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    New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    From Slate: Riley Black, formerly known as Brian Switek, is the author of the natural history books Skeleton Keys, My Beloved Brontosaurus, and Written in Stone. They live in Salt Lake City.
    "We all need to take more advice from a deeply stable individual who prefers to be known as ďthey.Ē" Multiple personalities?

    "Ö Instead, we got the same sexist schtick about one guy at one fossil site whoís going to figure it all out. Ö Not only does this perpetuate the lone genius trope thatís demonstrably false, but it underscores paleontologyís deeply rooted problem with male privilege.

    The search and study of extinct life has persistently been depicted as a manís science . . . "
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    But why is Slate calling out ďmale privilegeĒ instead of just ďwhite male privilegeĒ? Is Slate racist?"
    https://vdare.com/posts/slate-it-s-t...-to-go-extinct





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    Re: New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    Girls can be scientists if they want to, but if they can't pass the courses in college they need to do something else.

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    Re: New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    "From Slate" is as far as I read. That was all I needed to know that anything that follows belongs in a septic tank.

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    Re: New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    Hmm.. The vdare article briefly pokes at Riley Black's Slate article which complains at length about Douglas Preston's The New Yorker article, here:

    March 29, 2019 - The Day the Dinosaurs Died

    and the Slate author says this about Preston's article which had preceded a published paper:

    It also happens to be exactly the kind of scruffy, macho, lone-scientist stereotype legend that needs to go extinct.
    Not only does this perpetuate the lone genius trope that’s demonstrably false, but it underscores paleontology’s deeply rooted problem with male privilege.
    Preston’s bombastic piece was a sloppy and sensational rollout, getting to the public first before the scientific results could be published, discussed, and questioned. Possibilities and uncertainties were recast as facts that the rest of the scientific community would simply have to deal with. This shouldn’t be how science, or science journalism, works.
    this was an opportunity to highlight the best of the field, to tell a rich story that brings all the diverse voices and perspectives working on paleontology in the 21st century to bear. We did not get that story. Instead, we got the same sexist schtick about one guy at one fossil site who’s going to figure it all out.
    Reading over the Slate article, its author does not like how the New Yorker author portrayed things as compared to the paper published on it:

    April 1, 2019 - A seismically induced onshore surge deposit at the KPg boundary, North Dakota

    saying the "hype just doesn't match the published results".

    Is it gratuituous of me to point out that the New Yorker is for-profit entertainment where the research paper is more sterile? Does that make me a bad person to say that? I like The New Yorker although I haven't read it in a while.

    Regarding Black's one reference to "sexist schtick", The Indiana Jones comment was neither here nor there, to me. I'm ok with the New Yorker photo of the paleontologist and his assistant posing for the camera. And in whatever clothes are comfortable for them. They can't help it that they are not women. They should not be shamed for not wearing clothing that women might find more comfortable for women. But, is this about women?

    Here's the whole point of Slate, found at the end (italics mine):

    More lead time would have allowed a more careful story to be told, perhaps one that could have involved some of the more diverse voices in the field that will undoubtedly now go about investigating and testing the fantastic claims Preston and DePalma have made.
    That could be against The New Yorker and not Preston only. Was there pressure on Preston from his superiors to get it out there on a deadline, even if ahead of the published paper? Riley Black perhaps wanted Preston to have written a more scholarly piece. Ok. But, why does Black title his article "It’s Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"? I wanted to trigger on the word "diverse" but I don't think it's a white male thing, even if he mentions male privilege, to me an unnecessary jab. Black's article has no instances of the words "woman" or "women". Does Black only believe that this trope has unduly influenced Preston, steering Preston away from a better article, thus the trope is unhelpful? Is that all he is saying?

    Ok. But, then, who wrote his trendy title? I am aware in newspaper editing that the person who selects the title of the article may not be the same person who wrote the article. I also saw an editor do that to one of my Letters to the Editor that they published, completely subverting my point into a fight I was not making. Did that happen here? Did Black's superiors put a provoking title to his article, overtly implying sexism, because they are for-profit? Did pressure from Preston's superiors also happen to Black? Did we fall for this?

    I don't know.
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    Re: New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    So in other words, no more paleontologists?

    LMAO. What a fucking joke. I honestly don't even know what they're trying to prove anymore. It's just an unbridled hate-fest against men, without any rhyme or reason. It's basically saying if you're a man, you have no right to be a paleontologist. Now go fuck off. If any women are interested, (they're not) they will take your jobs and your paychecks. Science and discovery take a back seat to gender and feminism.

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    Re: New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    The movies are full of female paleontologists, like 3 to 1, lets keep it pretend when it comes women in STEM, otherwise everything from rubber to rainbows will fall apart!

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    Re: New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    Want to know why there are not many female paleontologists?

    When looking for fossils out in the field you have to do a lot of hiking. And a lot of hiking involves dragging a lot of gear around so you can live out in the field for a few days to weeks at a time. Also you need the strength and endurance to carry enough water/food to sustain yourself for the day. When hiking in the field guess who often takes more bathroom breaks because of smaller bladders? Guess who will have swollen knees hiking in uneven and rocky terrain? Guess who frequently stumbles and lacks upper body strength to recover?

    The few female paleontologists that I know are as close as unicorns you can find, Physically fit, sharp, self reliant, etc but in the end they are still women and the limitations are evident out doing field work. This simply means that human beings are one of the more clearly defined dimorphic species on planet earth. Not only in terms of biology but also physiology, psychology, and cultural norms and traditions. Humans beings are billions on this planet not because they see each other as equals but as a sum of all parts. The east calls it the yin and yang but in the end it is all the same. It is a balance between individuality and collectivism that defines the human experience.

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    Re: New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    The reason field anthropologists tend to be male is that field anthropology involves going to parts of the world where there are people who will kill and rape you. If you want to dig up ancient Babylon, that involves being in Iraq.

    Even being at a fossil site in the good old USA means living in a tent for weeks. Women detest camping, for excellent reason. Vulvas get infected easily, blood comes out of them once a month, and that last drop of piss that men can simply shake out of the hose tends to hang around inside the labial folds and smell without modern conveniences to clean it up.

    Feminists would far prefer that anthopology was something done entirely in the comfort of an armchair, and they have made great strides in this direction.

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    Re: New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    It would be nice if men stopped being paleontologists and let only women do it, why? Here me out.

    Since we know women can’t survive in the wilderness without a man, while they go hunting for fossils with their “women group”. Little by little they will die off one by one out there. So then the women, since they die in the wilderness, the dead cunts will eventually become fossilized.

    So in the future men will have to come back to the profession, probably with a women in tow, you know, “because equality” to get the job done.

    Anyway, here is the fascinating part about all this, when the men (with women in tow), find these future fossilized dead women, the men will be able to give these dead women their proper names, like they did for the dinosaurs, like,

    Cuntrannosaurus Rex

    Cuntceratops

    Cuntylosaurus

    Pcuntodactyl

    Cuntopod

    Stegocuntus

    Sabertoothed-cunt

    Cuntmoth

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    Re: New Crisis: SLATE: "Itís Time for the Heroic Male Paleontologist Trope to Go Extinct"

    You forgot "CankleSaurus"! And "Ickysaurus" and the "Wamapautomous"


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