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    The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

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    WaPo announces the % of sexless Americans is at a 3 decade high. Key to this rise is the lack of sex among young men 18-29.

    This owes to increased hypergamy among modern women, courtesy of feminism, which substitutes modern sensible guidelines for mate selection (find someone your own level who loves you back) with tribal-era female->mate selection which has women chasing men out of their range, becoming a 'sidechick' (or pumped and dumped) -- essentially polygamy. Which is what humankind was like before civilization. The top 20% or so of men double up or triple up on women with the other 80% of men sitting around. For more on what's going on, read my post on The Great Regression.

    You can see in the charts that the era of Polygamy (2009-2018) has not impacted women much. Women not having sex has gone from 13% in 2009 to 18% in 2018. This small change is likely due to what I described as Avoiders- the women who cannot find a man significantly higher in SMV (these are usually mid to low SMV women) so they avoid the chase altogether. In other words, they are ALSO 'mental' in terms of being irrationally hypergamous, but simply cannot get a high SMV man so they opt out altogether. Rather that than date a man their level and get ridiculed by their female peers who are riding the carousel (and see a man like that as beneath them).

    Of course the WaPo reasons for why this is happening are laughable and more evidence the press is a joke. They point to more men living at home for example (a growth of ~20% hardly accountable for the 3x or 300% rise in sexless men). Until they have the guts to point out the effect of hypergamy, the great regression, and increasing polygamy in the sexual marketplace -- they will keep misleading their audience with 'reasons' that don't add up.

    Finally you can see that the change in lack of sex is greatest among the youth 18-29; which is the generation of women most influenced by the ideals of feminism, this notion that answering to one's impulse 'cannot be wrong' and ought not be superseded by the rational parameters for mate selection offered by a clearly "misogynist" society. Unfortunately, one's impulses were shaped in the paleolithic era; so unsurprisingly we see paleolithic era hypergamy from these women.





    MGTOW really uncovered all this a while back. It's interesting that the numbers so closely map what we've been highlighting in terms of human behavior.
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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    28%? Thats way too many young men avoiding child support costs. When Congress has a female majority, I am sure they can find some way for these men to help out on the costs associated with Chads kids with backup girlfriends

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Hypergamy may play a role, but have you seen the 20 year old whimyn these days? Post-wall at 19 and declining fast.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Boar View Post
    Hypergamy may play a role, but have you seen the 20 year old whimyn these days? Post-wall at 19 and declining fast.
    Piercings, tattos and fattitude spreading everywhere, no need to mention how disturbing it may be to deal with them for any man let alone average non chad ones.

    Im not kidding I saw girls moving from pretty likeable people to wrinkled tatooed warpigs able to trigger fight or flight insticts within a couple of years.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Boar View Post
    Hypergamy may play a role, but have you seen the 20 year old whimyn these days? Post-wall at 19 and declining fast.
    I wonder what portion of the 18% of females not having sex reported by the WaPo are already post wall Alpha Widows? Incapable of pair bonding due to a triple digit Carousel Ride count, and ignored by the Alphas/Chads they have 50 to 60 years of Cat Ladydom to look forward to. Meeeooooww!

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    See the title of the first graph ... "Young men driving the decline in sex"
    So hypergamous sluts and feminist ideology have nothing to do with it ok. Its all mens fault as usual.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by ABigSiameseCat View Post
    I wonder what portion of the 18% of females not having sex reported by the WaPo are already post wall Alpha Widows? Incapable of pair bonding due to a triple digit Carousel Ride count, and ignored by the Alphas/Chads they have 50 to 60 years of Cat Ladydom to look forward to. Meeeooooww!
    Solid point! many women simply dont accept anything lesser than their top partner, they are not unable to have sex but mostly reject anything less that their top achievement despite their value dropped.

    An other problem is that women would have sex with the same men they would enter a relationship while men have very low criteria for sex only and higher ones for relationship ones; women dont get it and think that if a chad is willing to have sex with them, she also qualifies as potential partner for him while in reality she match his low standard for sex but fails his high standard for a relationship.

    So they equate getting railed from a top chad as being in his same league for LTR therefore entitled to someone of that level.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    I love numbers any body can make them twist to suit themselves, i'm not having a shot at jagrmeister
    I'm sure what he says is correct . My point is this, in an article in Oz it was said that the divorce rate was in decline(these are an approximate ) In the 70s the divorce rate was 4.6 % per 1000 people at it's peak now it's 2% . Sounds right OK, now put in the rest of the numbers, marriage rate in the 70s 9.6% per 1000, now 4.6% per 1000.
    Of course it can't remain the same otherwise there would be 100% divorce rate but anybody with a sixth grade education can see co-habitation is in massive decline.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Looks like men are having our own #METOO movement, but like everything else we do, it's done in silence without the need for attention and drama. We ghost, women boast, it's just human gender nature.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    I don't see this situation changing. Women have made these choices and the consequences are going to lead to a society that is further fragmented. Social media is only just starting up since 2008. Another ten years of social media progression and women in general will be competing with each other in the virtual space for chads on instagram.

    Don't be surprised to see more paywalls on social media in the future which will stratify men and women and 80% of men will be stratified to the bottom. Meanwhile most women will be stratified in the middle which will keep them just close enough to reach top tier of men but not completely so they keep paying for such stratification. Gynocracy turned into a business model because young women are all in for lust mode and with no restraint from any direction.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Good. Fewer men suffering and dealing with bullshit in their lives. They may not see it that way but they're the ones coming out on top in this sick game.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Well gentlemen, welcome to the Japan style implosion of western society. This Wapo story is MSM confirmation of what Mgtow has been saying as long as it has existed. Unfortunately women are too irresponsible to recognize AF/BB destroys societies and are unable to voluntarily reign in their hypergamy. I kept hearing over and over that you don't need a majority of men to become Mgtow to collapse society, around 10% or so is the threshold. According to this data 28% of gen Y and Gen Z aren't getting laid? Holy shit man, nearly 1/3 of men will have absolutely zero stake in society. I can't even fathom the chaos that will create.

    I'm not a terribly religious man but these do kinda feel like the end times.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    As soon as I saw this on Timcast, I knew there was going to be a thread about it. Hammerhand offered to explain MGTOW to Tim Pool, and that would be a hell of good piece to read.

    I agree that MGTOW doesn't need giant numbers to drastically affect civilization. Gynocentrism is utterly reliant on having a large herd of Incels at any given time. Not TFL'rs, but Incels chomping at the bit to jump into chains on the plantation. They are effectively "out on the pasture", waiting in limbo until the slaughterhouse (cohabitation/marriage) calls for more meat. MGTOW actively cuts into the Incel herd, because once a man voluntarily eschews cohabitation or dating, he is no longer "on the pasture", but instead running wild on the prairie and having a damn fine time of it. The reason I'm using livestock terms is because men truly are viewed as livestock in a gynocentric world. A disposable beast of burden.

    MGTOW bears a much greater similarity to an animal migration than a movement. Because an overt political movement, such as the MRA's, can be identified and fought. A silent thinning of the Incel herd, IE: "reserve males" cannot. They dare not even acknowledge that it is taking place. The last time it was brought up on a national scale, Youtube had to demonetize every MGTOW creator in an effort to quash it... lol, it only drove more beasts from the pasture.

    In a closed system, even slight incremental changes in the environment can eventually lead to shocking changes. A minute shift in Earth's tilt (billions of years ago) turned the Sahara jungle into the Sahara desert. Given that the "eligible men" pool is so restricted by hypergamy, geography, and economics; the tiniest ripple can, and clearly has, become an extremely disruptive event.



    And it's nothing but wide open prairie, boys.
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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Odd , other papers changed the numbers. Salt Lake Tribune change it from 28% to 23%.

    https://www.sltrib.com/news/nation-w...americans-not/

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    30% of men, that's a lot of men. These are young men too. I just hope they are working hard on themselves, excelling in their careers, enjoying their hobbies and freedom, and saving for retirement. I hope they are opting out because of the lack of good options, rather than being incels. Most of all, when they are in their 30's and 40's, and their hard work has started paying off, I hope they will remember the experiences they had with women their age. Those same women will be hitting the wall and looking to nail down a beta-provider right around that time.

    Those women chose not to date decent men; instead they friend-zoned those guys, used them for dinner dates so they could get free food, and generally treated them like they weren't even human. They chose to give the best years of their lives to degenerates, scumbags and chads. They traded all the value they ever had to offer for dick, and they refused to do anything to be worthy of a decent man.

    They said they were strong, independent, and they wanted careers. They said they did not need a man. They have had nothing to say about men all this time, except to belittle them, try to shame them, and blame them for everything. They have no love, warmth, or compassion in their hearts; only dishonesty, greed, and hatred. I can't wait to see how that turns out for them. I can't wait to see an entire generation of entitled, narcissistic, and worthless whores get exactly what they deserve. That appears to be exactly what is happening...we are just witnessing the beginning.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by shipoffools View Post
    I love numbers any body can make them twist to suit themselves, i'm not having a shot at jagrmeister
    I'm sure what he says is correct . My point is this, in an article in Oz it was said that the divorce rate was in decline(these are an approximate ) In the 70s the divorce rate was 4.6 % per 1000 people at it's peak now it's 2% . Sounds right OK, now put in the rest of the numbers, marriage rate in the 70s 9.6% per 1000, now 4.6% per 1000.
    Of course it can't remain the same otherwise there would be 100% divorce rate but anybody with a sixth grade education can see co-habitation is in massive decline.
    What cohabitation when people live at home past their 30s . Noone in his right mind would move somebody in if he or she can afford to live alone .

    A chick that lives alone doesnt need someone to split her rent with . She can make up necessary funds on the internet .

    People only cohabit when a woman is on a hunt to take mans property and earnings .
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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post
    30% of men, that's a lot of men. These are young men too. I just hope they are working hard on themselves, excelling in their careers, enjoying their hobbies and freedom, and saving for retirement. I hope they are opting out because of the lack of good options, rather than being incels. Most of all, when they are in their 30's and 40's, and their hard work has started paying off, I hope they will remember the experiences they had with women their age. Those same women will be hitting the wall and looking to nail down a beta-provider right around that time.

    Those women chose not to date decent men; instead they friend-zoned those guys, used them for dinner dates so they could get free food, and generally treated them like they weren't even human. They chose to give the best years of their lives to degenerates, scumbags and chads. They traded all the value they ever had to offer for dick, and they refused to do anything to be worthy of a decent man.

    They said they were strong, independent, and they wanted careers. They said they did not need a man. They have had nothing to say about men all this time, except to belittle them, try to shame them, and blame them for everything. They have no love, warmth, or compassion in their hearts; only dishonesty, greed, and hatred. I can't wait to see how that turns out for them. I can't wait to see an entire generation of entitled, narcissistic, and worthless whores get exactly what they deserve. That appears to be exactly what is happening...we are just witnessing the beginning.
    They are ! Without a slightest idea of what to do with their life, at the beer money jobs, with zero prospects , piling up debt .

    The most sophisticated ones turn to drugs .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Women aren't putting the effort in to go out and meet men. It's not a male issue. Most men I know would like to meet someone, but females have this thing called 'hypergamy', they look for the very best selection. And they will continue to rejected hundreds and hundreds of men in order to find it.

    Men have simply become aware of it and decided this doesn't work for them, and they find their own way, MGTOW.

    Another issue which I have experienced, is many females have mental health issues. Not trying to be judgemental, but when I am on a date or spending time with a woman I find attractive, I don't want to deal with mental health issues.

    I want a woman that is happy and horny, all the time, every time. I am not a fucking psychiatrist to deal with her anxiety issues around sex.

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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Women aren't putting the effort in to go out and meet men. It's not a male issue. Most men I know would like to meet someone, but females have this thing called 'hypergamy', they look for the very best selection. And they will continue to rejected hundreds and hundreds of men in order to find it.

    Men have simply become aware of it and decided this doesn't work for them, and they find their own way, MGTOW.

    Another issue which I have experienced, is many females have mental health issues. Not trying to be judgemental, but when I am on a date or spending time with a woman I find attractive, I don't want to deal with mental health issues.

    I want a woman that is happy and horny, all the time, every time. I am not a fucking psychiatrist to deal with her anxiety issues around sex.
    That's why you have a harem of 10 women. On a given day, there is a good chance at least ONE OF THEM will be happy and horny! lol
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    Re: The Effects of Polygamy and Hypergamy- Sexless Young Men (18-29) goes from ~10% to 28% in 10 years

    I am not sure when the stigma of men living at home started when it is just as equally a stigma for women to live at home as well. Because from I recall in European countries men and women do not move out until they are married but obviously they are still having sex way before then.

    Also, in America, men and women lived at home for a bit but still found ways to have sex during the 50's, 60's and 70's at parties, inside cars, public areas, beaches, etc.

    While it is a turn off for women to date men for LTR opportunties that do live at home. But in my very honest opinion it makes no difference to women if they crave sex from that man if he still lives at home. If she lusts for Chad's or Tyrone's D she is going to find a way to make sex happen even if Chad or Tyrone doesn't have his own place, no job and is broke.


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