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    France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/fr...stitution-law/

    As of now, prostitution is technically legal in France. But under a new law that just passed the Senate, looking sexy in public is not.

    The French law criminalizes prostitution—specifically, the ‘passive solicitation’ of prostitution, which means, according to the UK’s Mirror, it can be used to arrest women for wearing skimpy outfits.
    "Our association has reacted very angrily to the introduction of passive soliciting, and denounced it," Fatima Benomar from the French feminist group les efFRONTé-e-s told the Daily Dot via email on Wednesday, "Prostitution is a phenomenon that affects all women. We are all worried, insulted, harassed when we wear skirts, with the famous insult 'slut.'"
    The law still needs to pass the National Assembly, so French women don’t have to cover up their shameful, filthy bodies just yet. But if the anti-sex work legislation is enacted, the passive solicitation provision could mean serious trouble for any woman in France wearing a short skirt and heels, waiting for a bus, or making conversation in public with a strange man.

    An anti-prostitution activist, Grégoire Thery, also bemoaned the decision to place the onus on sex workers rather than on their clients. He told France24 that 75 percent of female senators voted to criminalize clients, while 75 percent of male senators voted against it.

    “The only explanation for this opposition is that it is a macho Senate,” Thery told France24.
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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    The law still needs to pass the National Assembly, so French women don’t have to cover up their shameful, filthy bodies just yet. But if the anti-sex work legislation is enacted, the passive solicitation provision could mean serious trouble for any woman in France wearing a short skirt and heels, waiting for a bus, or making conversation in public with a strange man.
    Haha, I love this part. What're they going to do about their night clubs.



    She is the on on the far left. All I hear is "waaaah, I'm ugly and can't play the hypergamy game, so all other women are prostitutes for wearing short skirts and heels."

    It has been said time and again, Feminists are no friends of women and this proves it.

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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Sex positive feminists are going to launch a massive counterattack to the Puritan sect of Feminists. If not, then they are complicit with the greater Feminist agenda which would not surprise me.

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    So sex neg feminists are going to try the muttawa card? Is THAT why they get all damp for Isis?

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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Quite some time back, probably before most of you were born, the French passed a law which stated that only attractive women could go nude on nude beaches. I don't quite get the intent of such a law, regardless of the degree to which I sympathize after needing eye bleach so many times just from gross women in yoga pants. When the first woman was arrested under this law, and was brought before a judge (male), he paused then said, "No gentleman would comment." The case was dismissed, and with that precedent the law quietly died.


    If prostitution is legal in France than what is the point of making looking like a prostitute illegal? And how would anyone judge the tiny difference between what most women wear out these days and dressing to solicit prostitution? If they ever tried this in the US almost every woman in any bar or disco on the average Friday or Saturday night would be arrested. I don't know how street prostitution can even work anymore in the US as there is no way to advertise that you are a prostitute by what you wear. A woman can only get so naked and suggestive, and most are already at that point.

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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Sex positive feminists are going to launch a massive counterattack to the Puritan sect of Feminists. If not, then they are complicit with the greater Feminist agenda which would not surprise me.
    As I have said a few times: first they burn the heathen, then they burn the infidel, then the burn the heretic. Internecine war amongst the feminists means they have run out of external enemies. It's a sign of their complete victory in the culture wars.

    1) Maybe a law requiring women to cover the fuck up in public is not actually a bad thing.

    2) Prostitutes do not dress "like prostitutes".

    3) Hooray for the Police State! This law will allow a french cop to clear the streets of anyone he doesn't like. How long has it been since Paris had a race riot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikediver View Post
    If prostitution is legal in France than what is the point of making looking like a prostitute illegal?
    Because moral bluenoses want to get around the fact that prostitution is legal and make it de facto illegal. Especially for poor people.

    It's Europe. The rich can have their mistresses and nobody minds, but the middle and upper lower classes have always hated the fact that the lives of the poor are not unremitting misery and have always outlawed the pleasures and entertainments of the poor wherever they can. Marx was popular in Europe because he was mostly right about how the world works and how wrong it is over there in Europe. He was not popular so much in America because America is a bit different.

    To put it another way: nothing that happens in the USA makes sense unless you factor race into your analysis. In Europe and especially Britain, the same is true of class. If anything, race in the USA is simply a proxy for class. This law, in the USA, would basically be "It's ok to be a prostitute so long as you don't dress like a black crackwhore". Of course, any POC working as a prostitute - however she is dressed - immediately qualifies as "looking like a black crackwhore". That's how it works.

    TL;DR: USA+Black == Europe+Poor

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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    It's Europe. The rich can have their mistresses and nobody minds, but the middle and upper lower classes have always hated the fact that the lives of the poor are not unremitting misery and have always outlawed the pleasures and entertainments of the poor wherever they can.
    Sorry, but you're miles off.

    In Europe, welfare is such that the poorest are encouraged to have as many illegitimate children as they can while those who earn middling wages have to pay for it all through taxation.

    In Britain, the liberalisation of the economy and the opening up of the old middle class professions has resulted in the new middle class being swollen with former working class people who worked for what they've achieved.
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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Quote Originally Posted by chiefbrownmonkey View Post
    Haha, I love this part. What're they going to do about their night clubs.



    She is the on on the far left. All I hear is "waaaah, I'm ugly and can't play the hypergamy game, so all other women are prostitutes for wearing short skirts and heels."

    It has been said time and again, Feminists are no friends of women and this proves it.

    Love it. Keep on keeping on ladies. May you burn it all to the ground.
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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

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    Every single one of them have one thing in common ... lazy .
    I hear you cuzz ! Women under 25 have no excuse for having a lousy body . Lazy ass unitelligent bitches
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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Because moral bluenoses want to get around the fact that prostitution is legal and make it de facto illegal. Especially for poor people.

    It's Europe. The rich can have their mistresses and nobody minds, but the middle and upper lower classes have always hated the fact that the lives of the poor are not unremitting misery and have always outlawed the pleasures and entertainments of the poor wherever they can. Marx was popular in Europe because he was mostly right about how the world works and how wrong it is over there in Europe. He was not popular so much in America because America is a bit different.

    To put it another way: nothing that happens in the USA makes sense unless you factor race into your analysis. In Europe and especially Britain, the same is true of class. If anything, race in the USA is simply a proxy for class. This law, in the USA, would basically be "It's ok to be a prostitute so long as you don't dress like a black crackwhore". Of course, any POC working as a prostitute - however she is dressed - immediately qualifies as "looking like a black crackwhore". That's how it works.

    TL;DR: USA+Black == Europe+Poor
    The socio-political situation in US and Europe is more or less identical in its goals.

    Slowing down minority birthrates to enable the peaceful integration between white people and the rest of the planet.

    Everything is "rape rape rape" in colleges to keep Tyrone from black breeding Chelsea Clinton and Jenna Bush and ruining the 300k education that daddy or the state is eventually gonna pay for.

    In the UK they're paying for 8 years of schooling for female doctors that get knocked up and give up their practice.

    Abortion clinics process millions of black, middle eastern and latino unborn every year, relatively few white unborn.

    Feminism is generally accepted or even embraced by most white people, and its policies will rarely affect white men.

    In fact almost all of feminism targets things that black people do, like catcalling.

    You saw the video with Shoshanna whatserface, 10 hours walking in NYC, not 1 white guy talked to her, but 100's of black men made passes at her.

    Why would they even need a catcalling law in Belgium? Who the fuck catcalls in Belgium? Immigrants, that's who.

    State welfare for mothers boosts birthrates, muslims are like %2 of the population in England, %90 of them are white.

    With laws like the one in the OP, and "manspreading" and "rape rape rape" you're creating an environment where literally anything is "illegal."

    But guess who gets arrested for it.

    Not some white dude in a suit.

    Bunch of mexicans "manspreading" at 3am on the train.

    You have to understand, politicians and rich and powerful people are all men, they're not gonna do stuff that's bad for themselves, they understand the effects of their laws.

    And alot of the behaviors and mannerisms and lifestyle they mandate in the law are code for "I'm high class" or "I'm white."

    If you look at it from this perspective, everything in society makes sense.

    When's the last time you saw an intact black family?

    When's the last time you saw a black father with 3-4 kids living with the mother?

    Meanwhile the Duggars are off raising child #19, and you can bet he doesn't "ask" before he dips his wick.

    "White trash" in Europe are off having 5,10,15 children and given council mansions.

    White guys are still out there every Saturday fucking club sluts, knocking em up, white girls are still out there every saturday in short skirts getting drunk.

    Do they care about feminism or being "illegal?" Not one whit.

    Because none of that shit affects them, it's strictly an abstraction.

    If you're a northern European male outside of the Men's Rights Movement, you simply don't notice anything, because Feminism is already part of your culture, it's part of your understanding and definition of "masculinity."

    "Toxic masculinity" generally consists of behaviors that minorities do, and to a lesser extent, southern europeans or catholics.

    If Marxism is "jewish" in character, then I would posit that Feminism is "northern european" in character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    As I have said a few times: first they burn the heathen, then they burn the infidel, then the burn the heretic. Internecine war amongst the feminists means they have run out of external enemies. It's a sign of their complete victory in the culture wars.

    1) Maybe a law requiring women to cover the fuck up in public is not actually a bad thing.

    2) Prostitutes do not dress "like prostitutes".

    3) Hooray for the Police State! This law will allow a french cop to clear the streets of anyone he doesn't like. How long has it been since Paris had a race riot?
    They had one fairly recently. However, the "race" was North African Muslims, who would be all in favor of a restrictive dress code being enforced.

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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    That law being proposed is ridiculous there. It's like the same thing as arresting someone who looked like a hippe or biker because they according to that twisted logic must in theory could be just like someone in the Manson family or one of the Hell's Angels who were at fault in the Altamont Rolling Stones riot.

    In some ways, it is a bit scareier than NSA. Or that same slippery slope.

    The problems with laws like those being passed in one place is that it sets a precedent where it might just come you your town someday. Kind of like the No Means No laws.

    And to think that a woman could get arrested for merely dressing sexy in the City Of Love of all places. This is a bad slippery slope for the sled on the western world there. For the sake of humanity, I hope that law proposal gets laughed out their congress/political hall.

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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    As I have said a few times: first they burn the heathen, then they burn the infidel, then the burn the heretic. Internecine war amongst the feminists means they have run out of external enemies. It's a sign of their complete victory in the culture wars.

    1) Maybe a law requiring women to cover the fuck up in public is not actually a bad thing.

    2) Prostitutes do not dress "like prostitutes".

    3) Hooray for the Police State! This law will allow a french cop to clear the streets of anyone he doesn't like. How long has it been since Paris had a race riot?

    1) It definitely is, although the motivation might be an issue. If it comes from the feministas or from the influence of Islam I would be concerned. If it came from common fucking sense I would be overjoyed.

    2) They kinda do, but it's not the overt whores we are talking about here (are we?).

    3) I'm not sure it will but yes, that Jacques Jobsworth uses the legislation to put his bitterness into lawful activity is definitely a concern.

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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    boosting this.....
    why not outlaw it?? I'd be someone who would advocate banning the bikini... (don't need to be reminded of what I can't have)
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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    You said rape twice.

    I like rape.

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    You had better clarify that statement before the guys start asking or assuming what you meant.
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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Covenant View Post
    You had better clarify that statement before the guys start asking or assuming what you meant.
    It's a joke, and a quote from the movie Blazing Saddles.

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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Oh right, cool.

    I bet others would have gotten the reference, but you have to be careful with the context of things in written media.

    The last thing we need is some dishonest SJWs trying to link us to that sort of thing.
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    Re: France could soon make dressing sexy in public an offense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Covenant View Post
    Oh right, cool.

    I bet others would have gotten the reference, but you have to be careful with the context of things in written media.

    The last thing we need is some dishonest SJWs trying to link us to that sort of thing.
    Understanably.

    But reasonable and rational people will see through their crap.


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