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    Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    I had to take a low wage job since it is the only thing that fits with some college classes I'm taking. The young co-workers may be a hint at what is coming.

    Two managers, both women. One is unable to confront employees and discipline them, yet she is going to major in business management. Strangely enough, she has never said two words to me. The other scares everyone and customers with constantly being pissed off.

    One 'manager' there is a younger guy who thinks sex is a Big Deal. He doesn't do much.

    A couple girls there are ugly lesbians. One of them has more tattoos than a sailor.

    One friendly kid talked me about his girlfriend. She has no idea what she wants to do in life, but she knows she wants to move to New York. After taking a few years of college, she is already over forty grand in debt. Her dream is to be an 'Entertainment News Anchor'. She is now talking to him about the idea of having children. I told him not to put a ring on her.

    One young friendly 18 year old male got into a discussion about the Matrix with me. I asked him if given the choice, would he have Red Pill or Blue Pill. Without a doubt, he said he would choose the Blue Pill. Sure enough, any Red Pill things I say do not seem to take hold with him.

    There are a couple of gammas there who seem to want girlfriends. By gammas, I mean when you look at them you will see why women won't want them. It's somewhat sad, and I can sense a bitterness behind their friendliness.

    One woman in her thirties brags that she and her husband sleep in separate bedrooms. This is because he snores.

    There is a couple of hot 18 year old girls there. One rarely works there. The other has a boyfriend, and they just got a dog (you know what that means). [This girl has also made comments about my butt.] The other one may be lying to me telling me she is 18 (when she may actually be 17). She certainly wanted me to know that she was 18.

    One girl just turned 17. Her Boyfriend also works there but he is 22. Not a smart guy.

    There's many more people than I'm mentioning.

    Anyway, after being there a while, questions began to come up about me. It is coming from the women. Oh noes, that Macavity is single. I keep getting asked my age by the young women. They gasp when I tell them that I am 34. "No way!" hahahaha. I look way younger than I should.

    Rumors began swirling that I was gay. I inquired if I was doing anything 'flaming' like. Nope. But, you see, I 'must' be gay. WTF? How come I have never been asked what type of girls I want or what my standards are? Why assume I'm gay? One of the hot 18 year olds grilled me about my life story and very curious about my future plans. Maybe she is curious that I never mentioned a woman in my future???

    The Gammas have picked up that the girls like me and are envious. I've tried explaining to them that these women are shitty, and that they never truly like you, that your happiness with video games is closer to true happiness than you'll ever find with a woman, but they do not hear it.

    All they know is that I go to school which is why I work there. I've also told them I would like to travel and maybe live overseas. It's like they see me as some great anomaly in their Matrix and trying to figure me out.

    Years ago, I might have been flattered that some women find me attractive. Today, I feel very lonely. No one is interested in my world. They are only interested in their world and how I would fit into their world.

    Why is it that single woman is considered to have high standards, to be strong by not needing a man, yet a single man is automatically labeled gay and whispered about behind his back?

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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    All I know is, if your experience is at all representative of living in the US, then South Florida is in its own separate category. Must be the large percentage of Hispanics. Aside from one person (who no longer works here), none of my coworkers have asked me if I have a girlfriend or not, nor have any of the females been flirty to me. I've been asked about my schooling, but no one's tried to lecture me about settling down or anything like that. As for the question you raise, I wish I could answer it, but I don't know if there is any deep reason as to why men are shamed for being single. It's likely just because society doesn't like men, and that's all there is to it. People bend over backwards to praise and justify a woman's actions, but men are only tolerated if they're good workhorses with a loving family.
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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    I went through this crap a couple of years ago too...I feel your pain, bro...

    I was hearing it from guys and gals that were in the 30-50 year old age group...Some people just never leave high school...

    My "mentor", that had actually met my GF at the time, actually spoke up for me once as I was letting the water run off the ducks back...

    The plant manager was joking around about how he doubted I knew anything about women. My mentor said, "I don't know...His girlfriend is pretty hot..."

    That plant manager was a straight up douche nozzle, mangina-supreme...You could tell he was once quite an alpha, and apparently he still thought he was one...I planted some seeds in that fuckers head before I quit...

    I had a trainee for about 6 months before I quit, and I planted seeds in his head as well...But, he actually enjoyed it as he would always tell me that I needed to write a book and ask for more red-pills...I think I saw him scooting around on a brand new Street Glide a couple of times-no doubt enjoying life...

    Macavity, you need to be careful about talking personal business with co-workers...Most of them just want to make you look bad because that's the easiest way for them to look GOOD...Stay away from the gossipy ones if you can. But, if you can't, tell them only things about yourself that paints you in a good light...

    Make it hard for them to talk shit about you.

    $10 says those Omega types would sell you out for a sniff of post-wall twat...

    Just laugh at em all if they give you shit. You're the one using that job as a stepping stone anyways. For some of them, that's the closest thing to work they will even know...Some probably don't even know the difference between having a job and being a temp...

    They matter not...Chin up...You got a better plan than most of them...The rest are just scared of what they don't understand...Don't play into it...

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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    They feel so shitty about themselves and so entitled to male attention that they literally wish you were gay because it would justify (not that you have to justify ANYTHING to them) why you don't follow behind them whimpering begging and prostrating yourself at the alter of clit and tit. They all think they are the perfect woman. You can't reject or ignore the perfect woman. You have to be gay. Their ego depends on it. They don't process the fact that men might not want their particular fishpocket. They jump right to thinking you don't like fishpocket at all. It hurts their strong empowered independent feelz to be rejected. Laugh at them in secret, continue ignoring them in public. I'm STILL wiping snot off my shoulder from bitches crying 'I'm invisible to him!" Let them talk, its the only thing they are good for.

    Single women have invented this whole lie that they don't need men but in reality they are miserable. They get together and have these ladies nights and all they do is bitch about where all the good men are. Being a poof gets me an invitation to such gatherings that I call Cunt-munion. They pass the wine and wheat thins and listen to each others stories of the shitty men that THEY picked to have relationships did them wrong and how they got revenge/ruined his life/stuck him with child support. If they see you with another woman they will die a little inside which is quite hilarious. It really doesn't matter what they think though.

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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    Quote Originally Posted by Macavity View Post
    Why is it that single woman is considered to have high standards, to be strong by not needing a man, yet a single man is automatically labeled gay and whispered about behind his back?
    Well, I believe it's because of the stereotype that a (heterosexual) man's sexuality is always made obvious by the man, somehow. It's put on display by the man, in the things that he says, the signals he makes to other people in conversation. Stuff like that. And everybody is attuned to those cues. Therefore, guess who they will say are the men who avoid giving all such cues? Gay men, of course. Er, rather, closet gays, I suppose. Perhaps you come across to them as cue-less. So, to them, you gotta be gay.

    I have some experience with these situations because it is my personal habit to deny all casual conversations of any sexual cues from me, on the idea that the mentally healthy people don't care and the mentally unhealthy people can just eat sh*t. You'd think I'm therefore asking for trouble from these unhealthy people but the alternative is to feed them, and I refuse to do that because managing the substandard people using details of my own life is unacceptable to me. Let them feed on each other, if they must.

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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    Quote Originally Posted by Macavity View Post
    Today, I feel very lonely. No one is interested in my world.
    Well, in a sense that shouldn't be expedcted of co-workers. They are there to do their job, you are there to do yours. You have friends for that. If you feel the need to talk about something you can PM me and ask for my skype. That won't cure your wounds though. Whether people think you are gay, weird or totally awesome. Humans rarely have an event in which they can fully relate to one another. Loneliness is something we all have to deal with. A MGTOW existence can be very lonely, and a marriage can be even more so..

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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    Most co-workers are fucking idiots you should ignore.

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    Whats wrong with being gay in USA ? The whole Russia thinks that you are all gay , do you care ?
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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    This is easy.
    Just say you wish you were gay.
    You'll save money on clothes if you find a guy your size and you'll have a partner that buys stuff for you for once!

    Come on!
    You don't really care what women think*, do you?

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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    Pfft, don't let if phase you. I have been asked if I'm gay since I approached 30 unmarried. It never got to me, when I asked if I am married I just say, "Nope, I'm too smart.", end the conversation on that and go about my business leaving the person with a shocked look on their face.

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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    Quote Originally Posted by Cap285 View Post
    Most co-workers are fucking idiots you should ignore.
    ^QFT

    And I would like to add "don't shit where you eat".

    I would suggest that when asked about your personal life again at work, or when someone comments on your status, that you just respond with "I prefer to keep my job and personal life separated".
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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    When I was in my 30s and early 40s , the women would always start rumors that I was gay. Z I simply told them that a smart man would be gay instead of putting up,with woman's shit. I also had comment s of, well, you just don't meet the right women. I guess that is correct, because I have meet a good woman , 8000 miles from the USA.

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    Co-workers are not privy to my personal details. People have their own personal rules, but I am not at work to share my life story, or to seek validation, or approval.

    The inquiries can be highly invasive if they push, and I've used that on occasion to report my 'discomfort' at being pressed for personal details on company time. It cuts down on people calling or dropping by to chit chat about BS (water cooler chit chat/small talk - or time wasting as I describe it when and if others complain about me and I fire back putting my accusers on the defensive.)

    I'll then confide somewhat in the rep and or manager about my perosnal life and that I consider my personal life separate. I'll even ask them...do I not separate my work and personal life and maintain a high stress and importance on professionalism? They can't complain and have little in the way they can say or do, unless they just wish to be shitty, in which case, they'll see me escalate again (a rarity).

    The lunches, the ball game invitations, the cake parties, the chip in this gift or that present for birthdays - I am happy enough not having to waste my time on these things (though I will contribute a few bucks if it is a hospitalization/injury/death if I have cash on me). Spending personal time with co workers might be considered part of being a 'good employee', but I make sure I don't get caught in that trap.

    As a contractor, I'm usually not 'regular company' and am excluded form some things as a matter of necessity due to the distinction, so I carry it one step further and keep my personal time for myself instead of buckling to the idea I must share my personal time in order to 'be a good employee'.

    Don't let these assholes burn you out. Don't let their opinions, or their bullshit matter. It the harassment continues, report it and push some buttons if necessary, and you can ride the wave of possible backlash. Saying, find another job, in this economy isn't something I'll do, as they are scarce, but these people do not matter. Their opinions are meaningless.
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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    good god, please stop talking to people. now you have to deal with what you said. maybe you don't understand the gang mentality of many people. you have identified yourself as part of some unknown rival gang. at least you already know the truth of men and women's behavior, so best of luck, amigo.
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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    I endured several years of such rumours while I was teaching. I rarely spoke about my private life which, frankly, was none of their business. However, I made certain enemies in the department and, so, I suspect they were the ones who started those stories about me. Their hope was that this would undermine my reputation to the point that I'd have to be fired.

    In that context, anything I did--or didn't do--only confirmed what was suspected about me. If I didn't talk about myself, I had something to hide. Once I mentioned I went out on a date and our secretary at the time responded with: "A date? With a woman?" Obviously, I said that to throw people off the scent, didn't I?

    Yet, those were the same pea-brains who thought I was being a snob because I didn't attend departmental social functions.....
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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    In general when people start with their gossip and bullshit I just ignore it. If anyone ever asks I just tell them, "Believe what you want, I've got more important shit to do."

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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    Just tell them you prefer the company of gay men to women. After all, gay men are just male versions of women. Only they're better at it.

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    Yeah, the bottom herd people like to try and +1 themselves by putting other people down. Ignore it and ignore them. Same thing with bullies, only difference is that they bully sees himself as stronger and will do things overtly as the herd bottom feeders does it covertly.

    Let them think whatever the fuck they want. At the end of the day they are still on the lowest of the social hiearchy and no rumours will end that.

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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    Quote Originally Posted by Inspector Callahan View Post
    Just tell them you prefer the company of gay men to women. After all, gay men are just male versions of women. Only they're better at it.
    Not in a work environment.

    There, you take the high road and maintain frame. Sarcasm and flippant in your face comments and attitudes may seem like fun, or even be satisfying short term, but those things can create serious work relationship problems.

    By maintaining a bit of detachment and keeping it professional, one keeps control of the situation by keeping control of oneself.

    If the job doesn't matter, let them have it, but if the job matters, let them have it in a way that protects oneself, and hurts the others who are speaking against you..
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    Re: Gay rumors swirling about me at my low wage job

    Quote Originally Posted by Cap285 View Post
    Most co-workers are fucking idiots you should ignore.
    One of my favorite comments about the classic "you must be gay" charge on some Catalog of Female Shaming tactics that I read somewhere on the manosphere was, "unless you're working for a religious company, leaving your sexuality in question is really of no consequence to you."

    While I like that comment, whether gay or straight, your identity IS your identity. So I beg to differ a little on that. IMHO, no shame should be felt in defending one's self in a laid back casual manner. Maintain your composure, don't lose your cool, and most important of all, don't act butt hurt about it in the slightest way (no pun intended). Even if you are.
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    By maintaining a bit of detachment and keeping it professional, one keeps control of the situation by keeping control of oneself.
    Bingo^^^... I was gonna say to be slightly playful about it. But I do like this "keeping it professional" advice even better.
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