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    A Dear women letter

    Gentlemen

    As far as I can recall I never posted a vid in the MGTOW video vault really worthy to belong there

    but this one is definitely a jewel. And it's not because of tom leykis but it's the letter he reads from an anonymous man addressed to his wife and women in general.


    I hope you enjoy it a s much as I did.



    Well, Tom was the best man to deliver the message I guess.

    cheers
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    Re: A Dear women letter

    Savage, smart man.

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    Re: A Dear women letter

    There are too many great portions of his letter to reference. It's excellent from beginning to end. I liked his explanation of "in good faith" as I imagine it is a foreign concept to women who are not by nature attracted to business concepts.

    This is a great video.
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    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.

    Suitable for bookmarking: www.fakehatecrimes.org and www.breitbart.com/tag/hate-crime-hoax

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    Withdrawing physical intimacy is the preferred weapon of manipulation of most women. If she does it it's justified if he does it it's considered abuse. But it is sure as hell a guaranteed reason that he will get his needs satisfied someplace else. The number one reason why men cheat is caused by the withdrawing of physical intimacy by their female partners. I'm excluding PUA's here since their whole universe is centered around the amount of pussy they can slay.

    At least the guy who wrote the letter had the balls to leave her. How many married man are stuck because it's cheaper to keep her?
    I guess it boils down to the amount of female bullshit you can take.
    cheers
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    Quote Insidious Sid: "Some men are so MGTOW they're not even MGTOW".
    Quote Life is what you make of it "Marriage is the only war where you sleep with the enemy."

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    I don't get it? All I see is a blank space after NBM's text. I see this often here. Someone will post a video, but I don't see the link on my screen. Everyone else does, it seems. What's up with that?
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    Lykis reads a letter that explains infidelity

    This one would belong in the Awakened While Married sub if it existed. Tom Reads a letter from a guy who is about to divorce his wife. The lucky bastard probably isn't even entirely red pilled. Something tells me he's on to wife number two by now.

    In any event, he gives the best articulation of why it's morally OK to "cheat" if you are married and your wife stops having sex. This sort of advice is in short supply, so here it is.



    TL;DR

    Infidelity can take more forms than sexual. If either party of a contract stops fulfilling their part of the contract, expecting the other party to continue to maintain their portion of the contract is antithetical to fair play. If your stuck in a sexless marriage because you've made the decision leaving isn't worth the cost to you and your kids, this letter may help.

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    Re: A Dear women letter

    I have no idea. I have embedded the video correctly because I see it and can play the video without any problem if you see only a blank space than I'm already at wits ends here what could cause the problem. it's not YouTube censorship the culprit here otherwise you would see a blank youtube screen with a bullshit censorship message. Are you using any firewall or antivirus which could potentially block the youtube vid?
    maybe someone more tech-savvy knows an answer to this problem. I'm unable to help. It's a pity because it's a great video.
    Ciao

    p.s. go to you tube and type in the searchfield

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    Quote Life is what you make of it "Marriage is the only war where you sleep with the enemy."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Born MGTOW View Post
    Withdrawing physical intimacy is the preferred weapon of manipulation of most women. If she does it it's justified if he does it it's considered abuse. But it is sure as hell a guaranteed reason that he will get his needs satisfied someplace else. The number one reason why men cheat is caused by the withdrawing of physical intimacy by their female partners. I'm excluding PUA's here since their whole universe is centered around the amount of pussy they can slay.

    At least the guy who wrote the letter had the balls to leave her. How many married man are stuck because it's cheaper to keep her?
    I guess it boils down to the amount of female bullshit you can take.
    cheers
    I know of two cases from just my real life when sex was a must for her every day but she still managed to crush his brain with her nonsense .

    Crushing mans soul is the biggest, sex is far behind second .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: A Dear women letter

    MGTOW men: I transcripted the first part of the letter to women. I stopped it near the end with a sentence that really sums up the entire situation.

    Women of the world, heed this advice. heed it good and don't you ever think that you and your magic vagina are the exception to these few very simple rules. Take care of your man. Treat him right. Shower him with love and respect, and yes I mean take care of his physical needs. Satisfy him sexually. Wear him out. If you want to guarantee fidelity in your marriage there is a simple way to achieve that. Never let your husband leave the house with a single drop of semen remaining in his body. Trust me, if he is not dumping it at home he's dumping it somewhere, unless he is a hopelessly unattractive beat-down loser. When you use sex for power and control you do damage that cannot be undone. When you withhold sex and affection from your husband you drive a wedge between you and your man, not only that, you drive him elsewhere to get his needs met - it is that simple.

    And for the record, let me assure you this world is literally brimming with women who are very happy to be a friendly port in the long nasty storm. There are people out there who take satisfaction in undermining your hollow little conquest of controlling the sex in your marriage. Let me further assure you that there is no such thing as controlling your man sexually. The simple reality is that if he has any game at all, and does not have a parasitic twin growing out of his forehead, the world is full of offers, You can only control whether he is getting it home or not. If you want to control your man you have to give him all the sex he wants. If you want to lose control of your man go ahead and cut him off.

    Let me add a further tidbit of wisdom at no extra charge. There is an old saying "Women get married hoping everything will change, men get married hoping everything will stay the same." Women: if somewhere in the back of your mind you are waiting for the day when your male partner is bound by contract, finances and perhaps biology, so that you can cut off the sex and become a mini tyrant, don't get married. Join a convent. Work at an orphanage or a preschool. Adopt a child on your own. Find some way to fulfill your maternal instincts that does not involve marrying under false pretenses. Your man would not have stuck around before the marriage if it were loveless and sexless. He also does not want a marriage that is sexless. There are a million things you can do to have your child or children without suckering in some poor dope too naive to foresee your evil plan. Are you an honorable person? Then live honorably. Do not live in breach of the spirit of the marriage contract.

    Trust me.

    The sex you were willingly giving up as a sell-job before the marriage is the only commodity you have to barter that makes it worthwhile for your man to tolerate the rest of what comes with you.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: A Dear women letter

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    MGTOW men: I transcripted the first part of the letter to women. I stopped it near the end with a sentence that really sums up the entire situation.

    The sex you were willingly giving up as a sell-job before the marriage is the only commodity you have to barter that makes it worthwhile for your man to tolerate the rest of what comes with you.
    I would add that their offer is steadily diminishing. Start with their lack of sex appeal, add in psychotic behavior and put the final spin with a cocktail of disease and there is very little to be desired. I would daresay that sex is becoming the new smoking.

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    Re: A Dear women letter

    "Women get married hoping everything will change, men get married hoping everything will stay the same."

    Twenty minutes is a long time to commit to listening to a podcast but this one was time well spent. Truth bombs from the start to the end. I left a long term relationship that may have led to marriage due to financial priority differences, and above that the REDUCED SEX. I mean, this was a womyn with almost four years invested in me, and she couldn't continue to pretend to desire the cock long enough to seal the deal. What would have become of our sex life if I had submitted to allow the government to bind our relationship? The same thing that happened to this poor fella.

    Of particular insight is the cold hard realistic way he details how un-beneficial womyn are to a man's life. How little they bring to the table. It's difficult sometimes when I see a nice ass or shapely legs walking down the street, but I remind myself of these facts. The womyn intentionally wear uncomfortably tight pants and extra small jackets to showcase these assets that will make a man forget what he knows about their conniving ways. Stay strong men, shut them out.
    If it floats, flies or fucks, it's better to rent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boar View Post
    I would add that their offer is steadily diminishing. Start with their lack of sex appeal, add in psychotic behavior and put the final spin with a cocktail of disease and there is very little to be desired. I would daresay that sex is becoming the new smoking.
    The new smoking on roids !

    Everything to fucking lose !
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Desire cannot be negotiated.

    https://therationalmale.com/2011/08/...esire-dynamic/

    The best you can expect after marriage is transactional duty sex, and she will grow to resent you for this obligation. They only winning strategy would be to use psychological game 24/7/365 to keep the desire alive, and never slip up. But any rational man would say fuck that, we have more important ways to exert our energy during this brief period of existence. Never commit to them, and just fuck prostitutes, dolls, or watch porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnFucked View Post
    Desire cannot be negotiated.

    https://therationalmale.com/2011/08/...esire-dynamic/

    The best you can expect after marriage is transactional duty sex, and she will grow to resent you for this obligation. They only winning strategy would be to use psychological game 24/7/365 to keep the desire alive, and never slip up. But any rational man would say fuck that, we have more important ways to exert our energy during this brief period of existence. Never commit to them, and just fuck prostitutes, dolls, or watch porn.

    This is exactly why...WE MUST NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS
    Do not give your strength to women, or your ways to that which destroys kings.
    -Proverbs 31:3

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    Re: A Dear women letter

    To add more salt to the wound... Not long ago I was in a club, because a musician friend was performing that night and I thought I'd go along. My friend told me that a couple had gone into one of the men's cubicles to fuck. Later on I happened to go into that cubicle and noticed the used condom dumped on the overflowing waste bin. I noticed that it was empty (not that I was investigating or anything). So where did the semen go? Obviously the horny bitch guzzled it down her throat like Greek yoghurt. THIS is the kind of thing that women will do for random strangers they just met a few minutes ago. This is raw desire. Men in relationships do NOT get this.

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    Re: A Dear women letter

    Quote Originally Posted by UnFucked View Post
    To add more salt to the wound... Not long ago I was in a club, because a musician friend was performing that night and I thought I'd go along. My friend told me that a couple had gone into one of the men's cubicles to fuck. Later on I happened to go into that cubicle and noticed the used condom dumped on the overflowing waste bin. I noticed that it was empty (not that I was investigating or anything). So where did the semen go? Obviously the horny bitch guzzled it down her throat like Greek yoghurt. THIS is the kind of thing that women will do for random strangers they just met a few minutes ago. This is raw desire. Men in relationships do NOT get this.
    LOL the dude faked orgasm

    But yeah it was very likely that she swallowed it like she should !!!
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Or that dude just got sperm jacked. Who knows what she did with it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    LOL the dude faked orgasm

    But yeah it was very likely that she swallowed it like she should !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnFucked View Post
    Desire cannot be negotiated.

    https://therationalmale.com/2011/08/...esire-dynamic/

    The best you can expect after marriage is transactional duty sex, and she will grow to resent you for this obligation. They only winning strategy would be to use psychological game 24/7/365 to keep the desire alive, and never slip up. But any rational man would say fuck that, we have more important ways to exert our energy during this brief period of existence. Never commit to them, and just fuck prostitutes, dolls, or watch porn.
    Interesting that you quote Rollo. I've learned a ton from that guys material. What confuses me about him though, is that he articulates every reason in the universe to avoid women. Lately I ask myself "How is this not a MGTOW argument?" every time I read his stuff. He always concludes that you can win at this game though. I just don't get it. It's like he isn't reading his own material or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    He always concludes that you can win at this game though. I just don't get it. It's like he isn't reading his own material or something.
    "Wife Game" is purple pill nonsense. Reminiscent of the "MMSL" (Married Man Sex Life - Athol Kay) and other Purple Pill wife-game "experts". They believe that a man's actions and "frame" can over-ride base female nature. Like some sort of like a talented rancher, organizing cattle into a line to the slaughter-house.

    These "confident married guys with frame" can act as confident as they want. They'll never be the alpha she remembers - the alpha she needed to stop chasing to settle for our Beta Bux provider. No matter how much "wife game" you have, if you were not her first choice, you're Beta Bux. And if you WERE her first choice, she doesn't respect you anymore because you gave her commitment. You have BECOME Beta Bux.

    This is why NO COHABITATION and NO MARRIAGE is so important. It's a no-win game, where she gets cash and prizes even if she loses.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: A Dear women letter

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    "Wife Game" is purple pill nonsense. Reminiscent of the "MMSL" (Married Man Sex Life - Athol Kay) and other Purple Pill wife-game "experts". They believe that a man's actions and "frame" can over-ride base female nature. Like some sort of like a talented rancher, organizing cattle into a line to the slaughter-house.

    These "confident married guys with frame" can act as confident as they want. They'll never be the alpha she remembers - the alpha she needed to stop chasing to settle for our Beta Bux provider. No matter how much "wife game" you have, if you were not her first choice, you're Beta Bux. And if you WERE her first choice, she doesn't respect you anymore because you gave her commitment. You have BECOME Beta Bux.

    This is why NO COHABITATION and NO MARRIAGE is so important. It's a no-win game, where she gets cash and prizes even if she loses.
    Wife game you cant win . You can win some money , yes . But the game it self you cant .

    She cheated on you way more times that you on her . Period .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !


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