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    Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Hi guys,

    I'm very new to this forum. I've had something on my mind for quite a while now and itís bothering me a lot. A few months ago, I had decided to cease all communication with a guy who had been my best friend for 19 years. He doesn't seem to realise that I don't want to have anything to do with him. This is the story.

    During the years that we hung out, I discussed matters pertaining to the wiles of modern women with him based on all of the extensive research that I have gathered from guys like yourselves, extensive reading and a lot of personal observations. Of course, all of this knowledge has helped me in being cautious when interacting with women and prevented me from jumping into relationships easily with them.

    I thought that my former best friend and I were on the same wavelength. Both of us scoffed at friends and acquaintances of ours who had become "pussy whipped" and did not want to interact much with us. He claimed that he would never allow himself to end up like them.

    For quite a while, he kept on telling me a story about an ex (who he had dated for some time before met) who he had met in the city after many years. She had gotten married had a couple of kids and got divorced. She wanted to exchange numbers, but he claimed that he refused.

    In early 2016, I was taking a walk and I saw him sitting with this woman (who looked a bit older than him) sitting in the patio of a restaurant (not a fancy one). He left her, ran up to me and asked me how I was doing. He did not say anything about her and did not introduce me. I asked nothing.

    A couple of months afterwards, we were hanging out and he showed me a pic of the woman on his phone and said that she was his "friend." I asked if that was the woman that I saw him with some time ago at the restaurant. He said that he couldn't remember.

    A couple of months after, I actually met her and she remembered me. However, my friend insisted that he did not remember that occasion. She is about a couple of years older than he is and is divorced and has two children. At one time I had asked him if this was the same one he had met in the city and didn't want to exchange numbers with her? He said that this was someone else. The thing is, what are the odds of meeting your exes in the city with the same situation? Divorced with kids?

    When I had met her, I didn't feel attracted towards her. She was very friendly and I was the one holding the conversation and making her laugh while he sat there sheepishly (the same thing happened anytime we all hung out a few times after that).

    After that first meeting, my best friend and I hung out very rarely over the months (which was unlike him).

    Close to the end of that year, I received a text from a phone identified with my friend's name but not his number. When I texted to find out who was it, the person texted that it was that woman. My friend had lent her his phone because her phone had gone for repairs. I said ok. I was really infuriated though, because why did she dig up in the contacts on his phone, find my number and try to communicate with me? I am not her friend. Also, that is an invasion of privacy for both my friend and I. That person cannot be trusted.

    I had called and spoken to him about how we hang out very little anymore. He boldly told me that things will change now that he is seeing this girl. Now I have dated and I have had other friends who have dated but did not act this way. When I told him about the texts I received from the woman, he said that he will talk to her. Now, if that was my girlfriend, I would have asked her about it and checked the phone, if she confessed and in addition, I saw the texts on the phone, I would have broken up with her instantly. I would not be able to trust her anymore. However, not him. He still continued to be with her.

    A month afterwards, the woman called me to ask me if I could help her son out with his schoolwork. I refused. I told her I was busy. I said to myself: ďWhy didn't she ask my friend?Ē

    From that time onwards, he had become quite close to her children. They even spent a while at his house when on vacation. Also, hanging out times with him became few and far between. I was at the receiving end of a million excuses.

    The straw that broke the camel's back was back in September we had planned about a week in advance to see a movie. On the day that we had to go to see it, he sent me a text that he had to take the woman's daughter out to see a particular festival in a neighbouring town since she had never seen it before. He didnít mention anything about going to see it on another day. I was mad, but I just texted back ok. I consider that as gross disrespect! Suppose I had plans for that particular night and I cancelled them to accommodate him? I never contacted him again. He texted me a few times after that but I never responded. I saw him a couple of times after that and he acted as if we're the best of friends. I was generally non-communicative with him when I saw him. If I could take a hint, why can't he take a hint?

    I still cannot understand why he hooked back up with a woman who rejected him for another guy , had children with that other guy, divorced him and brought back that guy's children for my friend to take care of now, and he is doing so willingly? On top of that, most things concerning them are secretive. However, at one time she told me that he had said that I had told him once that single mothers are looking for a father for their children (this is true, and I had told him this long before he started going around with her again). Why would he tell her about what was said in a guy conversation?

    This entire thing saddens me and I wondered what I did wrong to deserve crappy treatment like this?

    I would really appreciate your discussion. It would help me a lot. Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    I can only hope you learnt something from this experience, that blue pilled men are NOT your friends and that they too, exercise female behaviour (with his lying, telling stories behind your back, setting you up for the fall etc).

    Next time, do them like you would do a woman. Drop them at the sight of something fishy. The same red flags you would never accept from a woman, why did you accept it from him? The moment you knew it was the same woman, if it were me, I would confront him and end it. I don't care how long we've been 'friends'.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    I see this is your first post, forum guidelines require an introduction post in the intro's section where you talk about yourself and what led you to becoming interested in a Red pill life. Your post here may work as a supplement to your introduction, but an intro where you talk about you, not your best friend, would be appreciated.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Sorry to hear about your situation.. It's never easy to lose a friend that we thought we could count on.
    Try to remember, "This is NOT about you". Everything he is doing and has done is about 'him'.
    He does not hold the same values that you hold. Some things come down to principles. He apparently doesn't have many. Also remember, Two things can exist at the same time. i.e. The sun can be out and there can be clouds in the sky. What I mean is, we can still believe in something and NOT have the courage to act on it.
    Your friend can still feel like he is your friend and at the same time go out with women that he has told you have hurt him. It's about choices and compromises we all make. Some of us will not compromise our own well being and potential futures happiness, for anyone else's illusion of the truth, ( We have Principles).. Others will see things only in the "Temporary". How things or situations benefit them now. So they are more willing to compromise their own words, or even believes, to get something they feel is worth it. Even though in there own mind they know its temporary.
    There's no reasoning with weak minded folk.
    You may have a better method of determining what things are worth compromising or not. Your friend may (probably) respects you and your actions more than he does his own.
    It is hard to NOT put our own values or believes on others. Even those we befriend, love or allow in our lives.
    It is futile and hopeless to think other people will or should make the same choices as we do. Your best hope is to
    either accept your friend and ALL his weaknesses, or do a you have mentioned and cut him loose. There is no bad or wrong choice for you. Either way you go, is the right way for you. Keep moving forward and stick to who you are. It's ok to take time and process the changing environment we live in, and process loosing a friend. If or when your friend or others come along and walk beside you in your journey welcome them for how ever long they walk with you. And when they choose another way, Let them! Just remember they will do it because its about them! What You do is ALWAYS about you! There may be others that come into our world, be open to those that may be able to make things about you. Good Luck..
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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    We are seeing plague of best friends doing unbelievable shit to each other .

    But of course at the same time if i felt uncomfortable or it was nobodys business i would say whatever bullshit even to my best friend .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Classic case of hypergamy in effect. Your friend was designated provider beta, thus friendzoned until she no longer had other options. Then once her guy walked (or no longer showed her interest making her walk instead) she reconnected with a lot of baggage in tow.
    Then, icing on the cake, she tried to use his contacts to monkeybranch - to you. Using the contacts on his phone to find prospects. Even going so far as to see if you would tend to her brood. And you rightly would have none of that.

    Nothing much can be done about it. Walking away is the only option, and you did just that. In a couple of years I'm sure your ex-buddy will come knocking with a sobstory of how the divorce courts have him down. Your choice what you do at that point. Sometimes the redpill needs to be forcefed by reality...
    Shame is a womans primary weapon. Watch for it, and call it out wherever you see it. Few women know how to handle a man immune to shame.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    The Thirst is real.
    The typical blue-pill man allows it to consume him, leading to poor decisions and sub-optimal consequences.

    The red-pilled man Goes His Own Way, managing the Thirst as best he can and in ways that work for him.
    A gun-toting, weed-smoking, gray-bearded redneck with a Masters - old and dangerous.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives71 View Post
    I'm very new to this forum.
    Hi ninelives71,

    As you are a new member with 1 post, and before you get to posting more stuff, please go over to the New Member Intros subforum, read the sticky How To Intro, and post an Intro for us there, based on that sticky. We all had to do one. If you continue to post without having made a valid Intro, a Moderator will be contacting you.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Excuse me sir, but please post an intro before posting in the lounge. This is necessary so we filter out gynocracists of all sorts.

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    Sex is a powerful drug, Played right even the most hard core red pill can be trapped back on the plantation. The younger the man the easier it is to trap. The only thing you can do is wait for her to turn the sex off it always happens then he realizes he is trapped and will turn to you and talk about it.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives71 View Post
    However, at one time she told me that he had said that I had told him once that single mothers are looking for a father for their children (this is true, and I had told him this long before he started going around with her again). Why would he tell her about what was said in a guy conversation?
    And why would you be speaking to her at all?

    Your homie is getting his dick sucked. He has priorities, obviously. You are way down on the list. That's how it is.

    A month afterwards, the woman called me to ask me if I could help her son out with his schoolwork.
    Heh. For a woman, the whole point of relationships is gaining access to a useful social network. You see it in romance novels, interestingly. The romantic hero always has behind him a network of other people - usually women - whom might be useful to the heroine. If the heroine is an aspiring actress, the hero will know some producers and directors.

    Life goes on, man. People move on. That's how it is. This woman has divorced one man, she'll divorce another. Just stay clear of the blast zone. Whether you want to be there to pick up the pieces later is down to your history with this dude. For now, there's not much to be done.



    Oh - and do an intro post. Go to the New Member Intros sub, read the "how to into" sticky, read some other intros, and post. We do enforce the rules, and they are rules for good reason.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Ok thanks. Sorry about that. I'll do that very soon.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Thanks. Sorry about that. I'll do that very soon.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Thank you guys so far for your inspiring feedback. I really appreciate it.

    I just posted in the intros.

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives71 View Post

    I still cannot understand why he hooked back up with a woman who rejected him for another guy , had children with that other guy, divorced him and brought back that guy's children for my friend to take care of now, and he is doing so willingly? On top of that, most things concerning them are secretive. However, at one time she told me that he had said that I had told him once that single mothers are looking for a father for their children (this is true, and I had told him this long before he started going around with her again). Why would he tell her about what was said in a guy conversation?

    This entire thing saddens me and I wondered what I did wrong to deserve crappy treatment like this?

    I would really appreciate your discussion. It would help me a lot. Thanks in advance.
    The old "Alpha fux / beta bux".

    Now that nobody wants her , she will go back to the idiot that she knows will put up with her shit. She doesn't care about your friend. She now needs money to take care of her kids and he is stupid enough to believe she cares about him. I have had it done to me both sides.

    Women pretend to care about me then drop off the earth when they meet asshole Chad. Everyone stands by her and makes excuses for her shitty behavior. Chad dumps her , she calls him an asshole & swears to never talk to him again, and tries to get back with me & others she abandoned while still "just talking" to asshole Chad.

    My so called male friends get pissy at me when I had a girlfriend & give me that "bros before hoes" shit. I always made time for everyone even if it meant giving up something I wanted to do. But they turn around & get girlfriends & its like they never existed or its "my girl this" & "my girl that". I cut all ties. Let them chase the pussy. When that pussy fucks you over, dont you dare come whining to me. I know it hurts a lot to lose a friend after many years but look at it this way. The sun will rise tomorrow with or without them and they sure as hell didn't consider your feelings. Your friend might be "my girl this" & "my girl that" & put her on a pedestal but she don't care about him. He is at best the 3rd on her " care" list depending on how many kids she has. She will use him for money, an emotional tampon, etc. I promise they will fight about the kids & money. She will claim poverty while getting food stamps, welfare, child support , and more for each kid. I actually know a girl that makes more on welfare & child support than I do working but yet she claims she is always broke. LOL.

    The list goes like this.......

    1.Her children
    2.Her family
    3.Her friend
    4. Baby daddy Chad(Yes he is higher than you since he is the father of her kids).
    5.You(5th place is being nice!)

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    The old "Alpha fux / beta bux".

    Now that nobody wants her , she will go back to the idiot that she knows will put up with her shit. She doesn't care about your friend. She now needs money to take care of her kids and he is stupid enough to believe she cares about him. I have had it done to me both sides.

    Women pretend to care about me then drop off the earth when they meet asshole Chad. Everyone stands by her and makes excuses for her shitty behavior. Chad dumps her , she calls him an asshole & swears to never talk to him again, and tries to get back with me & others she abandoned while still "just talking" to asshole Chad.

    My so called male friends get pissy at me when I had a girlfriend & give me that "bros before hoes" shit. I always made time for everyone even if it meant giving up something I wanted to do. But they turn around & get girlfriends & its like they never existed or its "my girl this" & "my girl that". I cut all ties. Let them chase the pussy. When that pussy fucks you over, dont you dare come whining to me. I know it hurts a lot to lose a friend after many years but look at it this way. The sun will rise tomorrow with or without them and they sure as hell didn't consider your feelings. Your friend might be "my girl this" & "my girl that" & put her on a pedestal but she don't care about him. He is at best the 3rd on her " care" list depending on how many kids she has. She will use him for money, an emotional tampon, etc. I promise they will fight about the kids & money. She will claim poverty while getting food stamps, welfare, child support , and more for each kid. I actually know a girl that makes more on welfare & child support than I do working but yet she claims she is always broke. LOL.

    The list goes like this.......

    1.Her children
    2.Her family
    3.Her friend
    4. Baby daddy Chad(Yes he is higher than you since he is the father of her kids).
    5.You(5th place is being nice!)
    You dont understand , when you do not work money runs like water , you are literally spending all day .

    And you , what you ? You work all the time

    And at least you have a job

    And dont forget - she` a mom !
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    The worst part of the beta bux paradigm is that single moms are given so much support from .gov so they don't really have an incentive to marry the beta bux. Unless the beta bux has loads of money it simply will be a period where the single mom will suck him dry as long as he tolerates it.

    So, if you are a beta bux where you can not have children or marry this woman why are you giving money over to her? Fortunately in an ironic twist not having children with a single mom is a blessing in such a sad situation. But most men do not understand this basic point.

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    There seems to be no hope for your friend. Move on.





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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Quote Originally Posted by 743 Roadmaster View Post
    Sex is a powerful drug, Played right even the most hard core red pill can be trapped back on the plantation. The younger the man the easier it is to trap. The only thing you can do is wait for her to turn the sex off it always happens then he realizes he is trapped and will turn to you and talk about it.
    When you master control over that, it becomes the women that are the ones without the control...
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    Re: Best friend whipped by a divorced single mom.

    Yeah, a woman can be getting child support for all five kids, and even spousal support, NONE of it counts as income and she qualifies for FULL WELFARE. Single mommies are renting nice places and driving around cars on leases. They should be eating canned food and taking the fucking bus if they don't work.

    In Canada, many people who do no work at all live better than people who hump multiple minimum wage shifts just to survive. It's disgusting. And now, they hand the keys to new townhomes to homeless refugees and put them immediately on welfare. This while there are unemployed men and women from our (disgraced?) energy sector. And they wonder why some people are right pissed off about immigration policy. lol.

    Welfare for lazy uneducated people or people who are "too sick" to work (experts at being professionally sick) just breeds more lazy, uneducated welfare recipients.

    Single mommies who live on handouts don't teach their children the value of hard work. They can't. It's not a value they themselves have.

    If you knew how many women walking around in the malls and gorging themselves in food courts were "too sick to work" you'd go into a rage. Sometimes these people show up in vegas or in vacation resorts and they're drinking and dancing and windsurfing.... lol... too sick to work my ass.
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