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    A conversation about Gynocentrism

    I have a friend who just married and is a trad-con. Believes that gynocentrism is a "necessary evil". The other day, I had a conversation with him, which I present here. Do note, that these are not actual quotes, just simplified while maintaining the content intact.

    Me : So humor me, about a hypothetical situation. Suppose you have a kid, a boy, in early teenage years, is caught shoplifting some expensive item, and the shopkeeper slaps him once or twice and then lets him go. The slaps are the kind which hurt the pride but nothing much else.

    Him : I will be thankful to the shopkeeper for not calling the police, and I will try to talk to my kid about this thing. Will try to teach to him that stealing is not a good habit. But if he beaten my kid with sticks/stone, he is DEAD.

    Me : Alright. Now what if the kid is a girl, but of same age ?

    Him : I will be a bit angry at him. He shouldnt have raised his hand against a girl but call me directly instead. I would've dealt with the situation.

    Me : Is it about the fact that girls are weaker physically and feel more pain from physical assault ?

    Him : No, its not about that. Its just wrong to hit a little girl for that small a matter.

    Me : Hmm, so this is blatant favoritism towards one gender. And you are okay with this ?

    Him : Yeah, I guess so, anyone in my place will be of same stance.

    Me : Alright, now lets switch back to old scenario. The kid is a boy, but shopkeeper is a woman. And this time, she catches him and beats the crap out of him. Say with sticks and stones. Now what, is she "DEAD" ? You will just go and beat her up ?

    Him : No, I will go to the police.

    Me : Exactly. You will go to the police because now you cant do shit about it. You touch the woman and you will be in a LOT of trouble. The crowd will beat the crap out of you, if not kill you altogether.

    Him : Yeah, but that doesnt mean she has the right to take the law in her hands.

    Me : She has. You just gave her lots of rights few sentences ago. This is the problem with "little" gynocentrism. No matter how small it is, the effect gets compounded when everyone in society adds up. It will look all cool if some female in the family is hurt, but it wont be so if some male gets hurt.
    At that point, he understood my point, but said that he cant help it. No matter how much me or anyone explains to him, he will still end up behaving the same. And this is what I think is the worst part of gynocentrism. I dont think it can ever be fixed.

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Did you really start the conversation with " humor me " ?

    Now its clear why you two are not friends anymore
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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Did you really start the conversation with " humor me " ?

    Now its clear why you two are not friends anymore
    Well, he is used to my shenanigans.... so he is still a friend... somewhat...

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Here's my conversation with Trad Cons:

    "Good luck with ALL THAT!"
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Well, he is used to my shenanigans.... so he is still a friend... somewhat...
    Don't worry, his wife's working on it. They probably won't lock the door, but before long she'll squeeze you out of their life. It's not so much cause your MGTOW, though that makes it worse. You gotta go cause your free, and your friends not. Wifey's man is not going to get any visitation rights with the likes of you. She'll hide it of course. My neighbor's wife would watch her husband leave, then call his friends house a half hour later. Every single time, even though he hadn't seen his pals for months. Like a whipped dog, he'd buy her lame ass excuses and return home. I used to wonder why married guys stayed out and got drunk on the few times they did manage to escape. I don't wonder no more.

    If someone asks, I'll say what I think. If something fits, I might speak up. But that's about it, most of the time nobody's going to listen.
    Last edited by frog; May 31, 2019 at 7:14 PM.
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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Don't worry, his wife's working on it. They probably won't lock the door, but before long she'll squeeze you out of their life. It's not so much cause your MGTOW, though that makes it worse. You gotta go cause your free, and your friends not. Wifey's man is not going to get any visitation rights with the likes of you. She'll hide it of course. My neighbor's wife would watch her husband leave, then call his friends house a half hour later. Every single time, even though he hadn't seen his pals for months. Like a whipped dog, he'd buy her lame ass excuses and return home. I used to wonder why married guys stayed out and got drunk on the few times they did manage to escape. I don't wonder no more.

    If someone asks, I'll say what I think. If something fits, I might speak up. But that's about it, most of the time nobody's going to listen.
    Its already started, none of the wives of all my married friends have any nice opinion of me !

    That is... if they know about my existence at all, cuz I cant be found on fb, insta, twitter, whatsapp or whatever ppl use these days. And the women are soooo fond of staying glued to them like ants on spilled sweetened drinks.

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Its already started, none of the wives of all my married friends have any nice opinion of me !
    This happens to me every time I try red-pilling a good friend. Now I just feed them more blue pills, because I know it would mean the end of the friendship if I tell him the truth.

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Most people do not want the truth. What they want is more BS to make them feel ok with the BS they already believe

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    I would solve the whole thing a different way, the MGTOW way, the only way, nip it in the bud, FUCK HAVING KIDS!

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I would solve the whole thing a different way, the MGTOW way, the only way, nip it in the bud, FUCK HAVING KIDS!
    Yeap, thats how we would do, but not the tradcons

    This same guy was telling me other day that maybe MGTOW should find a place to live on mars lol !!!

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Yeap, thats how we would do, but not the tradcons

    This same guy was telling me other day that maybe MGTOW should find a place to live on mars lol !!!
    Live on Mars? Fuck him, at least we'd still own our own homes and not living in the sand storm due to gynocentric judicial order!

    Don't get me wrong, before all this fucking bullshit caused by feminism I would have loved to have kids and family, because back then we were the authority over family, not fickle nature back stabbing ruthless over empowered cunts and their endless misandry with destruction of all things good and decent!

    In this climate of feminism, masculinity is doomed unless it's preserved by the sheer tenacity of total sovereignty! In short order; FUCK IT ALL!

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Live on Mars? Fuck him, at least we'd still own our own homes and not living in the sand storm due to gynocentric judicial order!

    Don't get me wrong, before all this fucking bullshit caused by feminism I would have loved to have kids and family, because back then we were the authority over family, not fickle nature back stabbing ruthless over empowered cunts and their endless misandry with destruction of all things good and decent!

    In this climate of feminism, masculinity is doomed unless it's preserved by the sheer tenacity of total sovereignty! In short order; FUCK IT ALL!
    But then they will tell you that they found a unicorn !!! Especially the newly married ones...

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Its already started, none of the wives of all my married friends have any nice opinion of me !

    That is... if they know about my existence at all, cuz I cant be found on fb, insta, twitter, whatsapp or whatever ppl use these days. And the women are soooo fond of staying glued to them like ants on spilled sweetened drinks.
    Wait ... people started talking on this forum that you are from India ... What do you mean it already started ? As far as i know indians are very religious people and strictly follow the religion of good .

    If you worship the plastic dude or a doll in a dress with a flute ... how come you all still act like godless Americans or mixed race half yellow Europeans in chinese flip flops made out of tires ?

    Is it true that there are no rapes in India ?

    At least you are not swede in a skirt with matching purse .
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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Wait ... people started talking on this forum that you are from India ... What do you mean it already started ? As far as i know indians are very religious people and strictly follow the religion of good .

    If you worship the plastic dude or a doll in a dress with a flute ... how come you all still act like godless Americans or mixed race half yellow Europeans in chinese flip flops made out of tires ?

    Is it true that there are no rapes in India ?

    At least you are not swede in a skirt with matching purse .
    Since when did someone followed religion for "good" ? Afaik, that "plastic dude" or "doll in a dress with flute" is worshipped by men wishing for sexy wives, or by women wishing for Indian version of "Chad", which is mostly same, just some tweaks here and there to fit the culture. Other than that, they are pretty godless, cuz what they worship are Americans !

    They worship american cities, american cars, american celebrities, american food, and last but not least, american way of living 99% of their lives on social media. A friend of mine works at Adobe, and recently they sent him to US for a trip of 15 days. He literally orgasmed at the news... not kidding at all.

    About rapes, they do happen I guess... cuz no matter how hard I try to stay oblivious of the tunnel visioned society around me, whenever something of that sort happens, everybody starts talking about it... :-/
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    MGTOW is about making no mistakes against gynocentrism.

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    India has all the same problems that we do, and they are very different in many cultural aspects so deeply engrained that we might as well live on different planets... but they are still humans just like us, so you get all the same stuff in the end. One thing is that their culture is vastly older than western civilization, so an awful lot of the traditions that they are shedding are behavioural adaptations to hypergamy.

    A dowry, for instance, is literally a family bestowing lots of money upon the guy who takes their daughter in... I guess in recognition of the feat he's about to be tasked with. It leads to great abuses, unsurprisingly. Bait & Switch, Buyer's Remorse taken to a violent conclusion... it's a bad deal, in the end.
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

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    Re: A conversation about Gynocentrism

    Quote Originally Posted by devilcomeknockin View Post
    India has all the same problems that we do, and they are very different in many cultural aspects so deeply engrained that we might as well live on different planets... but they are still humans just like us, so you get all the same stuff in the end. One thing is that their culture is vastly older than western civilization, so an awful lot of the traditions that they are shedding are behavioural adaptations to hypergamy.

    A dowry, for instance, is literally a family bestowing lots of money upon the guy who takes their daughter in... I guess in recognition of the feat he's about to be tasked with. It leads to great abuses, unsurprisingly. Bait & Switch, Buyer's Remorse taken to a violent conclusion... it's a bad deal, in the end.
    Yeah, its all the same problems, tradition overflowing with gynocentrism. Along with all the other social problems. The culture just colors this a bit differently, but this is only superficial.

    And dowry is a funny business, its been abused so many times from both sides. The guys actually, quite literally plan ahead... "when I marry, I'd probably ask for a ______". Depending on status, the blank is filled with a refrigerator, bike, car, house, etc

    And then from other side its abused by wives complaining to police about dowry, sometimes years after marriage... even if there was no dowry, its like divorce court thing of the west.

    Its too mind boggling for me tbh, lol. As a mgtow, I am spared from that social labyrinth.
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    MGTOW is about making no mistakes against gynocentrism.


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