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    Re: The fall of the west

    Quote Originally Posted by Porkncheese View Post
    So most of us MGTOW sense that western society is in decline. Let's go over the reasons.
    1st is feminism which is aided by the capitalist elite.

    Aided also by the abandonment of Christian morals. Weather u believe in God is another topic. Fact is in the Christian morals which western societies were formed on women were forced to remain faithful. She'd be stoned to death if she monkey branched.

    Another reason is nuclear weapons.
    Man has always been in war for land and resources. So there was always a surplus supply of women. But since WW2 there has been no direct wars involving the big nations. Why? MAD. Mutual Assured Destruction.
    Basically means once u push the button u destroy both Russia and America.
    Every nuclear country knows this even Nth Korea.
    So now there is a huge surplus of men. The world has never been so peaceful.

    I remember I almost joined the army in my 20s. Why? I don't know. I just had the urge to fight in a war and despised this peaceful state were in now. Is that weird or wat.

    So wat does this mean. It's almost like the fall of Rome. They said Rome ruled the world but women ruled Rome in its final generations. They also dropped marriage and allowed promiscuous women to be sluts. The birth rate dropped. The famous Roman Legions which were so reveared got smaller and smaller. Meanwhile the northern tribes kept procreating and built big armies like the Goths, Francs and Vandals which eventually sacked Rome.

    We are Rome. The tribe that will one day take the west is Islam I think. It may take another 100 years but look at how they keep their women, no chance of a feminist revolution. Look at how many kids they have.
    Eventually their armies will be spread world wide. They will take America and Europe including Russia sorry Alik. They will aquire the nuclear arsenal. China will be the only society that will not be taken. Maybe India as well.

    The bonobo monkeys are a good example of a matriarchal society. Their so weak only a tiny society of them remain. Their at the mercy of the chimp patriarchal armies

    Interested to hear how people think it's gonna happen. I know this won't interest everyone but I know there are some political, social and philosophical minds here. Will it be like a sudden burst of the bubble?
    Will be have the pleasure of witnessing it?

    Interesting description on civilization which is quite accurate I think. There's 4 parts
    https://youtu.be/b4-Od8cq5Gk

    MGTOW chanel gives his description on how societies which I like
    https://youtu.be/xiMmVVdOTak

    A description on how transgener mania is a sign of collapse in society by former feminist Camille Paglia who I think is bisexual ironically.
    https://youtu.be/I8BRdwgPChQ

    Damn wrote a book. Ah well. LoL
    LOL the feeling when they are destroying Russia ...and you are not a russian ahhh priceless !!!

    Islam already fucked up Russia , Germany , UK , Swedes and whom not ...

    But islam will not destroy Russia - China will and already is owning Siberia ...


    PS. I dont believe in god cause for me morals is god . Even though i always say there is no morals ...but i forget to add where money and sex is involved . Thus there must be punishment when someone takes what is not his or her ...

    ( the bullshit god that sees everything was invented that even intelligent people thinked twice before doing something bad cause maybe , just maybe there is somebody watching )


    ( muslims are too pussy the never fight you one on one Exapt Opaque !!! He is a fighter !!! ... Chinese are a totally different beast )
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    I agree that it wiil be a "soft" take over by Islam through over population and economic collapse. Similar to the fall of western Rome.

    One of the keys to maintaining a society is to keep the birth rate above the sustainable rate of 2.2 children per woman.
    Its been lower than that for a while now in the west and in Russia. While in Islam its very high.

    Would China dare use their military to attack Russia? It would quickly escalete to a nuclear war.
    In the end both China and Russia would be destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AeternusDoleo View Post
    I think the message was "Shove your backwards religion where the sun don't shine, or I'll shove something else there instead."
    Message was received loud and clear...

    Also, Unboxxed, as an atheist I prefer to keep religion where it belongs: In anyone's private life. I see religions as nothing more then big control schemes, with doctrines for man spoken by men, written in the past by men, translated and reinterpreted by men. Nothing divine about any of that. But right now as an atheist MGTOW, I'm just no longer able to give a crap about that. Worship of the cross, the sickle or the cervix - it's all equally insane. I'll never turn religious, not even just lip service, that'd be hypocritical. But if Russian or Saudi tanks come barreling down the streets? At the moment it's just one army replacing another. And I'm in the mood to fight neither.
    Religion is ultimately selfdefeating. Humanity is curious by nature and religion cordons off sections where mankind should not investigate. That irrationality causes it to be challenged. In time. Dogmatic thinking is not fit for intelligent beings.

    To the atheist, AeternusDoleo.
    You guys believe there is no God. Theists believe there is a God. Both views are based on belief.
    For me I only believe in one thing... Knowledge...
    Iv come to understand the importance of Christian values but I'm agnostic. American atheists have an intense anger which i just don't understand.

    I view atheism as irrational. Attacking ancient texts with what??? Your own new age beliefs which there is no evidence for. So its even more dogmatic than religion as atheists have no foundation, no culture, no morals.

    Atheism is one of the reasons the west is in this situation. The greatest civilization the world has ever seen was built on a Christian moral foundation. And so Im very surprised to hear people talking down their very own forefathers who worked, fought and died for us to be here.

    I see young white men being treated like shit in the USA. Why would u turn on your own people just because u don't believe in God. Is the atheist belief really better than the theist belief?

    Allowing open divorce was the biggest atheist mistake. In christianity the woman must submit to her husband, she's not allowed to challenge her husband. It kept them from monkey branching and using their vaginas for blackmail.

    Why exactly do atheists hate religion so much??? The American ones are always so angry. Why???
    They speak of how bad religion is, blaming all the wars on it but which wars???
    As i said I don't understand these atheists. It just seems like a mindless attack on their own people.

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    I posted this cos I wanted to hear from ChrixtheGreat...
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    Re: The fall of the west

    Quote Originally Posted by Porkncheese View Post
    To the atheist, AeternusDoleo.
    You guys believe there is no God. Theists believe there is a God. Both views are based on belief.
    For me I only believe in one thing... Knowledge...
    Iv come to understand the importance of Christian values but I'm agnostic. American atheists have an intense anger which i just don't understand.

    I view atheism as irrational. Attacking ancient texts with what??? Your own new age beliefs which there is no evidence for. So its even more dogmatic than religion as atheists have no foundation, no culture, no morals.

    Atheism is one of the reasons the west is in this situation. The greatest civilization the world has ever seen was built on a Christian moral foundation. And so Im very surprised to hear people talking down their very own forefathers who worked, fought and died for us to be here.

    I see young white men being treated like shit in the USA. Why would u turn on your own people just because u don't believe in God. Is the atheist belief really better than the theist belief?

    Allowing open divorce was the biggest atheist mistake. In christianity the woman must submit to her husband, she's not allowed to challenge her husband. It kept them from monkey branching and using their vaginas for blackmail.

    Why exactly do atheists hate religion so much??? The American ones are always so angry. Why???
    They speak of how bad religion is, blaming all the wars on it but which wars???
    As i said I don't understand these atheists. It just seems like a mindless attack on their own people.
    Thats is what is fucked up cause people mix Christian values with gods and hell knows what else .

    Another thing that gets me is when someone preaching me Christian values is a jew . At least in my country this is the case almost 100% .

    Not that i care or listen Im just always " wait a minute ..."
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    Re: The fall of the west

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Thats is what is fucked up cause people mix Christian values with gods and hell knows what else .

    Another thing that gets me is when someone preaching me Christian values is a jew . At least in my country this is the case almost 100% .

    Not that i care or listen Im just always " wait a minute ..."
    While I see Christian values as mostly positive, there's something to be said about them weakening a believer in some regards, especially through concepts like "enemy love".
    Now you know why Jews push them. Anything that weakens goyim is good for them.

    Look at all those Islamist nations today. Many of them used to be majority Christian countries. But since Christians were too weak to defend themselves, they were wiped out and chased out. And Islam took over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porkncheese View Post
    To the atheist, AeternusDoleo. You guys believe there is no God. Theists believe there is a God. Both views are based on belief. For me I only believe in one thing... Knowledge...
    Iv come to understand the importance of Christian values but I'm agnostic. American atheists have an intense anger which i just don't understand.
    Matter of perspective I guess. I used to believe in the tooth fairy. I used to believe in Saint Nicholas (dutch Santa). I used to believe in a lot of things. I learned all these beliefs were created to let a child be at ease while growing up in a confusing and hostile world. All these illusions eventually shattered, so why not shatter the last one? Oh, sure, in school we had bible class, even here, in public elementary school. It was discontinued by the time I went to highschool, but by that time I'd seen enough. A critical mind will make it's own decision. I saw the story of "God" as yet another fairy tale, told to people who are insecure in their place in reality to be more at ease.

    I view atheism as irrational. Attacking ancient texts with what??? Your own new age beliefs which there is no evidence for. So its even more dogmatic than religion as atheists have no foundation, no culture, no morals.
    Atheism is one of the reasons the west is in this situation. The greatest civilization the world has ever seen was built on a Christian moral foundation. And so Im very surprised to hear people talking down their very own forefathers who worked, fought and died for us to be here.
    Attacking them with science, of course. The creation myth cannot be true, since there are objects in this universe that predate creation. How the universe was created then? I do not know, and I'll proudly state that I do not, and probably can never know. But to cop out by attributing it to some creator, and then not even answering the question "Okay, so who created the Creator?". This is just an example.
    Also, the civilizations of the west were largely founded on polytheisms. Greek, Roman, Celtic, Scandinavian... to name a few. Aggressive expansion of monotheistic religions (Islam, Christianity) as far as I can tell stumped progress rather then encouraged it. All fields of study that challenged the religious doctrine were after all, heretical. No more. The curious mind questions and verifies everything. Even spirituality (while I reject the concept of a deity, I do not reject the concept of a spirit - but see nothing divine about it. Another part of ourselves we can cultivate and directly use).

    I see young white men being treated like shit in the USA. Why would u turn on your own people just because u don't believe in God. Is the atheist belief really better than the theist belief?
    Allowing open divorce was the biggest atheist mistake. In christianity the woman must submit to her husband, she's not allowed to challenge her husband. It kept them from monkey branching and using their vaginas for blackmail.
    Mhm. And we see how that worked out. It kept the beast chained, but never changed the beast. And once the chains came off, out came the claws. Rip and tear, poor society.
    Women were never taught to be responsible with their own nature. They will need to figure this out on their own now. By the time they do, we'll have a barren generation. I'm not overly concerned, humanity will survive. Parts of civilization may not, but civilizations rise and fall. It's a simple matter of looking out for yourself at this point. The fall started half a century ago, before most of us were even born, and the course is set. We're men, we'll rebuild once all is ashes. It's what we do.

    Why exactly do atheists hate religion so much??? The American ones are always so angry. Why???
    They speak of how bad religion is, blaming all the wars on it but which wars???
    As i said I don't understand these atheists. It just seems like a mindless attack on their own people.
    Because the religious zealots are always so damn belligerent, and that goes for any monotheistic religion. I cannot stand one of these bible/torah/qoran thumpers telling me what to do and not to do just because a 4000 year old life manual is telling them so. Toss out that book and write your own. It is not difficult to not be an asshole. I don't go shouting the virtues of science and spiritual freedom into a sermon - so I would expect that courtesy to be returned. But that seems too much to ask sometimes.

    Not to mention the rights some of those zealots tend to claim based on those books. The right to tell other people who to fall in love with. The right to claim land as their own. The right to murder those who do not kneel or grovel in the prescribed manner. I could go on. That kind of claim gets me pissed off - and when it's made, I typically inform the one making it to rip out those pages and use it as toilet paper. To drive home how little value it has to me.

    Sure, religions may have some generally good ideas. But it's right up there with using chain smoking as a means of controlling high blood pressure. Yea, nicotine's a relaxant, but in the end the sideeffects are much more detrimental to your health then the benefits ever would be. You don't even need to deal with all the bad and outdated: You can still grab those good ideas while tossing out the rest of that old book. Going Your Own Way in spirit, too.
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    Re: The fall of the west

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    While I see Christian values as mostly positive, there's something to be said about them weakening a believer in some regards, especially through concepts like "enemy love".
    Now you know why Jews push them. Anything that weakens goyim is good for them.

    Look at all those Islamist nations today. Many of them used to be majority Christian countries. But since Christians were too weak to defend themselves, they were wiped out and chased out. And Islam took over.
    Your enemy isn't impressed if you tell him "go ahead and kill me, I love you anyway and God will forgive you" or some such nonsense. He'll laugh and chop your head off.
    You know what im saying

    I always have this " wait a minute " moment when i clearly see that the dude preaching is jewish .

    Pope is Jewish . When i see all the cardinals when they gather to see some holy smoke before the pope gets elected .

    Fuck me but the noses and ears are you fucking kidding me here mate

    And you dont even need that enemy love bullshit when you cant even defend yourself from someone robbing your house .

    Ask that russian dude that did just that he will have a story or two to tell his cell mates doing life ...
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    I agree that it wiil be a "soft" take over by Islam through over population and economic collapse. Similar to the fall of western Rome.

    One of the keys to maintaining a society is to keep the birth rate above the sustainable rate of 2.2 children per woman.
    Its been lower than that for a while now in the west and in Russia. While in Islam its very high.

    Would China dare use their military to attack Russia? It would quickly escalete to a nuclear war.
    In the end both China and Russia would be destroyed.
    Nobody wars anymore . You just pay off a couple of oligarchs and its done .


    There are no Russias and no Chinas and no Americas ... There are just a bunch of oligarchs and thats all .

    In Siberia all newly built apartment buildings have their addresses only in chinese .


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    Quote Originally Posted by AeternusDoleo View Post
    I do not know, and I'll proudly state that I do not, and probably can never know. But to cop out by attributing it to some creator, and then not even answering the question "Okay, so who created the Creator?". This is just an example.
    But why wouldn't you allow them impunity to not know this answer, just as you have allowed yourself impunity to not know things?


    Because the religious zealots are always so damn belligerent, and that goes for any monotheistic religion. I cannot stand one of these bible/torah/qoran thumpers telling me what to do and not to do just because a 4000 year old life manual is telling them so. Toss out that book and write your own. It is not difficult to not be an asshole. I don't go shouting the virtues of science and spiritual freedom into a sermon - so I would expect that courtesy to be returned. But that seems too much to ask sometimes.
    Are you being personally confronted and shouted at? The intense atheist anger of which Porkncheese speaks is itself an advocacy, and, like Christianity, is also out in the open air for everyone to see, or to contemplate, or to ingest, or to dislike, or to avoid, or to tolerate, etc. I notice that many people, including Christians, are living with the atheist POV all around them. The dislike of Christianity is well-known and not silent. Cannot Christians advocate for themselves in that climate? Atheists advocate for themselves. I'm not ready to say that atheists do not preach their lifestyle.

    Or maybe you would say that for me to make that contemporary comparison has me cleverly skipping over all the Christian stuff that came before and to which atheists are responding. There seems to be this implication from atheists that Christians initiated something in the past to which atheists are merely responding but I also think atheism was present before Christianity came along. As I understand it, Christianity was the response to atheism, not the other way around, and is still so today. Atheism has its historical ancestors too, and many were bad actors, in the form of godless war, murder, hate, and arguably all the bad stuff that happened before Christianity came along. I figure modern law-abiding atheists are tied to bad atheist behavior that came before if I am to be tied to bad Christian behavior that came before.

    Not to mention the rights some of those zealots tend to claim based on those books. The right to tell other people who to fall in love with. The right to claim land as their own. The right to murder those who do not kneel or grovel in the prescribed manner. I could go on.
    You just don't like the rules of the club, yes? So you didn't join the club. Okay. But, the right to murder? Are you talking the Christian Old Testament? Or something else?
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    Allowing open divorce was the biggest atheist mistake. In christianity the woman must submit to her husband, she's not allowed to challenge her husband. It kept them from monkey branching and using their vaginas for blackmail.
    Dude, the abrahamic religions are all in one way or another gynocentric.
    In Islam, a women is considered worthy of heaven simply by giving birth.
    In Christianity and judaism as well; similar ideas.

    If you are a fan of religious morals, then that is fine. But you cannot deny that a large chunk of these morals contain heavy heavy gynocentric brainwashing such as 'a man takes responsibility' 'a man must provide and be courageous' .

    This is the deep deep brainwashing and tyranny you will face if you grew up in a religious context.

    An about divorce, that is allowed in all abrahamic faiths; except traditional forms of Christianity. But the kind of Christianity we have now is even more gynocentric than the traditional denominations. Just visit any church and pastor will be shaming men for not marrying single mothers; talk about moral corruption.

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    Just visit any church and pastor will be shaming men for not marrying single mothers; talk about moral corruption.
    I haven't been to church in a while. Do they really do that? Shame the men? Is it for not marrying the woman whom the man himself made a single mother?

    Or for not preferring a single mother over a woman who is childlessly single?

    Or for not preferring anybody but choosing to remain single when there are single mothers out there to be legitimized? "Now, get out there, men, and wife them up!"
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    Interestingly enough the most religious people I know are lovers of science and philosophy. I suppose being self sufficient goes hand in hand with the practicality of science while pondering the bigger questions via religion and philosophy.

    I do agree that the Abrahamaic religions are gynocentric. But technically well before the rise of monotheism the polytheists were very gynocentric as well along with the animists. The concept of mother earth giving birth to life is as old as time.

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    I haven't been to church in a while. Do they really do that? Shame the men? Is it for not marrying the woman
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    "Now, get out there, men, and wife them up!"
    The shaming of unmarried men is there in a lot of the Lutheran/Protestant/Baptist/Prebysterian/etc churches. My theory is that they have lost a lot of tradition and spiritual aspects which you would strongly adhere to as a guide for strong nuclear families. Which is why the Catholic and Orthodox churches are not in the same situation. But the Catholic and Orthodox churches are unfortunately heading down a similar path because they need people showing up to keep the lights on.
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    The shaming of unmarried men is there in a lot of the Lutheran/Protestant/Baptist/Prebysterian/etc churches.
    Yup. Even though divorce is frowned upon in Catholic Churches; the man is usually to blame by default. The Anglican churches here in the UK openly support LGBT rights. Dilute the ideology and you get brainwashed followers who think they finally understand everything about life and the universe.

    Like those MGTOW who listen to a YT video and start saying 'men are rational, they use reason; women are emotional and they cannot use reason'.

    Almost like a cheap ticket to heaven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post

    a) Is it for not marrying the woman whom the man himself made a single mother?

    b) Or for not preferring a single mother over a woman who is childlessly single?

    c) Or for not preferring anybody but choosing to remain single when there are single mothers out there to be legitimized? "Now, get out there, men, and wife them up!"
    I was just wondering from which perspective were they inserting the shame element.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I was just wondering from which perspective were they inserting the shame element.
    A. Not so much because the churches know those men are lost causes in terms of financial dollars and social credit to the church. Actually, the churches would prefer that those baby daddies stay away. This is because the image of a church is an important marketing tool these days in maintaining numbers while bringing in new followers. Ironically these type churches don't see anything wrong with having overwhelming number of single mothers as part of their congregations. In eastern Orthodox or strong Roman Catholic churches aka tradcons outside the anglosphere they would never allow this to happen.

    B. If the woman has a child already these churches will encourage a man to "man up" because that is instant money coming to these churches. A man dating a single woman isn't always going to end up marrying and most marriages end often with no children produced. So, these churches are definitely pushing men to be beta bux for off spring that are not theirs of single mothers who happen to be members of these churches even if they don't marry.

    C. Similar to point B but a church will discourage single status with a series of social events throughout the year. This is the traditional way where men and women could meet openly and "mingle" similar to what is common with office parties in the modern era.

    So it is really a combination of all three elements in play where the shaming game is utilized by churches. The churches need future generations to keep growing to keep their lights on.

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    The churches need future generations to keep growing to keep their lights on.
    You've nailed it.
    This is also true of MGTOW; there are bound to be 'red-pill' men out there who will dilute the MGTOW message and it will get mixed up with all sorts of non-sense. A little compromise here, a little more nuances view there...

    When you put an idea out there on the market place, then there will always be someone to 'capitalise' on it and eventually distort its' essence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    You've nailed it.
    This is also true of MGTOW; there are bound to be 'red-pill' men out there who will dilute the MGTOW message and it will get mixed up with all sorts of non-sense. A little compromise here, a little more nuances view there...

    When you put an idea out there on the market place, then there will always be someone to 'capitalise' on it and eventually distort its' essence.
    Truth !

    Because people that are past all phases and already get the essence will very likely just move on .

    Am at this stage now where im thinking i better take this time to read a spanish book out loud as a form of meditation ...

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    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !


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