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    Why female don't approach.

    Was speaking with a good friend of mine who is training to become an accountant.
    He mentioned that there were many reasons why women don't approach.

    Some were:
    • They are shy,
    • They lack confidence
    • They do not want to be seen as pushy/or 'easy'
    • They prefer men to lead
    • They were oppressed and their sexuality wasn't allowed to flourish - so they hold on to old prejudices.


    And a few others.

    I countered with, most women, most of the times are want an upper hand in the encounter. By initiating, they are signalling an interest - and that immediate puts them in the seller position rather than the buyer.

    In the end, he was upset and told me I was being negative.

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    The guy is so blue pilled that morpheus would have offered him a purple one not to shock him too much.

    Females dont approach for two main reasons:

    1)By approching they give the other person power over them, power to reject them and power to control the interaction since they already shown their desire.

    2)They generally "passively" approch which means that they show green light to a guy to make a move on them so its them to have power over him or sometime simply gauge his interest even if they want nothing to do with him but favours.

    2b)However if there is a very strong differential in terms of LMS between the two, women would take more risks to have that guy, I see average girls behaving like beta males when they encounter top dogs like hot chads with great status and many women around them.

    For women desire and hierarchy of power are everyday tools to manipulate those around them and gather access to resources, this explains why southern european women are very powerful in their environment while polish or czech ones were not untill slowly beginning recently.

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    In this day and age of social media and thirsty simps validating all female presence online, I find females are carrying themselves entitled to male attention. I avoid eye contact with females and often catch them looking at me for validation.
    As much as it's easy for females to have sex, this constant role of a character of an attention-whore must take a toll in their daily lives. All that tight yoga pants, make up, unnecessary gym routines to add mass to their asses, and majority regular men at the gym look past through them.
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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Um, how about the most trivial reason? They donít find most men attractive.

    How about another one? They donít have to approach men, because they have orbiters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    He mentioned that there were many reasons why women don't approach.

    Some were:
    • They are shy,
    • They lack confidence
    • They do not want to be seen as pushy/or 'easy'
    • They prefer men to lead
    • They were oppressed and their sexuality wasn't allowed to flourish - so they hold on to old prejudices.
    OMG, your friend is such a sexist. Everybody knows women are strong and independent, and they can do anything as well as men can, if not better. /s

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Who makes the first move? THEY DO! They're like a field of flowers, open or closed, with their mantenna arrays up and running (men are useful idiots, some with a worthwhile monetary value). We're like vikings marching through life with our eyes on our path and know where we're going, they're either open with a smile or closed in conceit, waiting for a better viking. Unfortunately, the field of flowers are now Monsanto GMO Feminized Frankenstein's bride. Because of this I'm allergic to their DNA! I now trek through life riding a Toro lawn mower, wearing a mask, and carrying my trusty Viking battleaxe!(modern man)

    Where are all the good men? I'll tell you, we're walking through the forest avoiding the field full of toxins!

    Are they that stupid not to realize the penalty for associating with entitled women far outweighs the known and well established rewards of misery, loss of freedom, subjugation to tyranny, homelessness, and poverty?

    Go ahead ladies, throw yourself through a wood chipper, then try to explain to me how it's such a good idea?
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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Women don't approach because they are weak, and cowardly. Simple as that. The most they will do is try to make themselves available to the men they like, and hope they will approach. That's it, that's their only play. But the only way an interaction will occur is if the man initiates it.

    The funny thing about feminism and metoo is that they have successfully created an environment where most men won't want to approach anymore. Stable and successful guys certainly don't want to risk their careers to ask out someone from work. College guys don't want to have their future destroyed by a false accusation. Wealthy men don't want to marry or have kids because they don't want to lose what they've worked so hard for.

    So what options is the modern woman left with? She can become a sexual toilet for chads to use on tinder. She can pick from any one of the weak, neck-bearded orbiters who still use social media, and even those are drying up fast. Or, she can live in loneliness and isolation, waiting for a good man to rescue her. Only that man will never come.

    No wonder they're so unhappy. They have only themselves to blame.

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    I think it's because they feel they "DESERVE" to be pursued. To make a man "prove" his love, devotion, and lay down his life for her....
    'Bout then, she cuts his heart out.
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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    I think they find subtle ways to approach, especially at my age. Because they are hunting for the next divorcerape or retirement plan. Most common for me has been a married friend/acquaintance asking if I want to meet their single friend. Its a good trick, cause if I say yes , I am on the hook paying for whatever we do. An overweight borderline obese woman neighbor tells me to meet her at country line dancing night at a local pub, 'cuz its fun'. Yeah right, I am going to stay out late on a work night to entertain a land whale

    in the end, imo, they want the upper hand and they lose that edge if they directly approach

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    I countered with, most women, most of the times are want an upper hand in the encounter. By initiating, they are signalling an interest - and that immediate puts them in the seller position rather than the buyer.
    This assumes that the female in question is looking for a 'relationship' i.e. what can he do for me.

    On the other hand it's my experience that those riding the carousel are only too happy to initiate things while giving the impression that they are interested in YOU.

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    On the other hand it's my experience that those riding the carousel are only too happy to initiate things while giving the impression that they are interested in YOU.
    Interesting, I have never experienced this (maybe once to twice in my life). Where can I find such carousel riders?

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Women signal enough to make it obvious if they like you, that's not the problem. What bothers me far more is the gray area where they kinda like you but don't really like you. Mind games, hot and cold, keeping you close but not too close, wasting your time... all for attention. Learning that mixed signals equal a big fat NO was a long and painful lesson and I see men trapped in that shit everywhere.

    "Women who want to fuck you won't confuse you" - Rollo Tomassi.

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Your friend definitely comes off as a cuck with that response from an honest answer from you. Just like the majority, and in common knowledge, women don't pursue because they are scared of taking L's and don't handle rejection very well. I had a woman snap at me because I refused to let her curve me. She thought I was flirting with her just because I was making small talk, she tried to demean me, thinking that she's above my league for even talking to her for that long and I just straight up replied "What made you think I was into you? Just because I wanted a convo with you doesn't mean I'm into you. Sheesh lady, don't even flatter yourself." She wen't full on harpy on me after that (More on that story later on)

    Majority of chicks are fucking mental who ride on emotion rather than logic. A wise man once mentioned "If it weren't for our sex drives, we would find women absolutely repulsive."

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Women do approach but under several conditions:

    1. Holiday season is near
    2. If the man already has a girlfriend or confirmed to be a married man

    1. Women approach during holiday season because they are willing to be rejected if there is a chance for a payoff aka big pay day. The more broke a woman is the more likely she will do approaching.

    2. Women are willing to risk being rejected if they can hook up with a man already vetted by another female in a committed relationship.

    In both instances the payoff is greater than the risk which defies how men do approaching. When men approach the attitude is that it is a numbers game which means the risk is high and the pay off is low. Even the best PUA's say that a good night are numbers ranging well below 25% success rate.

    So, men use a scattershot approach using sheer number of approaches while women are more precise and do more planning which you can put that number on one hand.

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    They can't handle rejection like men can / must. For them, rejection affirms their true self beliefs: that there is someone prettier out there and she doesn't get to go to the prom, or dance, or ball, or mansion, or well-paying divorce. Women can't handle rejection from even the lowest man on the SMV totem pole. Because, a rejection means they are simply reject-able - and there are powerful psychological protections for this in the female, normally a mix of narcissism and cognitive dissonance.
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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Even as a kid in the 70's and 80's girls would actively invite themselves into my space. While there were some of the hard to get I went after most of the time it was the girl then women who came and told me what they wanted and were willing to do.

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Because, a rejection means they are simply reject-able - and there are powerful psychological protections for this in the female, normally a mix of narcissism and cognitive dissonance.
    I don't want to sound naive - but are women narcissistic to that level?

    I have always thought, that the reason they do not approach was a simple calculation (like you do in business). If you initiate the sale - that puts the buyer in stronger position. And women are cold and shrewd when it comes to business like that - they wait for the call from the buyer (while putting out feeders at the same time).

    I didn't think they were so fucking full of themselves that they think a man is obliged to initiate a conversation with them.

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    2. Women are willing to risk being rejected if they can hook up with a man already vetted by another female in a committed relationship.
    So would wearing a marriage ring make me more attractive?

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    I didn't think they were so fucking full of themselves that they think a man is obliged to initiate a conversation with them.
    Only if they find the man attractive. Unattractive ones are obliged to not even have small talk with them, lest they be accused of hitting on them. (I am not suggesting that the OP of that thread is unattractive, by the way.)

    Man, they are so fucking full of themselves that they think the world (men) owes them security, and if you tell them to do their part by taking certain precautions, they accuse you of blaming the victim. Case in point: rape hysteria. What do you expect from dependent weaklings that cry victim all the time to get support from the world (men)?

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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    I don't want to sound naive - but are women narcissistic to that level?

    I have always thought, that the reason they do not approach was a simple calculation (like you do in business). If you initiate the sale - that puts the buyer in stronger position. And women are cold and shrewd when it comes to business like that - they wait for the call from the buyer (while putting out feeders at the same time).

    I didn't think they were so fucking full of themselves that they think a man is obliged to initiate a conversation with them.
    You are referring to the female privilege of women being the sought after sex. That was, is now and will always be the case.
    But things have gone far past this point - let me explain:

    Women expect attention from men, but only the attention they want.
    They want equal opportunity so they can claim they are equal, but also equal outcome in the case they don't win.
    They want men to enthusiastically approach, but he must know in advance when it's appropriate (read minds).
    For men who fail the latter test, they want extreme social shaming and punishment up to and including job loss.
    They want to have a "progressive liberal" hedonistic sexual lifestyle, but fall back on a complex rules to protect their social status.
    They want "changed my mine" to be the de-facto standard for rape, with no stature of limitations (Party from 30 years ago).
    They want more women in fields where there are less women, but care less about fields where there are fewer men.
    They want more corner office jobs, while being okay with taking fewer field, construction, and dangerous jobs.

    If you were dealing with a child who wants things to be always in their favor, you'd say "Well, of course, this is a child." With women, you can CALL them children, but the real problem is innate narcissism stemming from being the sought after sex becoming malignant due to the damaging effects of feminism compounded from a complete lack of strong male leadership, from the home to parliament.

    And then there is the whole "narcissism of social media" where patently average women have what amounts to a phony IMDB page where they make themselves out to be glamorous movie stars. And it's not just for fun - they actually believe they are superior human beings.

    How is this NOT narcissism?

    Basically, women want all of the benefits of the old system(s), all of the benefits of feminism, and they want "their turn" at the table, even though men having a turn at the table was deemed unfair. If this reminds you of a teen saying "It's not fair my sibling got this and that. I want this and that too." Notice that it's only unfair until they get the same treatment. Then it's fair. Actually, it's not so much fairness than it is equal outcome. The other sibling may have done more work, enjoyed fewer privileges in other areas, or excelled academically. But that doesn't matter to the victim child who feels they are getting less - being oppressed, and marginalized.

    Feminism is a big narcissistic bully baby.
    The women who believe what they say are narcissistic bullies.
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    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
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    Re: Why female don't approach.

    Sid,
    That was a verra well written and quite accurate definition of the psychosis.
    I was going to type out some reply, but you pretty much covered it much better..
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