREN (forget the fact that they are YOUR children) then you are assuming a state-sponsored role and must abide by state legislation. Once they establish THAT, they can probably haul you out of your home for "failing to provide the necessities of inclusion" or "reasonable access to safe space" and take your kids away and hand them off to foster parents. (And we've all heard the horror stores that come from homes full of children whom foster parents use as an income source...)

    I think this topic goes hand in hand with Red Pill and MGTOW philosophies, and appreciate you bringing it to light.

    Remember: When you disagree with a Neo-Liberal, that makes them UNSAFE (this implies you're a PHYSICAL danger to them justifying any reaction no matter how extreme).
    Remember: When you disagree with a Neo-Liberal, that causes their blood pressure to rise. High blood pressure has health risks. As such, this is a physical assault.

    Be very wary of Neo-Liberals throwing around the words "safe" and "unsafe" and "assault".
    More often or not, it's their attempt to legislate the silencing of any detractors or political opponents.
    When these "safety" issues become legislated, they have the full weight of the law behind them.
    The "law" is then enforced (blindly) by the police who will haul you away for your "hate crimes".
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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    I don't have kids, but hearing stories like yours make me even happier that I took another path in life. I've seen some of the crap that my nephew is forced to regurgitate, it's pretty sickening. Luckily he's a very intelligent guy and can see through it. I worry about what will happen when he gets to Uni though, even though I'm sure he'll end up in STEM.

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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    I don't have or want kids, but I saw on some RV forums how great it is to home school if you're an FL resident. Check it out? Not that hard to re-domicile. (Lots of domicile advice on RV forums as well, home schooling is common in the community.)

    /Tired

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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    I have noticed a trend where a lot of home school advocates end up buying a RV and moving from one place or another so they can home school their kids as they see fit while being able to travel around for the best possible work and job opportunities.

    The downside is that kids have a harder time creating friendships and learning about societal cues when they grow older. The upside obviously is that they avoided societal brainwashing in current education systems.

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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    This is just one more reason to go MGTOW and skip the whole problem. Don't even think about trapping another soul in this mess. Yes it sucks, but it is also where we are at. Take care of yourself, and enjoy the decline.
    You have nailed the main reason I will never have children: Why would I ever inflict this world and society upon an innocent life?

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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    I wish you power people that home school !!! You are saving them for the two wordly hells . The other being an addiction .

    When you let your child to state school its like you voluntarily send them to prison . Because exactly the same rules apply .

    Children run the show and not the ones you would want them to .

    Join us or watch your back . Join us and still watch your back .

    You dont need even indoctrination that goes on there . This is just a small thing compared what looming possibility of bullying does to your psyche .

    They could root out it in one week . But they never do because it plays right in their agenda , the children will be silent like mice and never question things cause they have bigger issues to worry about .

    Precisely like adults at work
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    Bullying can be very hard on some children. I was a small, weak, child and was unable to fight back against the bullies. It is traumatic to spend much of your time in fear of being hurt or humiliated. I think Alik is right, the bullying is part of the intentional conditioning process, just like have arbitrary set lengths of classes, punctuated by an alarm bell. It's all a mechanism to force mindless obedience and to squash the individual.

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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Quote Originally Posted by ABigSiameseCat View Post
    Bullying can be very hard on some children. I was a small, weak, child and was unable to fight back against the bullies. It is traumatic to spend much of your time in fear of being hurt or humiliated. I think Alik is right, the bullying is part of the intentional conditioning process, just like have arbitrary set lengths of classes, punctuated by an alarm bell. It's all a mechanism to force mindless obedience and to squash the individual.
    For you to better understand what bullying is ...its when you put someones head into the toilet legs up and let everyone that wants to kick that person . But then i would have to stop them cause they just wouldnt . Like vultures .

    That is bullying . And it feels like that inside also . And it lasts a lifetime sometimes a very short one .

    Cause even the cool kids that were not even targets once couldnt handle the looming possibility . And would take the decision to off it .

    You cant be normal after 12 years of this . You cant be normal .

    And it doesnt matter where you live something like that is happening . Add early drugs to that .

    Homeschooling is probably the most important thing for a happy life of a kid . Cause school kids aint happy because they cant be .
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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    I got my share of bullies, but at least I wasn't the one poor slob they always picked on most. What a awful spot to be in.

    One a my "friends" lives down the street. He's an alright neighbor, and has more or less tried to make up for being a jerk all those years ago. I'm fine with him. But the rest of e'm, they can kiss my ass. I wouldn't piss on e'm it they was on fire. What annoyed me the most was finding out later they did it cause they wasn't happy with their own life. I wasn't always real happy either, but I never took it out on anyone else.

    A friend home schooled two kids. I guess their good people, but they are still at home long after they should of left, and do not appear to have any idea how to make it in the real world. Is this a thing among the home schooled?
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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I got my share of bullies, but at least I wasn't the one poor slob they always picked on most. What a awful spot to be in.

    One a my "friends" lives down the street. He's an alright neighbor, and has more or less tried to make up for being a jerk all those years ago. I'm fine with him. But the rest of e'm, they can kiss my ass. I wouldn't piss on e'm it they was on fire. What annoyed me the most was finding out later they did it cause they wasn't happy with their own life. I wasn't always real happy either, but I never took it out on anyone else.

    A friend home schooled two kids. I guess their good people, but they are still at home long after they should of left, and do not appear to have any idea how to make it in the real world. Is this a thing among the home schooled?
    That is a real world for you . It doesnt care about your ideas . Nobody would stay at home if they could . It just doesnt add up .

    Purchasing power doesnt seem to care about the type of your schooling .
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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    I was bullied as a kid. Now I'm a mean tough sonofabitch. Let's just consider it part of my Red Pill training.
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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Ah, schooling, another fucked up system in a fucked up world. Read anything from John Taylor Gatto on the topic, escpecially The Underground History of American Education and Dumbing Us Down.

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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I got my share of bullies, but at least I wasn't the one poor slob they always picked on most. What a awful spot to be in.

    One a my "friends" lives down the street. He's an alright neighbor, and has more or less tried to make up for being a jerk all those years ago. I'm fine with him. But the rest of e'm, they can kiss my ass. I wouldn't piss on e'm it they was on fire. What annoyed me the most was finding out later they did it cause they wasn't happy with their own life. I wasn't always real happy either, but I never took it out on anyone else.

    A friend home schooled two kids. I guess their good people, but they are still at home long after they should of left, and do not appear to have any idea how to make it in the real world. Is this a thing among the home schooled?
    Like everything, there is good and bad. I was on a home school chat a long time ago with some young adult who was damn near illiterate. He was trying to figure out why his parents fucked him over like they did. He definitely would have been better off in public school.

    It's for reasons like this that I wouldn't mind a little oversight like reporting annual test results. The caveat however is that the test would be on, as they used to say, the three Rs. These days though, they are pushing into the home and "education" no longer has anything to do with the fundamentals and everything to do with indoctrination.

    The point again is Do Not Have Kids. There is no good way to navigate this mess.

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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    Like everything, there is good and bad. I was on a home school chat a long time ago with some young adult who was damn near illiterate. He was trying to figure out why his parents fucked him over like they did. He definitely would have been better off in public school.

    It's for reasons like this that I wouldn't mind a little oversight like reporting annual test results. The caveat however is that the test would be on, as they used to say, the three Rs. These days though, they are pushing into the home and "education" no longer has anything to do with the fundamentals and everything to do with indoctrination.

    The point again is Do Not Have Kids. There is no good way to navigate this mess.
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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    I did not like my school days, and you'll never hear me saying I'd like to go back. But there's a lot to learn in school besides book learning. I shudder to think how I'd a turned out if home schooled. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Course I've not known that many of the home schooled. Hopefully most are doing better.

    As far as being exposed to bad influences, school was nothing compared to community college, the military, and the blue collar workforce. Though I don't like to lie, cheat or steal, the United States Army taught me everything I need to know.
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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I did not like my school days, and you'll never hear me saying I'd like to go back. But there's a lot to learn in school besides book learning. I shudder to think how I'd a turned out if home schooled. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Course I've not known that many of the home schooled. Hopefully most are doing better.

    As far as being exposed to bad influences, school was nothing compared to community college, the military, and the blue collar workforce. Though I don't like to lie, cheat or steal, the United States Army taught me everything I need to know.
    Yes , damned if you do or dont .

    Home school life will be very sheltered .

    LOL i would say teach your boy or girl to fight aaand then they are good to go to school . Works wonders

    First like 3 grades they are way too young to be anywhere away but a perfect clay for indoctrination . And of course parents have to go to work .
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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    I think the biggest drawback to home schooling is that those who are have a harder time being social to others

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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    I think the biggest drawback to home schooling is that those who are have a harder time being social to others
    Yes, at first sight yes but nobody is social to others anymore . Everybody has a device to look down to when social situation occurs .

    The social part in the city is all bullshit , you dont need others , you pay them to meet your needs or they pay you .

    The biggest worst part of the city is the other people .

    I personally would love to not be social to them even more than i am now like 90% .
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    Re: Getting Harder to Home School

    Mine did one year in public school. That was enough to see that the modern version of socialization was shit. The kids weren't allowed to talk in the halls, at lunch or in art class. They could whisper at lunch, but if a teacher could hear them, they were considered too loud. They only got 15 minutes to eat and 15 minutes of recess. If they needed more time to eat, then they could sacrifice recess. The 15 minutes if it isn't obvious also included any transit time like standing in the lunch line or getting out to the playground and back. I got more time to eat in basic training.

    Not only was throwing snow balls forbidden, even picking up loose unpacked snow was not allowed because a student "might" make a snow ball.

    Also, in class, if any two kids got too close to their neighbor (close as in friendly) they would rearrange the seating to put an end to it. This is no joke. This is the state of modern childhood "education".

    Modern school socialization is simply preparation for prison.

    Modern home schooling has lots of co-op organizations for socialization. They are simply very large play dates so kids can have a bit of run wild time with other kids. It's better than nothing and damn sure better than public school.

    The options today really are shitty and shittier. You get to pick one.


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